How does HB Woodlawn lottery work?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

Why do you think an admin transfer would be hidden in the lottery?

It would be hidden because they would assign the number to the squeaky wheel parent who is readying a lawsuit. If they had a public process of admin transfer, and there were dozens and dozens, it would be seen as a viable avenue to gain HBW entry, so they keep it hush hush, to effectively claim “admin transfers are very rare” and thus discourage future attempts.

Wow. You sound really uneducated. And unfortunately lack of education breeds conspiracy theories. Admin transfers are not public not because there is some huge cover up but because of student confidentiality. Just like you don't get to see other students' grades or discipline records. But you will not be convinced so I guess go on believing in your fake news. It's sad.

The number of admin transfers is not public

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know that they take kids from each school. I would be curious to know who applies the most, per school. I know some of the schools that serve diverse communities have way fewer applicants. Are those applicants just the white kids? Like, if you go to Hoffman-Boston, you have a way higher chance than if you go to Cardinal.

Too lazy to look it up but there are transfer tables for each option school including HB. So you’ll see cardinal had over 50 lottery for 5ish seats and some far away s arl school have 4 people lottery for 2 spaces.

Exactly. The 3 sets siblings I know come from a high participation lottery (they went to elementary with my kids). They were competing in huge lotteries both times, and somehow they won?

And the parents - very rich tiger parents very involved with the school board (fundraising, steering committees, etc).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

Why do you think an admin transfer would be hidden in the lottery?

It would be hidden because they would assign the number to the squeaky wheel parent who is readying a lawsuit. If they had a public process of admin transfer, and there were dozens and dozens, it would be seen as a viable avenue to gain HBW entry, so they keep it hush hush, to effectively claim “admin transfers are very rare” and thus discourage future attempts.

Wow. You sound really uneducated. And unfortunately lack of education breeds conspiracy theories. Admin transfers are not public not because there is some huge cover up but because of student confidentiality. Just like you don't get to see other students' grades or discipline records. But you will not be convinced so I guess go on believing in your fake news. It's sad.

The number of admin transfers is not public

Yes the number is, not the details.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know that they take kids from each school. I would be curious to know who applies the most, per school. I know some of the schools that serve diverse communities have way fewer applicants. Are those applicants just the white kids? Like, if you go to Hoffman-Boston, you have a way higher chance than if you go to Cardinal.

Too lazy to look it up but there are transfer tables for each option school including HB. So you’ll see cardinal had over 50 lottery for 5ish seats and some far away s arl school have 4 people lottery for 2 spaces.

Exactly. The 3 sets siblings I know come from a high participation lottery (they went to elementary with my kids). They were competing in huge lotteries both times, and somehow they won?

And the parents - very rich tiger parents very involved with the school board (fundraising, steering committees, etc).

chance happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

It's not that simple. Having applied for an admin transfer in ES, it's not easy. I didn't even ask for one school, I asked for any school other than the one my kid was in. During that time, a couple of people sued that school and two families got an admin transfer to other non-lottery schools. In middle or high, I doubt it would happen but if it did, I think the kid would have to try another non lottery school first before moving to a smaller school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know that they take kids from each school. I would be curious to know who applies the most, per school. I know some of the schools that serve diverse communities have way fewer applicants. Are those applicants just the white kids? Like, if you go to Hoffman-Boston, you have a way higher chance than if you go to Cardinal.

Too lazy to look it up but there are transfer tables for each option school including HB. So you’ll see cardinal had over 50 lottery for 5ish seats and some far away s arl school have 4 people lottery for 2 spaces.

Exactly. The 3 sets siblings I know come from a high participation lottery (they went to elementary with my kids). They were competing in huge lotteries both times, and somehow they won?

And the parents - very rich tiger parents very involved with the school board (fundraising, steering committees, etc).

chance happens.

Why are we feeding this troll thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know that they take kids from each school. I would be curious to know who applies the most, per school. I know some of the schools that serve diverse communities have way fewer applicants. Are those applicants just the white kids? Like, if you go to Hoffman-Boston, you have a way higher chance than if you go to Cardinal.

