Integrated Math roll out?

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Anonymous wrote:What does this math pathway change mean for the old advice that said you should strive to have your kid taking Algebra 1 by 8th grade.

I have a 7th grader so I’m inclined to not push for algebra 1 next year, since by 9th grade she’ll be in the next integrated math class?

What class is your 7th grader in this year? AMP7+? I am not sure you would have an option not to have her take A1 next year. And personally, I would not want to be in year 1 of the integrated math rollout. It's going to be rough. I'd therefore push to have my kid take A1 next year if I were you, OP.

The class is just called "Grade 7 Math."

So my thought is to just keep her in "Grade 8 Math," rather than pushing her to Algebra 1 next year, only for her to have to take integrated algebra again her freshman year of high school. She is on grade level standards from a MAP-M perspective, but she's far stronger in reading/writing. And I have to push her a lot with math.

If she's in grade 7 math, there is no option for her to go A1 next year that I know of. A1 presumes you have gotten through 8th grade standards. She would struggle in A1 next year.

I didn’t realize that. I had a previous child take Algebra in 8th grade without doing compact math, so I’m not sure how that happened if grade 8 math was a prerequisite….

While skipping is not the norm, evaluation & alternate placement can/does happen. For example, a few not in compacted math get recommended for PreAlgebra (not all choose to do so). The same can happen at other times, though this elementary/middle adjustment may be more common than in other grades due to the universal review for the magnet MS lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven’t read every post but chiming in to share my with experience:

My youngest is in 5th grade at one of the 8 ES in the MSMC. My kid is in their second year of compacted math and at fall conferences their math teacher said “I have no doubt they will take AP calculus and it will be in the 10th grade”. Unfortunately, that limits us to ONE HS in the DCC. Then we have to worry about the MS math pathways which are a shtshow. The ES math teacher said “every MS has a different course they consider to be advanced math. They only ask us if the kid was in compacted math and if they are ready for advanced math”.

MCPS created this inequity and they need to fix it!

What the teacher said is not accurate. For 6th grade, math is standard across the county:
- On level is Math 6
- Somewhat accelerated is AMP Math 6+, which covers math 6 and half of math 7.
- Most accelerated is Prealgebra, which covers math 7 and 8 standards.

Kids in compacted math either go onto 6+ or Prealgebra, depending on how they do. Kids in regular grade 5 math either go onto grade 6 or grade 6+.

That poster has no idea what they're talking about. Besides what you mentioned, they're talking about an 8-school MSMC (it's three schools), talking about the DCC as if it's going to exist in 4 years (it almost certainly won't), and acting like there is one only HS in the DCC where you can take AP Calc.

There are 8 Elem schools that feed into the MSMC. The MSMC plus other MS feed into DCC HS. I have an older kid at Einstein and I know they aren’t adding AP Science or MVC in the program study.

My 5th grader is def going to a different HS due to these regions. I don’t trust MCPS will actually allow all interested kids to move to the HS within their region that offers the classes they want/need. They could run the numbers now, based on how many kids within each region are currently in compacted math to see how many kids will need these upper math classes in HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven’t read every post but chiming in to share my with experience:

My youngest is in 5th grade at one of the 8 ES in the MSMC. My kid is in their second year of compacted math and at fall conferences their math teacher said “I have no doubt they will take AP calculus and it will be in the 10th grade”. Unfortunately, that limits us to ONE HS in the DCC. Then we have to worry about the MS math pathways which are a shtshow. The ES math teacher said “every MS has a different course they consider to be advanced math. They only ask us if the kid was in compacted math and if they are ready for advanced math”.

MCPS created this inequity and they need to fix it!

What the teacher said is not accurate. For 6th grade, math is standard across the county:
- On level is Math 6
- Somewhat accelerated is AMP Math 6+, which covers math 6 and half of math 7.
- Most accelerated is Prealgebra, which covers math 7 and 8 standards.

Kids in compacted math either go onto 6+ or Prealgebra, depending on how they do. Kids in regular grade 5 math either go onto grade 6 or grade 6+.

That poster has no idea what they're talking about. Besides what you mentioned, they're talking about an 8-school MSMC (it's three schools), talking about the DCC as if it's going to exist in 4 years (it almost certainly won't), and acting like there is one only HS in the DCC where you can take AP Calc.

There are 8 Elem schools that feed into the MSMC. The MSMC plus other MS feed into DCC HS. I have an older kid at Einstein and I know they aren’t adding AP Science or MVC in the program study.

My 5th grader is def going to a different HS due to these regions. I don’t trust MCPS will actually allow all interested kids to move to the HS within their region that offers the classes they want/need. They could run the numbers now, based on how many kids within each region are currently in compacted math to see how many kids will need these upper math classes in HS.

No, there are 3 schools that make up the middle school magnet consortium, and then any other student in Montgomery County can apply to be in a lottery for one of the remaining spots.

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Anonymous wrote:What does this math pathway change mean for the old advice that said you should strive to have your kid taking Algebra 1 by 8th grade.

I have a 7th grader so I’m inclined to not push for algebra 1 next year, since by 9th grade she’ll be in the next integrated math class?

What class is your 7th grader in this year? AMP7+? I am not sure you would have an option not to have her take A1 next year. And personally, I would not want to be in year 1 of the integrated math rollout. It's going to be rough. I'd therefore push to have my kid take A1 next year if I were you, OP.

The class is just called "Grade 7 Math."

So my thought is to just keep her in "Grade 8 Math," rather than pushing her to Algebra 1 next year, only for her to have to take integrated algebra again her freshman year of high school. She is on grade level standards from a MAP-M perspective, but she's far stronger in reading/writing. And I have to push her a lot with math.

If she's in grade 7 math, there is no option for her to go A1 next year that I know of. A1 presumes you have gotten through 8th grade standards. She would struggle in A1 next year.

I didn’t realize that. I had a previous child take Algebra in 8th grade without doing compact math, so I’m not sure how that happened if grade 8 math was a prerequisite….

You can do that by taking AMP6+ in 6th grade and AMP7+ in 7th grade. That compacts the 6-8 standards into 2 years, so kids who don't do compacted math can still take algebra 1 in 8th. (Those who take compacted math usually take algebra 1 in 7th.)