Amherst vs Davidson..

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Anonymous wrote:DC is being recruited by both for her sport, and submitted pre read material for Amherst. Messaging from both coaches indicates she will be in top tier of recruiting targets for both schools. Luvs both coaches and campuses, and vibe at both. For those familiar with both, what aspects highlight the differences - pros and cons - between the two? Econ major with business-type aspirations at this young age

Have her go to recruiting weekends at both schools her senior year. She may walk away with a distinct preference… based on team dynamic and coach.

These are both excellent schools. Good luck to your daughter!

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Anonymous wrote:All this talk about Amherst, Williams, and “The Street,” reminds me of all the chatter about Bucknell! So, are all these schools peers? If not, stop the crap about “The Steet,” which says little about the school and more about the kids who attend - greedy, competitive, athletic, not intellectual.

Reading is fundamental. OP’s child is interested in finance.

Agree, reading is fundamental.

OP: Econ major with business-type aspirations at this young age.

Where in this comment is there anything about finance or The Street?

Business-type aspirations refers to what?

Good question. Bizarre phrasing, yet she’s somehow surprised posters don’t know what this means. Hope her kid is a better writer.

cmon guy, you know what she meant. DCUM is brutal with criticisms like this - too full of weirdos looking to critique every post - god help this guy’s kids, I’m sure they became try-hard misfits with this kind of support system!

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure that you enjoy Southern culture; a friend of DC's transferred out of Davidson after a year because it was "too Southern" for her.

I feel that way about New England schools in the opposite way; they're just too "Northern" -- cold weather, unfriendly students who aren't welcoming to those from a different background/culture, and often located in states with minimal diversity.

When you look at Southern sororities and fraternities which are very popular there is no diversity at all.

There was an article recently about Amherst (NYT I believe) that talked about how despite going overboard on DEI (and I am generally supportive of DEI within reason) there is a ton of self-segregation. So just because it isn’t happening through the vehicle or Greek life doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen everywhere.

As a lifelong Yankee who spent a few years living in the south I really can’t stand the ignorant stereotypes from those who have never been there. Yes, the south is far from perfect and the stereotypes have their reason for existing, but not everyone is like that. But if you go down there obsessed with looking for it, you will find it. Kind of like how if southerners came north thinking everyone there is an ignorant self-absorbed know-it-all, they would likely find those people. As clearly demonstrated on DCUM.

The self segregation is everywhere. That’s nothing new. It’s the forced segregation that you would likely find in the South. It might be in a small population of the big schools but that population tends to be the most visible and is following tradition that dates back to the Wallace era.

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure that you enjoy Southern culture; a friend of DC's transferred out of Davidson after a year because it was "too Southern" for her.

I feel that way about New England schools in the opposite way; they're just too "Northern" -- cold weather, unfriendly students who aren't welcoming to those from a different background/culture, and often located in states with minimal diversity.

When you look at Southern sororities and fraternities which are very popular there is no diversity at all.

There was an article recently about Amherst (NYT I believe) that talked about how despite going overboard on DEI (and I am generally supportive of DEI within reason) there is a ton of self-segregation. So just because it isn’t happening through the vehicle or Greek life doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen everywhere.

As a lifelong Yankee who spent a few years living in the south I really can’t stand the ignorant stereotypes from those who have never been there. Yes, the south is far from perfect and the stereotypes have their reason for existing, but not everyone is like that. But if you go down there obsessed with looking for it, you will find it. Kind of like how if southerners came north thinking everyone there is an ignorant self-absorbed know-it-all, they would likely find those people. As clearly demonstrated on DCUM.

Link please

+1 Exactly. Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure that you enjoy Southern culture; a friend of DC's transferred out of Davidson after a year because it was "too Southern" for her.

I feel that way about New England schools in the opposite way; they're just too "Northern" -- cold weather, unfriendly students who aren't welcoming to those from a different background/culture, and often located in states with minimal diversity.

When you look at Southern sororities and fraternities which are very popular there is no diversity at all.

There was an article recently about Amherst (NYT I believe) that talked about how despite going overboard on DEI (and I am generally supportive of DEI within reason) there is a ton of self-segregation. So just because it isn’t happening through the vehicle or Greek life doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen everywhere.

As a lifelong Yankee who spent a few years living in the south I really can’t stand the ignorant stereotypes from those who have never been there. Yes, the south is far from perfect and the stereotypes have their reason for existing, but not everyone is like that. But if you go down there obsessed with looking for it, you will find it. Kind of like how if southerners came north thinking everyone there is an ignorant self-absorbed know-it-all, they would likely find those people. As clearly demonstrated on DCUM.

Link please

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure that you enjoy Southern culture; a friend of DC's transferred out of Davidson after a year because it was "too Southern" for her.

