Is Einstein getting totally screwed in the boundary and program study proposals?

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Anonymous wrote:Has MCPS provided more info on what the edication magnet will look like? Is this an existing local or regional program they are modeling it after? What is the goal? To have people ready to be education majors in college? To target people who can serve as paraedicators eight after HS? To have people work in daycares right after HS?

Is education program ever a criteria-based magnet program? Based on the discussion shared on another thread titled "What If I Told You The Regional Model Isn’t About Advanced Academics?", I'd think the new education program is a CTE program.

I assume it's a version of the Teacher Academy of Maryland program, which is already offered at Einstein.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/career-readiness/plans/arts-in-teaching/

That’s Einstein’s smallest program, according to staff at the school. They were considering discontinuing it. If no kids in the DCC were picking Einstein for the education program, what makes MCPS think kids from the new region will?

Einstein should get a music magnet, since that’s what Einstein does best. Make Northwood’s performing arts program theatre focused.

BCC has an education pathway with a lab preschool. The education magnet should be there.

And Einstein won’t automatically get more STEM offerings. The school already offers all of the courses on the list of core classes MCPS says they want at all schools. It will be the same as before, only now kids won’t be able to choose a school with more science and math like they can (to a point) now. They’ll have to apply for the 50 or so seats per year available in STEM magnets.

Yes. People need to think through how 8th-graders will think about this. How many 8th graders will choose a different school from their MS friends, with a long bus ride, for a teacher training program?

vs How many would do the above for a rigorous STEM or humanities magnet?

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Anonymous wrote:Also it’s my understanding regional magnets have significant set asides for kids in the host school. So if both criteria based magnets are at BCC it makes it easier for BCC kids to get in (since ~30% spots reserved for them whereas remaining 70% spots have to be split among the other schools in the region).

Specialized magnets for the rich kids, virtual precalc for middle class kids

I heard one ES under Einstein couldn’t even secure a compact math teacher, so the 4th grade compact math class needs to take virtual class with a few other schools (not sure what other ESs are), but this sounds pretty sad.

What are you even talking about? Every school has in-person precalc.

It’s not that the school couldn’t secure a compacted math teacher. It’s that there is no longer funding for a compacted math class that is below the size of a regular class. If there are fewer students who qualify for compacted math than whatever the minimum amount of students needed for a class, they put them in a virtual class with students from other similarly situated schools. I believe this is a direct downstream effect of the CES given the number of students the school sends to the CES and the fact that most if not all of those students would also qualify for compacted math. If MCPS would get rid of the regional CES program and offer the curriculum as an in-school curriculum for all the students who qualify instead of making it a lottery, it would not only be fair to the kids who qualify for the CES but currently don’t have access to it, but it would also solve the problem of stupid things like virtual math.

Yeah... the fact that MCPS has *4th graders* taking virtual math, but not 12th graders can't take MV Calculus virtually is just...?!

Parents and community did not want virtual and had it shut down. MCPS is clear they are not bringing it back. It makes zero sense. Compacted math and MVC should be the minimum at all schools. MCPS insisted all students need to go in person except when it’s convenient for them. No surprise this is happening with no student or parent input given their past behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Has MCPS provided more info on what the edication magnet will look like? Is this an existing local or regional program they are modeling it after? What is the goal? To have people ready to be education majors in college? To target people who can serve as paraedicators eight after HS? To have people work in daycares right after HS?

Is education program ever a criteria-based magnet program? Based on the discussion shared on another thread titled "What If I Told You The Regional Model Isn’t About Advanced Academics?", I'd think the new education program is a CTE program.

I assume it's a version of the Teacher Academy of Maryland program, which is already offered at Einstein.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/career-readiness/plans/arts-in-teaching/

That’s Einstein’s smallest program, according to staff at the school. They were considering discontinuing it. If no kids in the DCC were picking Einstein for the education program, what makes MCPS think kids from the new region will?

Einstein should get a music magnet, since that’s what Einstein does best. Make Northwood’s performing arts program theatre focused.

