Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous
Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.


You mean with or without 50% of Ukraine’s mineral resources?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.


You are naive. Trump will supply the Russians with US troops and weapons. Maybe Putin will give him $100.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.


You are naive. Trump will supply the Russians with US troops and weapons. Maybe Putin will give him $100.


No he won't. You like to call people naive. You never enlightened us with what your peace plan is, since you thought it was foolish for Rubio to even try to hammer out a peace plan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.


You mean with or without 50% of Ukraine’s mineral resources?


Jared Kushner and Rudy Giuliani already have companies ready to mine. They will save a lot of money by using Ukrainian prisoners. That is how Trump negotiated his capitulation to the Russians. Wonder what our other allies are thinking?
Anonymous
What's the solution? We've already poured $200B into Ukraine and they keep losing territory. Europe is doing nothing.

A) keep on doing the same, spend $1T on Ukraine and they lose anyway, except it costs 1M more lives over th next 10 years

B) accept the world as it is, not as you want it to be. Pull funding, which will force a peace deal that might be a bitter pill. Place European troops on a DMZ, so so if Russia attacks again, they will be killing troops from a continent armed with nukes.

What's option C? Full scale assault on Russia to overthrow their govt and force them to relinquish everything they have taken?

There are so, soooop many problems in the US. We cannot be the guarantor of security for the entire continent of Europe while our people are suffering and our roads are falling apart. If Europe wants to protect the Baltics, then let them out European troops on European soil. The US will be there to backstop them from beig overrun.

We have much larger problems now with the militarization of the Pacific and the North Pole. China is busy trying to encircle the US and control all shipping and commerce from Asia to Europe. China is a much bigger threat than Russia that we need to focus on countering. As the war in Ukraine shows, Russia's military is a joke and would get obliterated in an all out war. They have no ability to threaten American soil except for nukes. China can threaten our mainland directly.
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Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.


Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.


Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.


Russia was the aggressor. Ukraine owes them nothing.

And if Ukraine is excluded from negotiations, they are not bound or beholden to any so-called "agreement" made. If the "agreement" says that Russia is to withdraw, great. But this nonsense about things like making restitution to Russia is absolute garbage and if I were Zelenskyy I'd be saying "go collect from Trump." If anything, Russia needs to be paying Ukraine reparations. Russia's invasion was unprovoked, illegal and unwarranted.


Ukraine can fight Russia without American taxpayer dollars and American taxpayer funded military arms. Let’s see how long they last.


Ukraine absolutely needs to be part of the negotiations.

But Europe as whole? No, freeloading time is over. If you want to be partners instead of lackeys then you should have put your money where your mouth is.

I would have zero problems if they want to step up and be equal partners. As it stands though NATO and the EU have been suckling off the teat of the U.S. since 1945.

Still waiting to see how the supposed “soft power” the U.S. gets from being Europe’s guard dog helps the citizens that are subsidizing their defense so they can have their cushy welfare states and look down at us for being “military obsessed”








Look at that, as soon as Trump scares the crap out of them, European leaders are now discussing a potential agreement to spend $700B on their militaries. In the end, it might have actually worked. Europeans crap on the US for healthcare, education, childcare, etc. Let's see how many wonderful social programs they have left now that they have to spend significant sums on protecting themselves. They'll have to raise taxes so much it'll suffocate everyone, or they'll have to cut social spending if they want to exist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.


You are naive. Trump will supply the Russians with US troops and weapons. Maybe Putin will give him $100.


LOL.

Killing Russians is wired in to anyone born from 1950-1980s.

The war will escalate - it is in trumps best interest. He just needs higher Russian body count. Then negotiate peace.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to relax.

This is very common.

Watch America flood 4x weapons into Ukraine in the next 90 days as Trump “satisfies his population”.

Carrot; here is stick.

If Trump is smart it will be stick, stick, can’t find carrot; another stick then carrot.


You are naive. Trump will supply the Russians with US troops and weapons. Maybe Putin will give him $100.


No he won't. You like to call people naive. You never enlightened us with what your peace plan is, since you thought it was foolish for Rubio to even try to hammer out a peace plan.


Are you paying attention? They aren’t hammering out sht. They excluded Ukraine and Europe in the talk. They demanded 50% of Ukraine’s rare earth minerals for no safety guarantee. Wake up
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It's not really a negotiation, it's the US backing away from helping Ukraine, giving Putin a list of weapons supplied

Does the US think that the other European countries such as Germany, UK and France will stop supporting Ukraine? Neither Europe nor Ukraine involved in negotiations. And the negotiations are being held in Saudi Arabia. Really? This isn’t going to end well for anybody, including the USA.

Trump asked the Europeans to give him a list of what they would do, and what they wanted the US to do.
They refused to provide troops in Ukraine unless the US did as well.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Who would have thought the US would surrender to a shell of a country like Russia. This is shocking.

This is Chamberlain and the Munich Agreement but with the Nazis just buying Chamberlain.


It really is. And America's surrender to Putin will likely lead to a much worse war in a few years when Russia has rearmed.


How can America surrender to Putin if America is not at war with Putin?
Anonymous
The more this war continues, the more Russia is allied with Iran and China.
I want Ukraine to win, but it is more important to me that Russia be on the side of the West.
Anonymous
When will Israel be expected to pay reparations like the Ukrainians have been forced to do by Trump?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because the US did the same with Gaza. Only the US and Israel negotiated. Hamas wasn’t in the room.


Don't forget Afghanistan! The first Trump Administration negotiated the pullout from Afghanistan that the Biden Administration later executed. The Afghan government was not in the talks.
Anonymous
It’s kind of cool that Putin only wants to deal with Trump. Putin knows he can get whatever he wants with Trump on the other side of the table.
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