I feel that way about New England schools in the opposite way; they're just too "Northern" -- cold weather, unfriendly students who aren't welcoming to those from a different background/culture, and often located in states with minimal diversity.

When you look at Southern sororities and fraternities which are very popular there is no diversity at all.

There was an article recently about Amherst (NYT I believe) that talked about how despite going overboard on DEI (and I am generally supportive of DEI within reason) there is a ton of self-segregation. So just because it isn’t happening through the vehicle or Greek life doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen everywhere.

As a lifelong Yankee who spent a few years living in the south I really can’t stand the ignorant stereotypes from those who have never been there. Yes, the south is far from perfect and the stereotypes have their reason for existing, but not everyone is like that. But if you go down there obsessed with looking for it, you will find it. Kind of like how if southerners came north thinking everyone there is an ignorant self-absorbed know-it-all, they would likely find those people. As clearly demonstrated on DCUM.

Link please

https://medium.com/@nathanladuke/to-those-who-comment-their-opinion-without-reading-the-whole-article-b56da64a09ee

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding all this “The Street” nonsense, NE schools send a lot of people to Wall Street because it’s in the NE and finance is a major regional industry. But, that doesn’t say much about the quality of NE schools or any other. If Wall Street was in Dallas, would we swear by SMU because they send a lot of kids to “The Street”? If OP’s daughter likes Davidson, go there. Davidson has a well-publicized boot camp they offer every year for students with a passion for “The Street,” and they all get jobs. Just because Davidson sends fewer kids to Wall Street - mostly because it’s not a regional employer - doesn’t mean that Davidson doesn’t provide a good education or that kids from there have no hopes of a Street job. It just ain’t so.

It's opposite, Wall Street sits in New York is because of NE elite schools or talents.

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Anonymous wrote:Amherst is a better school. Not too many people North of DC know much about Davidson but Amherst is well known and well regarded.

Of course, the New Englanders who prefer to stay in New England would feel that way.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is being recruited by both for her sport, and submitted pre read material for Amherst. Messaging from both coaches indicates she will be in top tier of recruiting targets for both schools. Luvs both coaches and campuses, and vibe at both. For those familiar with both, what aspects highlight the differences - pros and cons - between the two? Econ major with business-type aspirations at this young age

Have her go to recruiting weekends at both schools her senior year. She may walk away with a distinct preference… based on team dynamic and coach.

These are both excellent schools. Good luck to your daughter!

Yes, both are excellent schools, but, there are difference. Amherst sits in top 2 since US News started ranking colleges, and yes, it sit in top 1 for about 10 years about 20 years back. As far as Davidson, do someone know what's its highest ranking?

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure that you enjoy Southern culture; a friend of DC's transferred out of Davidson after a year because it was "too Southern" for her.

I feel that way about New England schools in the opposite way; they're just too "Northern" -- cold weather, unfriendly students who aren't welcoming to those from a different background/culture, and often located in states with minimal diversity.

When you look at Southern sororities and fraternities which are very popular there is no diversity at all.

There was an article recently about Amherst (NYT I believe) that talked about how despite going overboard on DEI (and I am generally supportive of DEI within reason) there is a ton of self-segregation. So just because it isn’t happening through the vehicle or Greek life doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen everywhere.

As a lifelong Yankee who spent a few years living in the south I really can’t stand the ignorant stereotypes from those who have never been there. Yes, the south is far from perfect and the stereotypes have their reason for existing, but not everyone is like that. But if you go down there obsessed with looking for it, you will find it. Kind of like how if southerners came north thinking everyone there is an ignorant self-absorbed know-it-all, they would likely find those people. As clearly demonstrated on DCUM.

+1 Exactly. Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:DC is being recruited by both for her sport, and submitted pre read material for Amherst. Messaging from both coaches indicates she will be in top tier of recruiting targets for both schools. Luvs both coaches and campuses, and vibe at both. For those familiar with both, what aspects highlight the differences - pros and cons - between the two? Econ major with business-type aspirations at this young age

Have her go to recruiting weekends at both schools her senior year. She may walk away with a distinct preference… based on team dynamic and coach.

These are both excellent schools. Good luck to your daughter!

Yes, both are excellent schools, but, there are difference. Amherst sits in top 2 since US News started ranking colleges, and yes, it sit in top 1 for about 10 years about 20 years back. As far as Davidson, do someone know what's its highest ranking?

It made it to #10, not long ago. Great school, but there is a difference. It’s surprising to me the kid doesn’t have a preference, regardless.

D3 vs D1
Open curriculum vs distribution requirements
New England vs South
Very diverse vs limited diversity comparatively (something like 50% POC vs 16%)
No Greek life vs Greek life
Nerdier vibe vs more balanced vibe

I have two very different kids. One on their way to Amherst, can’t wait. The other would pick Davidson in a heartbeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure that you enjoy Southern culture; a friend of DC's transferred out of Davidson after a year because it was "too Southern" for her.

