Which among WASP would you choose to ED and why?

[Anonymous]

I’m a WASP grad. My bosses have been graduates of lesser known LAC’s, state flagships and regional universities. They are insiders with respect to the local professional network. I value my WASP degree and my experience there but there’s big big universe of other opportunities and launching pads out there.

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Anonymous wrote:They all have super low acceptance rates, I get it! But you have to at least take a shot to have a chance. If you’re in the fortunate position to ED and full pay, which among these four would you choose to ED? Please share rationale: e.g. which one you like most for your DC (and why), ED odds, etc.

If you’ve BTDT and have additional ED vs ED2 vs RD strategy for these schools, that’s even better. TIA

Why is it always wasp on this forum. Wasp this, wasp that. There are so many "wasp" out there. Create your own frickin acronym of colleges

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Anonymous wrote:you guys are missing the point - for the ivy or bust striver-athletes and their ivy or bust parents, D3 is a difficult pill to swallow - and the Williams name can ease that pain, and is really the only acceptable D3 option for this striver class - along with trumpeting to everyone they know that “Williams has been the #1 ranked liberal arts school for x years”. It’s not about Amherst or Pomona being as good or better (which I believe), it’s solely about the name with this class of folks

You’re delusional. The majority of people have no idea that Williams isn’t a community college somewhere in New England. If you’re in it for the name, you go somewhere else.

Your vote doesn't count and neither does the majority. You are one of the people who just doesn't get it. The people who matter know and those who don't know really don't matter.

Keep telling yourself that to justify dishing out $320K+ for a school no one has even heard of. Can you get any more generic than "Williams"? Maybe "Jones"? You're better off going to Penn State. People have heard of that.

Sure thing….Might want to ask yourself why the top SLACs have higher acceptance rates to med school, law schools, top grad programs, IB, MBB, etc. than virtually any schools outside of HYPSM.

I'm not doubting that these colleges produce graduates who go on to attend prestigious grad schools and do okay in life. That's not my point. My point is that if you're a prestige whore and are interested in impressing people, don't go to Williams. Maybe Amherst is better because people might think it's UMass. Bowdoin? 99% of people can't even pronounce it. The Ivies, Duke, Standford, MIT--people know you're smart. Williams? People nod their head but have no idea that it's a decent school (which it most certainly is).

People who matter know you are smart. It is kind of a good way of sorting people.

Ahhh, the tired "people who matter" argument. Sorry you think that 99% of the people who live in this country don't matter.

NP - sadly, its the 1 percenters that truly matter in this society

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Anonymous wrote:you guys are missing the point - for the ivy or bust striver-athletes and their ivy or bust parents, D3 is a difficult pill to swallow - and the Williams name can ease that pain, and is really the only acceptable D3 option for this striver class - along with trumpeting to everyone they know that “Williams has been the #1 ranked liberal arts school for x years”. It’s not about Amherst or Pomona being as good or better (which I believe), it’s solely about the name with this class of folks

You’re delusional. The majority of people have no idea that Williams isn’t a community college somewhere in New England. If you’re in it for the name, you go somewhere else.

Your vote doesn't count and neither does the majority. You are one of the people who just doesn't get it. The people who matter know and those who don't know really don't matter.

Keep telling yourself that to justify dishing out $320K+ for a school no one has even heard of. Can you get any more generic than "Williams"? Maybe "Jones"? You're better off going to Penn State. People have heard of that.

Sure thing….Might want to ask yourself why the top SLACs have higher acceptance rates to med school, law schools, top grad programs, IB, MBB, etc. than virtually any schools outside of HYPSM.

I'm not doubting that these colleges produce graduates who go on to attend prestigious grad schools and do okay in life. That's not my point. My point is that if you're a prestige whore and are interested in impressing people, don't go to Williams. Maybe Amherst is better because people might think it's UMass. Bowdoin? 99% of people can't even pronounce it. The Ivies, Duke, Standford, MIT--people know you're smart. Williams? People nod their head but have no idea that it's a decent school (which it most certainly is).

People who matter know you are smart. It is kind of a good way of sorting people.

Ahhh, the tired "people who matter" argument. Sorry you think that 99% of the people who live in this country don't matter.

you're delusional if you think only 1% of Americans know williams.

True- less than 1% of Americans know of Williams.

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Anonymous wrote:you guys are missing the point - for the ivy or bust striver-athletes and their ivy or bust parents, D3 is a difficult pill to swallow - and the Williams name can ease that pain, and is really the only acceptable D3 option for this striver class - along with trumpeting to everyone they know that “Williams has been the #1 ranked liberal arts school for x years”. It’s not about Amherst or Pomona being as good or better (which I believe), it’s solely about the name with this class of folks

You’re delusional. The majority of people have no idea that Williams isn’t a community college somewhere in New England. If you’re in it for the name, you go somewhere else.

Your vote doesn't count and neither does the majority. You are one of the people who just doesn't get it. The people who matter know and those who don't know really don't matter.

Keep telling yourself that to justify dishing out $320K+ for a school no one has even heard of. Can you get any more generic than "Williams"? Maybe "Jones"? You're better off going to Penn State. People have heard of that.

Sure thing….Might want to ask yourself why the top SLACs have higher acceptance rates to med school, law schools, top grad programs, IB, MBB, etc. than virtually any schools outside of HYPSM.