BCC has an education pathway with a lab preschool. The education magnet should be there.

And Einstein won’t automatically get more STEM offerings. The school already offers all of the courses on the list of core classes MCPS says they want at all schools. It will be the same as before, only now kids won’t be able to choose a school with more science and math like they can (to a point) now. They’ll have to apply for the 50 or so seats per year available in STEM magnets.

Yes. People need to think through how 8th-graders will think about this. How many 8th graders will choose a different school from their MS friends, with a long bus ride, for a teacher training program?

vs How many would do the above for a rigorous STEM or humanities magnet?

Many kids would want both and no reason not to have both. Why should it be all or nothing. These schools have 2-3k students. Have something for all.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like it. Thoughts? What should we do about this?

What’s gonna happen to Einstein?

Boundary study options all pull lower FARMS schools out of Einstein/higher FARMS schools into it and the regional magnet program will pull higher achieving kids into magnets placed at other schools within the region leaving existing programs at Einstein without students and therefore without funding. MCPS is taking a school with a diverse socioeconomic population and good programs, which has been a relative success story, and cutting it off at the knees (and uniquely so among all the rest of the schools at issue). Parents in boundary need to speak up!

Einstein gets no regional program? What about IB, VAPA, or VAC?

Regional IB goes to BCC. Regional performing arts go to Northwood. Einstein keeps regional visual arts only plus education which as I understand it is low interest. BCC also gets humanities magnet. Someone on another thread suggested as a minimum advocating for humanities magnet at Einstein and education at BCC since they have some sort of preschool training piece.

Humanities at einstein is a good idea, and you are right that BCC has long had a preschool on site for early childhood classes that HS students take. I don't know why you'd put Humanities AND IB at the same school -- it is an overlap. Einstein needs a draw to maintain that neighborhood and the quality of education -- and I say that as a BCC parent.

The humanities program would be a better fit for Northwood considering the fact Northwood has 4 academies that are strongly focus on the humanities.

Another reason to do humanities at Northwood would be that there should be a robust set of AP courses wherever the humanities program is-- families who pick the humanities program over the IB program likely will have a preference for AP over IB classes. If Einstein wants to stay as an IB school maybe they could do humanities at Northwood and the criteria-based medical science program at Einstein? Hopefully that program would be similar to the one currently at Wheaton which is popular and draws a lot of smart kids.

Although frankly the Einstein families are getting so screwed over here that if they have a strong preference/consensus around which programs they get, I for one am glad to line up behind them to support it regardless of whether I personally think it makes the most sense.

They don’t ask families what they want. Many want more ap classes. There may not be more ap classes at Northwood.

Northwood enrollment will be increasing significantly, so hopefully additional course offerings would follow from that.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have the same strong offerings at every school. Having speciality programs at different schools is silly if students don’t get school choose and each school doesn’t have equal strong offerings. Taylor and the BOE clearly ditched equity and student needs. How many kids want a teacher academy. They reduced the current program a few years ago. How about a poll asking parents, teachers and students what they want at these schools. People are going to bail from Einstein if they can and either move or go private. It and Kennedy will be the weak links.

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The DCC is what keeps wealthier kids in public schools. DH and I have just discussed upping our 529 contributions so we can afford private if need be.

Having a standardized base of strong offerings at all schools is part of the plan. Funny how most people are not asking questions or focused on that piece.

We don't buy it because MCPS has caveated it with saying they will offer courses "if there is interest" which is a circular way of saying they won't actually offer that strong base or will have it be virtual in the lower income schools, which will lead wealthy families to flee public schools.

The more comfortable families will leave Einstein and the FARM rate will likely rise. The school gained students for its VAPA program, but many academically strong students now choose magnets or lottery into Blair or Wheaton due to Einstein's limited advanced course offerings. The principal claims there's no demand for higher-level classes, but demand is low because the classes aren't offered. Students are often pushed through AB, BC, then Stats, with no alternatives. MCPS offers no virtual high school math options and has no plans to. Students are left with three choices: take what is available, drive their kids to another school, or to Montgomery College for the classes they need. There is no excuse for MCPS not providing enough math to meet graduation requirements. The minimum at each school should be MVC as then students can take Statistics after MVC if they need an extra math class.