I feel that way about New England schools in the opposite way; they're just too "Northern" -- cold weather, unfriendly students who aren't welcoming to those from a different background/culture, and often located in states with minimal diversity.

When you look at Southern sororities and fraternities which are very popular there is no diversity at all.

There was an article recently about Amherst (NYT I believe) that talked about how despite going overboard on DEI (and I am generally supportive of DEI within reason) there is a ton of self-segregation. So just because it isn’t happening through the vehicle or Greek life doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen everywhere.

As a lifelong Yankee who spent a few years living in the south I really can’t stand the ignorant stereotypes from those who have never been there. Yes, the south is far from perfect and the stereotypes have their reason for existing, but not everyone is like that. But if you go down there obsessed with looking for it, you will find it. Kind of like how if southerners came north thinking everyone there is an ignorant self-absorbed know-it-all, they would likely find those people. As clearly demonstrated on DCUM.

Link please

No link needed. People are allowed to have opinions.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is being recruited by both for her sport, and submitted pre read material for Amherst. Messaging from both coaches indicates she will be in top tier of recruiting targets for both schools. Luvs both coaches and campuses, and vibe at both. For those familiar with both, what aspects highlight the differences - pros and cons - between the two? Econ major with business-type aspirations at this young age

Have her go to recruiting weekends at both schools her senior year. She may walk away with a distinct preference… based on team dynamic and coach.

These are both excellent schools. Good luck to your daughter!

Yes, both are excellent schools, but, there are difference. Amherst sits in top 2 since US News started ranking colleges, and yes, it sit in top 1 for about 10 years about 20 years back. As far as Davidson, do someone know what's its highest ranking?

It made it to #10, not long ago. Great school, but there is a difference. It’s surprising to me the kid doesn’t have a preference, regardless.

D3 vs D1
Open curriculum vs distribution requirements
New England vs South
Very diverse vs limited diversity comparatively (something like 50% POC vs 16%)
No Greek life vs Greek life
Nerdier vibe vs more balanced vibe

I have two very different kids. One on their way to Amherst, can’t wait. The other would pick Davidson in a heartbeat.

These are really not substantial differences unless you have big location preferences. Also Amherst these days isn’t “diverse” other than a love for Asian students- it’s last class was 2-3% black and will continue to be that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding all this “The Street” nonsense, NE schools send a lot of people to Wall Street because it’s in the NE and finance is a major regional industry. But, that doesn’t say much about the quality of NE schools or any other. If Wall Street was in Dallas, would we swear by SMU because they send a lot of kids to “The Street”? If OP’s daughter likes Davidson, go there. Davidson has a well-publicized boot camp they offer every year for students with a passion for “The Street,” and they all get jobs. Just because Davidson sends fewer kids to Wall Street - mostly because it’s not a regional employer - doesn’t mean that Davidson doesn’t provide a good education or that kids from there have no hopes of a Street job. It just ain’t so.

It's opposite, Wall Street sits in New York is because of NE elite schools or talents.

Wall Street started in 1792- most of the states we have today weren’t even in the US. Also a lot of migration out of wall street for economics today- look at Texas and Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is being recruited by both for her sport, and submitted pre read material for Amherst. Messaging from both coaches indicates she will be in top tier of recruiting targets for both schools. Luvs both coaches and campuses, and vibe at both. For those familiar with both, what aspects highlight the differences - pros and cons - between the two? Econ major with business-type aspirations at this young age

Have her go to recruiting weekends at both schools her senior year. She may walk away with a distinct preference… based on team dynamic and coach.

These are both excellent schools. Good luck to your daughter!

Yes, both are excellent schools, but, there are difference. Amherst sits in top 2 since US News started ranking colleges, and yes, it sit in top 1 for about 10 years about 20 years back. As far as Davidson, do someone know what's its highest ranking?

It made it to #10, not long ago. Great school, but there is a difference. It’s surprising to me the kid doesn’t have a preference, regardless.

D3 vs D1
Open curriculum vs distribution requirements
New England vs South
Very diverse vs limited diversity comparatively (something like 50% POC vs 16%)
No Greek life vs Greek life
Nerdier vibe vs more balanced vibe

I have two very different kids. One on their way to Amherst, can’t wait. The other would pick Davidson in a heartbeat.

These are really not substantial differences unless you have big location preferences. Also Amherst these days isn’t “diverse” other than a love for Asian students- it’s last class was 2-3% black and will continue to be that way.

The diversity was a blip. They recruited hard in targeted areas to turn that around. We were on campus not long ago and it is noticeably more diverse than other LACs we visited. Except for Swarthmore.