I'm not doubting that these colleges produce graduates who go on to attend prestigious grad schools and do okay in life. That's not my point. My point is that if you're a prestige whore and are interested in impressing people, don't go to Williams. Maybe Amherst is better because people might think it's UMass. Bowdoin? 99% of people can't even pronounce it. The Ivies, Duke, Standford, MIT--people know you're smart. Williams? People nod their head but have no idea that it's a decent school (which it most certainly is).

People who matter know you are smart. It is kind of a good way of sorting people.

Ahhh, the tired "people who matter" argument. Sorry you think that 99% of the people who live in this country don't matter.

NP - sadly, its the 1 percenters that truly matter in this society

It is unfortunate, because WASP has the money to provide full rides and incredible opportunities to low income students.
For the middle and upper-middle class parents who have no clue what WASP refers to, the people who are making important hiring and promoting decisions in your WASP alum's career will know. There is also no graduate school admissions officer at any reputable university who is ignorant of the value of the education that WASP offers.

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PAWS would be the order my kid would place them. Prefer the California weather.

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Anonymous wrote:you guys are missing the point - for the ivy or bust striver-athletes and their ivy or bust parents, D3 is a difficult pill to swallow - and the Williams name can ease that pain, and is really the only acceptable D3 option for this striver class - along with trumpeting to everyone they know that “Williams has been the #1 ranked liberal arts school for x years”. It’s not about Amherst or Pomona being as good or better (which I believe), it’s solely about the name with this class of folks

Agree that Pomona attracts few prestige seeking students because it's not that well known. But surprised that there is a big difference between Williams and Amherst. I always thought those were the two top names for LACs and the schools are similar.

There is no difference between any of the top 10 or so SLACs, none. They are all great schools and kids should choose based on fit. This whole WASP argument is just ongoing DCUM nonsense to give insecure parents something to argue about, same as HYPSM nonsense.

There is no difference between HYPSM and other national unis? And WAsP is imaginary. Er, OK. Hope you are not advising applicants.

No difference between HYPSM and the rest of the T20. And, no difference between WASP and the other half dozen SLACs with identical student profiles.

And, no difference between WASP between the T20 and the top SLACs except that you will receive a superior undergraduate education at the SLACs.

If you believe otherwise you are part of the problem.

If you are an applicant applying to these schools, there is a difference. If you believe otherwise, have fun in the rejection pile. And it is the whole process that is undermined by your stance: ill-advised SCEA app means pissed away ED opportunities, then a more competitive ED2 round, then — oops — end up at a safety school.

But I guess that’s OK.

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Amherst is small than Williams w higher % of athletes

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The Ivies, Duke and Stanford have the national cache or wow factor. Amherst, Williams, Swartmore, and Bowdoin definitely don’t. This is not the 1960’s of Mad Men era, the country is less Northeast centric. Excluding Williams kids from Colgate, Holy Cross, and Davidson place better in corporate America. Schools like Wellesley, Wesleyan, Swarthmore, Haverford, Vassar underperform- too woke. As a grad of 2 Ivies, acknowledge big SEC schools are benefiting from the economic and population migration to the South including Texas.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ivies, Duke and Stanford have the national cache or wow factor. Amherst, Williams, Swartmore, and Bowdoin definitely don’t. This is not the 1960’s of Mad Men era, the country is less Northeast centric. Excluding Williams kids from Colgate, Holy Cross, and Davidson place better in corporate America. Schools like Wellesley, Wesleyan, Swarthmore, Haverford, Vassar underperform- too woke. As a grad of 2 Ivies, acknowledge big SEC schools are benefiting from the economic and population migration to the South including Texas.

dont listen to anyone on this forum anymore.

[Anonymous]

SEC schools are red hot. That conference’s management team has to be a new HBS case study on marketing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies, Duke and Stanford have the national cache or wow factor. Amherst, Williams, Swartmore, and Bowdoin definitely don’t. This is not the 1960’s of Mad Men era, the country is less Northeast centric. Excluding Williams kids from Colgate, Holy Cross, and Davidson place better in corporate America. Schools like Wellesley, Wesleyan, Swarthmore, Haverford, Vassar underperform- too woke. As a grad of 2 Ivies, acknowledge big SEC schools are benefiting from the economic and population migration to the South including Texas.

Who exactly is interested in "wow-ing" the general public? Whom do you need to impress and why? Parents who send their kids to WASP schools are clearly running around in different circles and have different priorities than you. What impresses people in those circles is not going to impress people in yours.

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Swarthmore hasn’t been relevant since the Mike Dukakis tank political ads

[Anonymous]

My Ivy circles trump those WASP circles 8 days a week!

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Anonymous wrote:The Ivies, Duke and Stanford have the national cache or wow factor. Amherst, Williams, Swartmore, and Bowdoin definitely don’t. This is not the 1960’s of Mad Men era, the country is less Northeast centric. Excluding Williams kids from Colgate, Holy Cross, and Davidson place better in corporate America. Schools like Wellesley, Wesleyan, Swarthmore, Haverford, Vassar underperform- too woke. As a grad of 2 Ivies, acknowledge big SEC schools are benefiting from the economic and population migration to the South including Texas.

Who exactly is interested in "wow-ing" the general public? Whom do you need to impress and why? Parents who send their kids to WASP schools are clearly running around in different circles and have different priorities than you. What impresses people in those circles is not going to impress people in yours.

Sound like the OP is interested in wowing people.