Is the US HC system finally toast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

It is a part of your pay package that is taxpayer subsidized. But you probably complain loudly about ACA subsidies. The taxpayer cost of employer provided health insurance is double the cost of the ACA subsidies. And being probably well-compensated, you really should reconsider whether it is ok for the well-compensated to suck off the taxpayer teat but not the poorly compensated. Or are you just one of those folks who shrug your shoulders and say "That's the way the cookie crumbles."?

[Anonymous]

No such thing as good cheap insurance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen an unprecedented number of people say they are going to have to forgo health insurance this year.

I'm one of them. I'm 60 and healthy now but what if I need a knee replacement at some point? Simply letting the subsidies lapse without any other plan in place is folly. Two weeks in trumpeze means not happening any time soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen an unprecedented number of people say they are going to have to forgo health insurance this year.

I'm one of them. I'm 60 and healthy now but what if I need a knee replacement at some point? Simply letting the subsidies lapse without any other plan in place is folly. Two weeks in trumpeze means not happening any time soon.[/quote
I am sure a lifelong boomer who has had artificially low costs for everything and the rest of us younger folks subsidizing you can afford the extra subsidies. Stop trying to get us to pay more to subsidize your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen an unprecedented number of people say they are going to have to forgo health insurance this year.

I'm one of them. I'm 60 and healthy now but what if I need a knee replacement at some point? Simply letting the subsidies lapse without any other plan in place is folly. Two weeks in trumpeze means not happening any time soon.

I am sure a lifelong boomer who has had artificially low costs for everything and the rest of us younger folks subsidizing you can afford the extra subsidies. Stop trying to get us to pay more to subsidize your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen an unprecedented number of people say they are going to have to forgo health insurance this year.

I'm one of them. I'm 60 and healthy now but what if I need a knee replacement at some point? Simply letting the subsidies lapse without any other plan in place is folly. Two weeks in trumpeze means not happening any time soon.

I am sure a lifelong boomer who has had artificially low costs for everything and the rest of us younger folks subsidizing you can afford the extra subsidies. Stop trying to get us to pay more to subsidize your life.

Look! Another lazy, greedy millenial who wants 20 hour works weeks and mandated naps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

Attaching healthcare to employment is one of the problems, especially for the "poors" you disdain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

Attaching healthcare to employment is one of the problems, especially for the "poors" you disdain.

Maybe someone should work ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco solidly proves we need universal healthcare.

It's not that easy in the US to set up, it's just not. It's a HUGE country with a lot of unhealthy people to start with. I could give you 50 reasons why it's near impossible. I'm not suggesting HC reform isn't needed or that I'm opposed to universal healthcare - it's just that the reality of putting in one in the US today is a pipe dream. It would never work.

Our entire lifestyle and beliefs profoundly differ from countries with successful existing universal HC systems. I'm not sure what would work.

Well for one thing, everyone has to have a stake in it. I don't mean a token stake like "oh, I pay ten dollars a year" and 75% of the barrio or hood is on it. Sound racist? I don't GAS.

You want stuff, you start chipping in also not just declaring 2/3 of the U.S. poor and the the other 1/3 have to provide you womb to the tomb benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

Attaching healthcare to employment is one of the problems, especially for the "poors" you disdain.

I do disdain them, because you seek to declare everyone under the sunas poor in the name of compassion and get them in to an alternative system where they can rely on everyone else. It's like a sickness and a crusade with you. No!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

Attaching healthcare to employment is one of the problems, especially for the "poors" you disdain.

I do disdain them, because you seek to declare everyone under the sunas poor in the name of compassion and get them in to an alternative system where they can rely on everyone else. It's like a sickness and a crusade with you. No!

But it is ok for YOU to have taxpayer subsidized healthcare? Is that your position? Good for you, f**k everyone else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People have to be more responsible and save their money to cover paying for health insurance and out of pocket expenses. ACA plans are still pretty reasonable and there are good plans available to most people for $500 to $1,000 per person per month, even without subsidies.

What a terribly tone deaf response. In case you haven't noticed, the cost of everything has been increasing at alarming rates while wages do not. When so many people are living paycheck to paycheck, how exactly do you expect them to have the money to cover a huge increase in healthcare costs?? For example, I have a friend who is a divorced mother of 3. Fortunately her kids are covered on their father's insurance plan. She works full time and gets health insurance through work. Her portion of the premium is increasing by nearly $500/month. She is incredibly frugal, but she doesn't have an extra $500/month so she's going to be forced to drop insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

Attaching healthcare to employment is one of the problems, especially for the "poors" you disdain.

I actually really surprised American businesses don’t fight more for national healthcare because employee health insurance is a major cost for companies. They can make more profit by reducing HC costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with my health insurance, its just part of my pay package when considering a job. If they have more expensive health insurance then I ask for more money or weigh it against another job offer

Also can decide on choosing my spouses if needed.

System is designed find for two working adults, if you are on of the poors or old Medicaid and Medicare is available.

Stop tying to get free or discount anything it doesn't exist.

Attaching healthcare to employment is one of the problems, especially for the "poors" you disdain.

Maybe someone should work ?

DP. I am for full employment, but even if I believe everyone should pull his weight, we should not be leaving people to die depending on their employment status.