Five dead in Midtown NYC killing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is some misinformation in this thread.

1. he was NOT "strolling down the street" with a gun. He parked his BMW right outside the building and crossed the PLAZA into the building. In the picture of him you'll see there are no people near him. The Plaza is slightly elevated and the way it is constructed, people walking down Park Avenue at roughly a 90 degree angle about 2 feet lower than Plaza level were unlikely to notice. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/28/us/video/park-avenue-new-york-city-shooting-mccabe-digvid (I tried to embed a photo but it didn't work.) The way the bank juts out cuts off the view from most of Park Avenue. (There's a bank at plaza level marked by the red signs in the video.It blocks the view of the plaza from people on Park Ave walking south.)

2. CNN reported that the gunman was "possibly white" because that it what THE POLICE'S initial report said. They also said he was "possibly Middle Eastern." (That's why a guy outside wearing a shirt with a pro Palestinian message found himself body slammed by several police officers onto the pavement.) CNN only mimicked what the police said.

3. The cop who died was off duty filling a paid detail. He WAS security. Poor guy worked in the Bronx; this gig must have seemed like easy money to him. THe gunman killed him and shot another guard. No word yet as to whether the guard was killed. He probably was.

4. I have no idea what the law re carrying an assault weapon in NYC is, but be aware that NYC has MUCH tougher gun laws than NY State does, so the statute quoted in this thread is irrelevant. Unfortunately, this Supreme Court held 6 to 3 that our gun law was unconstitutional and it was watered down. It is still tougher than the rest of the state.

5. In NYC, the gunman could NOT have obtained a gun permit. Blame Nevada, not NY, for the fact that a person with a history of mental health issues had no trouble getting a concealed carry permit. It's not relevant anyway since the gun wasn't concealed. It is EXTREMELY unlikely the gun was purchased in NYC.

Thanks for clarifying this. I live in NYC and based on the picture, didn't seem like that many people would see him in Midtown on a summer evening after most people have left for the day and he parked his car and walked over a small distance.

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14:05 aren't there NYPD stolling each block? Wouldn't *someone* have seen him before he entered the building or right when he exited his car with a long gun?

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Anonymous wrote:TBI + access to an AR-15 = this. Nobody should be allowed access to these types of firearms.

M4 assault rifle being reported

He strutted confidently down the street with the gun in full view. And people just acted like there was nothing to see there. What’s wrong with New Yorkers?

Culture not just in NYC is to: mind your own business. Maybe that should change, just maybe.

I would have thought it was a costume. It was not too far off from the theater district.

The actual assault style long rifle? Maybe if one didn't know what a rifle looked like??

Pray tell, what is an “assault style” rifle? A rifle is a rifle. What makes one “assault style?” Be specific.

An assault rifle or assault style rifle or whatever - a rifle, any rifle, period - is only good for slaughtering mass numbers of people as quickly as possible, with a hail of indiscriminate bullets. They don’t even need to be aimed carefully because they can put out up to 900 bullets per minute. In the 3-5 minutes duration of the average mass shooting, that means possibly 2,700-4,500 bullets could be fired.


They are killing machines. Only the police should have them.

Even a belt-fed machine gun can't do that.

[Anonymous]

I've seen plenty of people open carry in NYC. Frankly I wouldn't have been too concerned, but I also would not stick around.

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Did they interview any of this guy's family members? Did he leave a manifesto? Tell anyone where he was going? He is similar to Luigi's age. What's happening to young men born before Y2K?

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Anonymous wrote:Did they interview any of this guy's family members? Did he leave a manifesto? Tell anyone where he was going? He is similar to Luigi's age. What's happening to young men born before Y2K?

26 age when they get off their parents' health insurance. Independent??

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Anonymous wrote:14:05 aren't there NYPD stolling each block? Wouldn't *someone* have seen him before he entered the building or right when he exited his car with a long gun?

You must not live here, many blocks without any police presence. I imagine someone might have seen him but he walked a very short distance and again it's summer when many people have left the city for summer and it's mainly random tourists who might not be paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Wow. He had two episodes of involuntarily hospitalizations for mental illness. Suicidal?

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Anonymous wrote:Did they interview any of this guy's family members? Did he leave a manifesto? Tell anyone where he was going? He is similar to Luigi's age. What's happening to young men born before Y2K?

Wokeness is trying its best to neuter our men, as in “toxic masculinity”. Wokeness wants women to be men. Wokeness aims to crush civilization as we know it.

Think about it.

And all that is what made a football player mad at the NFL for promoting football? What color is the sky in your world?

Don’t be ridiculous. I responded to the poster asking what’s happening to our young men. What’s your response to that question?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did they interview any of this guy's family members? Did he leave a manifesto? Tell anyone where he was going? He is similar to Luigi's age. What's happening to young men born before Y2K?

Wokeness is trying its best to neuter our men, as in “toxic masculinity”. Wokeness wants women to be men. Wokeness aims to crush civilization as we know it.