Too lazy to look it up but there are transfer tables for each option school including HB. So you’ll see cardinal had over 50 lottery for 5ish seats and some far away s arl school have 4 people lottery for 2 spaces.

Exactly. The 3 sets siblings I know come from a high participation lottery (they went to elementary with my kids). They were competing in huge lotteries both times, and somehow they won?

And the parents - very rich tiger parents very involved with the school board (fundraising, steering committees, etc).

chance happens.

Why are we feeding this troll thing.

Because the odds are VERY long. And I’m not the only one to the patterns.

Its an easy fix, give people their lottery number before the lottery, run the lottery live, then publish the numbers. The public can verify that student enrollment numbers match the lottery winners and if their is any discrepancy it can go to a lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know that they take kids from each school. I would be curious to know who applies the most, per school. I know some of the schools that serve diverse communities have way fewer applicants. Are those applicants just the white kids? Like, if you go to Hoffman-Boston, you have a way higher chance than if you go to Cardinal.

Too lazy to look it up but there are transfer tables for each option school including HB. So you’ll see cardinal had over 50 lottery for 5ish seats and some far away s arl school have 4 people lottery for 2 spaces.

Exactly. The 3 sets siblings I know come from a high participation lottery (they went to elementary with my kids). They were competing in huge lotteries both times, and somehow they won?

And the parents - very rich tiger parents very involved with the school board (fundraising, steering committees, etc).

chance happens.

Why are we feeding this troll thing.

Because the odds are VERY long. And I’m not the only one to the patterns.

Its an easy fix, give people their lottery number before the lottery, run the lottery live, then publish the numbers. The public can verify that student enrollment numbers match the lottery winners and if their is any discrepancy it can go to a lawsuit.

Lawsuit? Oh puleeze! The entitlement!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

I'm not going to educate you. Educate yourself or stay clueless. IDC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

It's not that simple. Having applied for an admin transfer in ES, it's not easy. I didn't even ask for one school, I asked for any school other than the one my kid was in. During that time, a couple of people sued that school and two families got an admin transfer to other non-lottery schools. In middle or high, I doubt it would happen but if it did, I think the kid would have to try another non lottery school first before moving to a smaller school.

Also, there's an even smaller school than HB. Langston.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

It's not that simple. Having applied for an admin transfer in ES, it's not easy. I didn't even ask for one school, I asked for any school other than the one my kid was in. During that time, a couple of people sued that school and two families got an admin transfer to other non-lottery schools. In middle or high, I doubt it would happen but if it did, I think the kid would have to try another non lottery school first before moving to a smaller school.

Also, there's an even smaller school than HB. Langston.

How does one get into Langston?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

I'm not going to educate you. Educate yourself or stay clueless. IDC.

So I posted my research and thoughtful commentary, and again with the insults. So again, I believe the county hides admin transfers in the opaque lottery process. What a boondoggle, squeaky wheels get private school on taxpayer dime.

I’m guessing this strikes a nerve for you because you took advantage? You got yours, congrats!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

If they did an admin transfer, there would be a paper trail -- hiding it within the lottery, along with the cranky school board members, makes it a "very rare" event or so they claim.

You don’t even know what an admin transfer is.

Administrative placement occurs when the parents build a case showing hardship where the child would benefit from the HBW environment because learning disability, bullying, or other defects present at their neighborhood school, and psychologist specify that a school like HBW is only remedy.

But feel free to educate me if I am misunderstanding, instead of casting baseless insults.

It's not that simple. Having applied for an admin transfer in ES, it's not easy. I didn't even ask for one school, I asked for any school other than the one my kid was in. During that time, a couple of people sued that school and two families got an admin transfer to other non-lottery schools. In middle or high, I doubt it would happen but if it did, I think the kid would have to try another non lottery school first before moving to a smaller school.

Also, there's an even smaller school than HB. Langston.

Nicely done.