DP - I think you’re overstating how many families will leave Einstein (and how many inbounds kids currently choose Blair or Wheaton). There are a lot of highly educated parents here (e.g., Feds and academics with PhDs) who don’t necessarily have the money to shell out for private nor to move. And a lot of us who are willing to work to improve our school, inasmuch as it needs improving. I don’t love the proposed changes, but they’re not untenable with some modifications along the lines of what people have proposed.

If MVC is the minimum, most high schools shouldn’t go much farther than that. It’s *high school*. We’d be better served by pushing the BOE hard on offering robust programs at all schools, i.e., increasing parity, than arguing for super advanced classes.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have the same strong offerings at every school. Having speciality programs at different schools is silly if students don’t get school choose and each school doesn’t have equal strong offerings. Taylor and the BOE clearly ditched equity and student needs. How many kids want a teacher academy. They reduced the current program a few years ago. How about a poll asking parents, teachers and students what they want at these schools. People are going to bail from Einstein if they can and either move or go private. It and Kennedy will be the weak links.

+1

The DCC is what keeps wealthier kids in public schools. DH and I have just discussed upping our 529 contributions so we can afford private if need be.

Having a standardized base of strong offerings at all schools is part of the plan. Funny how most people are not asking questions or focused on that piece.

We don't buy it because MCPS has caveated it with saying they will offer courses "if there is interest" which is a circular way of saying they won't actually offer that strong base or will have it be virtual in the lower income schools, which will lead wealthy families to flee public schools.

The more comfortable families will leave Einstein and the FARM rate will likely rise. The school gained students for its VAPA program, but many academically strong students now choose magnets or lottery into Blair or Wheaton due to Einstein's limited advanced course offerings. The principal claims there's no demand for higher-level classes, but demand is low because the classes aren't offered. Students are often pushed through AB, BC, then Stats, with no alternatives. MCPS offers no virtual high school math options and has no plans to. Students are left with three choices: take what is available, drive their kids to another school, or to Montgomery College for the classes they need. There is no excuse for MCPS not providing enough math to meet graduation requirements. The minimum at each school should be MVC as then students can take Statistics after MVC if they need an extra math class.

DP - I think you’re overstating how many families will leave Einstein (and how many inbounds kids currently choose Blair or Wheaton). There are a lot of highly educated parents here (e.g., Feds and academics with PhDs) who don’t necessarily have the money to shell out for private nor to move. And a lot of us who are willing to work to improve our school, inasmuch as it needs improving. I don’t love the proposed changes, but they’re not untenable with some modifications along the lines of what people have proposed.

If MVC is the minimum, most high schools shouldn’t go much farther than that. It’s *high school*. We’d be better served by pushing the BOE hard on offering robust programs at all schools, i.e., increasing parity, than arguing for super advanced classes.

No, MCPS never promised MVC to be one standard offering across all local HSs. They promised AP Stat and AP Calc (so even Calc AB satisfies their definition).

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Anonymous wrote:They should have the same strong offerings at every school. Having speciality programs at different schools is silly if students don’t get school choose and each school doesn’t have equal strong offerings. Taylor and the BOE clearly ditched equity and student needs. How many kids want a teacher academy. They reduced the current program a few years ago. How about a poll asking parents, teachers and students what they want at these schools. People are going to bail from Einstein if they can and either move or go private. It and Kennedy will be the weak links.

+1

The DCC is what keeps wealthier kids in public schools. DH and I have just discussed upping our 529 contributions so we can afford private if need be.

Having a standardized base of strong offerings at all schools is part of the plan. Funny how most people are not asking questions or focused on that piece.