Think about it.

And all that is what made a football player mad at the NFL for promoting football? What color is the sky in your world?

Don’t be ridiculous. I responded to the poster asking what’s happening to our young men. What’s your response to that question?

Young men are all turning into these violent, incels.

Watch the Netflix series Adolescence to see what young men have become!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TBI + access to an AR-15 = this. Nobody should be allowed access to these types of firearms.

M4 assault rifle being reported

He strutted confidently down the street with the gun in full view. And people just acted like there was nothing to see there. What’s wrong with New Yorkers?

Culture not just in NYC is to: mind your own business. Maybe that should change, just maybe.

I would have thought it was a costume. It was not too far off from the theater district.

The actual assault style long rifle? Maybe if one didn't know what a rifle looked like??

Pray tell, what is an “assault style” rifle? A rifle is a rifle. What makes one “assault style?” Be specific.

An assault rifle or assault style rifle or whatever - a rifle, any rifle, period - is only good for slaughtering mass numbers of people as quickly as possible, with a hail of indiscriminate bullets. They don’t even need to be aimed carefully because they can put out up to 900 bullets per minute. In the 3-5 minutes duration of the average mass shooting, that means possibly 2,700-4,500 bullets could be fired.


They are killing machines. Only the police should have them.

So what mass numbers of people are the police supposed to be killing as quickly and indiscriminately as possible? Is this what police are supposed to be doing? Killing indiscriminately?


I seriously don’t understand maga “logic” like this. Then again I’m generally anti-police as it is. Can you explain why police would be expected to kill mass number of people?

Yet by voting and being an American, each person is voting to increase the building of rifles that should NOT be anywhere to use in the great US of A. It is not just tankers defense if building wake the F up America

Wut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they interview any of this guy's family members? Did he leave a manifesto? Tell anyone where he was going? He is similar to Luigi's age. What's happening to young men born before Y2K?

Wokeness is trying its best to neuter our men, as in “toxic masculinity”. Wokeness wants women to be men. Wokeness aims to crush civilization as we know it.

Think about it.

And all that is what made a football player mad at the NFL for promoting football? What color is the sky in your world?

Don’t be ridiculous. I responded to the poster asking what’s happening to our young men. What’s your response to that question?

Young men are all turning into these violent, incels.

Watch the Netflix series Adolescence to see what young men have become!

Netflix is still around?? Thought they went broke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TBI + access to an AR-15 = this. Nobody should be allowed access to these types of firearms.

M4 assault rifle being reported

He strutted confidently down the street with the gun in full view. And people just acted like there was nothing to see there. What’s wrong with New Yorkers?

Culture not just in NYC is to: mind your own business. Maybe that should change, just maybe.

I would have thought it was a costume. It was not too far off from the theater district.

The actual assault style long rifle? Maybe if one didn't know what a rifle looked like??

Pray tell, what is an “assault style” rifle? A rifle is a rifle. What makes one “assault style?” Be specific.

An assault rifle or assault style rifle or whatever - a rifle, any rifle, period - is only good for slaughtering mass numbers of people as quickly as possible, with a hail of indiscriminate bullets. They don’t even need to be aimed carefully because they can put out up to 900 bullets per minute. In the 3-5 minutes duration of the average mass shooting, that means possibly 2,700-4,500 bullets could be fired.


They are killing machines. Only the police should have them.

LMAO, I spilled my drink laughing at your description above. You owe me a new blouse now!

[Anonymous]

14:05 aren't there NYPD stolling each block?

OP. No. There aren't police strolling at Park Avenue and 52nd Street at 6:30 on a summer night. I mean there might be a patrol car driving around the area looking for any signs of trouble, but it would be an amazing coincidence if it happened to be in the right place at the right time and the officers noticed the gun.

Wouldn't *someone* have seen him before he entered the building or right when he exited his car with a long gun?

It really is impossible to say. It's probable that from exiting the vehicle to entering the lobby less than 2 minutes elapsed. Entirely believable that it was 90 seconds or less. It's possible that he looked left and right to wait for a break in the foot traffic before he exited the vehicle and then walked quickly up the steps to the plaza. (Earlier someone using the bank might have seen him, but by 6:30 the bank would have been closed and I THINK the cash machine entrance is on the Park Ave side. )

If anyone did notice him--again, purely speculative--it would be a small number of people, who really might not have noticed the gun or walked past him without registering that it was a gun he was carrying. Worst case scenario, 1 or 2 people saw him and realized it was a gun and did nothing. There weren't "hordes" of New Yorkers walking past hjm. As someone else said, it's possible that IF someone saw him that someone was a tourist.

And, frankly, we don't know for sure that nobody called 911. Such a call could have come in a matter or seconds before others called when they heard a gunshot. I don't think going back and combing through all the calls to learn which each caller said is the number one priority right now.

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