We don't buy it because MCPS has caveated it with saying they will offer courses "if there is interest" which is a circular way of saying they won't actually offer that strong base or will have it be virtual in the lower income schools, which will lead wealthy families to flee public schools.

The more comfortable families will leave Einstein and the FARM rate will likely rise. The school gained students for its VAPA program, but many academically strong students now choose magnets or lottery into Blair or Wheaton due to Einstein's limited advanced course offerings. The principal claims there's no demand for higher-level classes, but demand is low because the classes aren't offered. Students are often pushed through AB, BC, then Stats, with no alternatives. MCPS offers no virtual high school math options and has no plans to. Students are left with three choices: take what is available, drive their kids to another school, or to Montgomery College for the classes they need. There is no excuse for MCPS not providing enough math to meet graduation requirements. The minimum at each school should be MVC as then students can take Statistics after MVC if they need an extra math class.

DP - I think you’re overstating how many families will leave Einstein (and how many inbounds kids currently choose Blair or Wheaton). There are a lot of highly educated parents here (e.g., Feds and academics with PhDs) who don’t necessarily have the money to shell out for private nor to move. And a lot of us who are willing to work to improve our school, inasmuch as it needs improving. I don’t love the proposed changes, but they’re not untenable with some modifications along the lines of what people have proposed.

If MVC is the minimum, most high schools shouldn’t go much farther than that. It’s *high school*. We’d be better served by pushing the BOE hard on offering robust programs at all schools, i.e., increasing parity, than arguing for super advanced classes.

There are a bunch of $1 million+ houses being sold in the Einstein area. If MCPS isn't offering a decent set of courses for smart (but not "gifted") college bound kids, some of those students will certainly leave the system. Not all of them, but it creates a vicious cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have the same strong offerings at every school. Having speciality programs at different schools is silly if students don’t get school choose and each school doesn’t have equal strong offerings. Taylor and the BOE clearly ditched equity and student needs. How many kids want a teacher academy. They reduced the current program a few years ago. How about a poll asking parents, teachers and students what they want at these schools. People are going to bail from Einstein if they can and either move or go private. It and Kennedy will be the weak links.

+1

The DCC is what keeps wealthier kids in public schools. DH and I have just discussed upping our 529 contributions so we can afford private if need be.

Having a standardized base of strong offerings at all schools is part of the plan. Funny how most people are not asking questions or focused on that piece.

We don't buy it because MCPS has caveated it with saying they will offer courses "if there is interest" which is a circular way of saying they won't actually offer that strong base or will have it be virtual in the lower income schools, which will lead wealthy families to flee public schools.

The more comfortable families will leave Einstein and the FARM rate will likely rise. The school gained students for its VAPA program, but many academically strong students now choose magnets or lottery into Blair or Wheaton due to Einstein's limited advanced course offerings. The principal claims there's no demand for higher-level classes, but demand is low because the classes aren't offered. Students are often pushed through AB, BC, then Stats, with no alternatives. MCPS offers no virtual high school math options and has no plans to. Students are left with three choices: take what is available, drive their kids to another school, or to Montgomery College for the classes they need. There is no excuse for MCPS not providing enough math to meet graduation requirements. The minimum at each school should be MVC as then students can take Statistics after MVC if they need an extra math class.

DP - I think you’re overstating how many families will leave Einstein (and how many inbounds kids currently choose Blair or Wheaton). There are a lot of highly educated parents here (e.g., Feds and academics with PhDs) who don’t necessarily have the money to shell out for private nor to move. And a lot of us who are willing to work to improve our school, inasmuch as it needs improving. I don’t love the proposed changes, but they’re not untenable with some modifications along the lines of what people have proposed.

If MVC is the minimum, most high schools shouldn’t go much farther than that. It’s *high school*. We’d be better served by pushing the BOE hard on offering robust programs at all schools, i.e., increasing parity, than arguing for super advanced classes.

I think you are underestimating the money in this area. Most people like it as its lovely, more affordable communities with much more of a family feel. But, for us, academics come first and we will pull our youngest if this happens.

What do you consider robust programs? That includes advanced offerings at all schools to me. Or, school choice so kids can get their needs met at others schools if their home school doesn't offer it.

The draw to Einstein was the arts. Over the years, Einstein has had a reduction in AP and other classes. It wasn't always this way.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have the same strong offerings at every school. Having speciality programs at different schools is silly if students don’t get school choose and each school doesn’t have equal strong offerings. Taylor and the BOE clearly ditched equity and student needs. How many kids want a teacher academy. They reduced the current program a few years ago. How about a poll asking parents, teachers and students what they want at these schools. People are going to bail from Einstein if they can and either move or go private. It and Kennedy will be the weak links.

+1

The DCC is what keeps wealthier kids in public schools. DH and I have just discussed upping our 529 contributions so we can afford private if need be.

Having a standardized base of strong offerings at all schools is part of the plan. Funny how most people are not asking questions or focused on that piece.

We don't buy it because MCPS has caveated it with saying they will offer courses "if there is interest" which is a circular way of saying they won't actually offer that strong base or will have it be virtual in the lower income schools, which will lead wealthy families to flee public schools.

The more comfortable families will leave Einstein and the FARM rate will likely rise. The school gained students for its VAPA program, but many academically strong students now choose magnets or lottery into Blair or Wheaton due to Einstein's limited advanced course offerings. The principal claims there's no demand for higher-level classes, but demand is low because the classes aren't offered. Students are often pushed through AB, BC, then Stats, with no alternatives. MCPS offers no virtual high school math options and has no plans to. Students are left with three choices: take what is available, drive their kids to another school, or to Montgomery College for the classes they need. There is no excuse for MCPS not providing enough math to meet graduation requirements. The minimum at each school should be MVC as then students can take Statistics after MVC if they need an extra math class.

DP - I think you’re overstating how many families will leave Einstein (and how many inbounds kids currently choose Blair or Wheaton). There are a lot of highly educated parents here (e.g., Feds and academics with PhDs) who don’t necessarily have the money to shell out for private nor to move. And a lot of us who are willing to work to improve our school, inasmuch as it needs improving. I don’t love the proposed changes, but they’re not untenable with some modifications along the lines of what people have proposed.

If MVC is the minimum, most high schools shouldn’t go much farther than that. It’s *high school*. We’d be better served by pushing the BOE hard on offering robust programs at all schools, i.e., increasing parity, than arguing for super advanced classes.

There are a bunch of $1 million+ houses being sold in the Einstein area. If MCPS isn't offering a decent set of courses for smart (but not "gifted") college bound kids, some of those students will certainly leave the system. Not all of them, but it creates a vicious cycle.

Many of the rebuilds are going for 1-2 million. Minimum house now is $550-600K for a 800 square foot one level fixer upper.

Many of the kids go to Blair or Wheaton who are more advanced.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have the same strong offerings at every school. Having speciality programs at different schools is silly if students don’t get school choose and each school doesn’t have equal strong offerings. Taylor and the BOE clearly ditched equity and student needs. How many kids want a teacher academy. They reduced the current program a few years ago. How about a poll asking parents, teachers and students what they want at these schools. People are going to bail from Einstein if they can and either move or go private. It and Kennedy will be the weak links.

+1

The DCC is what keeps wealthier kids in public schools. DH and I have just discussed upping our 529 contributions so we can afford private if need be.

Having a standardized base of strong offerings at all schools is part of the plan. Funny how most people are not asking questions or focused on that piece.

We don't buy it because MCPS has caveated it with saying they will offer courses "if there is interest" which is a circular way of saying they won't actually offer that strong base or will have it be virtual in the lower income schools, which will lead wealthy families to flee public schools.

The more comfortable families will leave Einstein and the FARM rate will likely rise. The school gained students for its VAPA program, but many academically strong students now choose magnets or lottery into Blair or Wheaton due to Einstein's limited advanced course offerings. The principal claims there's no demand for higher-level classes, but demand is low because the classes aren't offered. Students are often pushed through AB, BC, then Stats, with no alternatives. MCPS offers no virtual high school math options and has no plans to. Students are left with three choices: take what is available, drive their kids to another school, or to Montgomery College for the classes they need. There is no excuse for MCPS not providing enough math to meet graduation requirements. The minimum at each school should be MVC as then students can take Statistics after MVC if they need an extra math class.

DP - I think you’re overstating how many families will leave Einstein (and how many inbounds kids currently choose Blair or Wheaton). There are a lot of highly educated parents here (e.g., Feds and academics with PhDs) who don’t necessarily have the money to shell out for private nor to move. And a lot of us who are willing to work to improve our school, inasmuch as it needs improving. I don’t love the proposed changes, but they’re not untenable with some modifications along the lines of what people have proposed.

If MVC is the minimum, most high schools shouldn’t go much farther than that. It’s *high school*. We’d be better served by pushing the BOE hard on offering robust programs at all schools, i.e., increasing parity, than arguing for super advanced classes.

No, MCPS never promised MVC to be one standard offering across all local HSs. They promised AP Stat and AP Calc (so even Calc AB satisfies their definition).

They are saying "if" and everyoen understands that MCPS isn't offering it at all schools. Their equity is a farce.

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What is the most effective way to voice our concerns and provide feedback? It is not immediately obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the most effective way to voice our concerns and provide feedback? It is not immediately obvious.

That is the problem. MCPS wants to shake everything up in a brief amount of time without adequate public discourse. MCCPTA will be voting a resolution to slow this process so all voices can be heard.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the most effective way to voice our concerns and provide feedback? It is not immediately obvious.

That is the problem. MCPS wants to shake everything up in a brief amount of time without adequate public discourse. MCCPTA will be voting a resolution to slow this process so all voices can be heard.

Attend the County Council's Education and Culture Committee session tomorrow from 1:30-4:30pm at 100 Maryland Avenue in Rockville in the 3rd Floor Hearing Room and bring signs/t shirts from your school if you have one

Here is the link to the agenda for this public meeting. The third item relates to the regional program proposal. https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/Gener...d=169&event_id=16606

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Anonymous wrote:What is the most effective way to voice our concerns and provide feedback? It is not immediately obvious.

That is the problem. MCPS wants to shake everything up in a brief amount of time without adequate public discourse. MCCPTA will be voting a resolution to slow this process so all voices can be heard.

Attend the County Council's Education and Culture Committee session tomorrow from 1:30-4:30pm at 100 Maryland Avenue in Rockville in the 3rd Floor Hearing Room and bring signs/t shirts from your school if you have one

Here is the link to the agenda for this public meeting. The third item relates to the regional program proposal. https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/Gener...d=169&event_id=16606

Oops, bad link, here it is: https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=16606

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Anonymous wrote:We’re in-bounds for Einstein and have kids in middle and elementary currently.

We need to speak up about the unfairness of these proposed changes. There are a lot of well-educated, articulate parents who could make a strong case why we need different options. I’ve already responded to the survey as such.

What else? Testimony to the BOE? Get media attention on the issue? I don’t know that it will ultimately change things, but I think we have to try hard.

Attend the County Council's Education and Culture Committee session tomorrow from 1:30-4:30pm at 100 Maryland Avenue in Rockville in the 3rd Floor Hearing Room and bring signs

Here is the link to the agenda for this public meeting occurring tomorrow. The third item relates to the regional program proposal https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=16606

Thanks for sharing! I just quickly went through the document attached to the 3rd item using keyword search, and didn't find their plan for middle school program layout. Didn't they promise to share their plan in Oct. meeting?

So this is a County Council meeting, not a BOE meeting. I assume the October meeting you are referring to is a BOE meeting (not sure which one)

PP here. Thanks for your clarification and I did mix it up with the Oct. BOE meeting. Looks like the council meeting will be broadcasting on youtube? I'll make sure to watch