When do AMC 8 results come out? Should I push my dd to do better next year?

[Anonymous]

AMC8 score is not relevant to TJ. The contest tests non-TJ curriculum. TJ has its own, equitable selection process based on schools and school curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did any students receive the award from MAA yet?

Anonymous wrote:2025 AMC8 results are out:
Honor Roll: 19
Top 2.5%: 21
Distinguished Honor Roll: 23

Your proctor sends those.

We got nothing yet except the initial scores.

I sympathize with your continued suffering. None of us can help you with your anonymous proctor.
You have to ask the proctor for the award info, or print the award yourself:

https://amc-reg.maa.org/certificates/index.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did any students receive the award from MAA yet?

Anonymous wrote:2025 AMC8 results are out:
Honor Roll: 19
Top 2.5%: 21
Distinguished Honor Roll: 23

Your proctor sends those.

We got nothing yet except the initial scores.

I sympathize with your continued suffering. None of us can help you with your anonymous proctor.
You have to ask the proctor for the award info, or print the award yourself:

https://amc-reg.maa.org/certificates/index.aspx

These are from 2022...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
They've also done a lot of work digitizing the test itself, near-instant scoring, and randomizing question orders.

About that...

DC reported the same when they got stuck on problem 3 - did they actually announce that? Doing it behind people's back seems stupid and unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
They've also done a lot of work digitizing the test itself, near-instant scoring, and randomizing question orders.

About that...

DC reported the same when they got stuck on problem 3 - did they actually announce that? Doing it behind people's back seems stupid and unfair.

The boards I have read and the kids I have talked to were all aware that things were randomized. Kids could skip questions and return to them. One technique that is reinforced in my kids math competition program is to skip the problems you are struggling with and return to them when you have answered all the ones that you are comfortable with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ This report is from last year, but it gives an idea of rarity.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/VAEDUFCPS/bulletins/39692a4

Last year at Longfellow, 3 kids qualified for AIME, 9 kids made AMC 10 achievement roll, 8 kids made AMC 8 DHR, and 36 made AMC 8 HR.

Thanks for the link. A few questions:

1) What is a Team Member? The AMCs are not a team competition so I don’t know what an AMC 8 or 10 Team member is. More curious than anything.

2) How many of those kids were 8th graders or 7th graders? Just because I am curious. I doubt that you know that.

3) Why are kids listed on both the HR and DHR? That is kind of weird. Really 28 kids made HR because they counted the DHR kids in with the HR, they double counted them.

Without knowing how many kids took the test at Longfellow, it is hard to know if those kids really stand out because there were a lot more that took it and did not earn HR or DHR. If that list is pretty much everyone who took then what I think holds true, most the kids who take the test at a school like Longfellow will earn HR or DHR, which is commendable but will likely have less impact on a TJ application.

Earning HR and DHR on the AMCs is awesome, especially if you are taking them early. But I suspect that many of the TJ applicants from the major feeders will have similar scores.

1. Each school or test center gets a team score that is the sum of the top 3 scorers. Since 4 kids are listed, the school probably took both AMC 10A and AMC 10B, with some kids making top 3 on both, and some kids only making it on one or the other.

2 and 3. No clue.
I wouldn't be surprised if around 100 kids at Longfellow take the test. I also wouldn't be surprised if every TJ feeder with a strong math competition team has similar results. To me, AMC 8 HR wouldn't stand out in a TJ application on its own. If it's supported by a narrative of how the kid worked hard to achieve a goal of making HR or how passionate the kid is about math, it could make sense in an essay. If the kid is not at a higher SES AAP center, then AMC 8 HR might stand out a little bit.

Last year or a couple of years before when they stopped publishing names, they were widely accused of anti-Asian bias; however, they responded by saying that they felt that it was really their privacy disclosures /consent (or lack thereof) that prevented them from posting names.

I noticed that this year's registration form contained updated language that made me think that they were seeking consent to publishing names.

Does anyone with actual knowledge have any info whether they'll resume posting honor rolls?

All of the registration language was there last year. I was hoping that they'd publish the lists then, but no dice. If they intended to do so this year, they would have already done so in November or December with the AMC 10 and 12 results.

No one knows why they stopped publishing the honor rolls. Many other contests publish the names of students, and MAA has been given permission to do so in registration, so the student privacy thing seems questionable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
They've also done a lot of work digitizing the test itself, near-instant scoring, and randomizing question orders.

About that...

DC reported the same when they got stuck on problem 3 - did they actually announce that? Doing it behind people's back seems stupid and unfair.

The boards I have read and the kids I have talked to were all aware that things were randomized. Kids could skip questions and return to them. One technique that is reinforced in my kids math competition program is to skip the problems you are struggling with and return to them when you have answered all the ones that you are comfortable with.

The kids I've talked to personally all were surprised.

There's a traditional way to approach the AMC contests, which, for instance, gives rise to the course title: Final Fives. For them to just throw this out the window without prior announcement and disclosure is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ This report is from last year, but it gives an idea of rarity.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/VAEDUFCPS/bulletins/39692a4

Last year at Longfellow, 3 kids qualified for AIME, 9 kids made AMC 10 achievement roll, 8 kids made AMC 8 DHR, and 36 made AMC 8 HR.

Thanks for the link. A few questions:

1) What is a Team Member? The AMCs are not a team competition so I don’t know what an AMC 8 or 10 Team member is. More curious than anything.

2) How many of those kids were 8th graders or 7th graders? Just because I am curious. I doubt that you know that.

3) Why are kids listed on both the HR and DHR? That is kind of weird. Really 28 kids made HR because they counted the DHR kids in with the HR, they double counted them.

Without knowing how many kids took the test at Longfellow, it is hard to know if those kids really stand out because there were a lot more that took it and did not earn HR or DHR. If that list is pretty much everyone who took then what I think holds true, most the kids who take the test at a school like Longfellow will earn HR or DHR, which is commendable but will likely have less impact on a TJ application.

Earning HR and DHR on the AMCs is awesome, especially if you are taking them early. But I suspect that many of the TJ applicants from the major feeders will have similar scores.

1. Each school or test center gets a team score that is the sum of the top 3 scorers. Since 4 kids are listed, the school probably took both AMC 10A and AMC 10B, with some kids making top 3 on both, and some kids only making it on one or the other.

2 and 3. No clue.
I wouldn't be surprised if around 100 kids at Longfellow take the test. I also wouldn't be surprised if every TJ feeder with a strong math competition team has similar results. To me, AMC 8 HR wouldn't stand out in a TJ application on its own. If it's supported by a narrative of how the kid worked hard to achieve a goal of making HR or how passionate the kid is about math, it could make sense in an essay. If the kid is not at a higher SES AAP center, then AMC 8 HR might stand out a little bit.

Last year or a couple of years before when they stopped publishing names, they were widely accused of anti-Asian bias; however, they responded by saying that they felt that it was really their privacy disclosures /consent (or lack thereof) that prevented them from posting names.

I noticed that this year's registration form contained updated language that made me think that they were seeking consent to publishing names.

Does anyone with actual knowledge have any info whether they'll resume posting honor rolls?

All of the registration language was there last year. I was hoping that they'd publish the lists then, but no dice. If they intended to do so this year, they would have already done so in November or December with the AMC 10 and 12 results.

No one knows why they stopped publishing the honor rolls. Many other contests publish the names of students, and MAA has been given permission to do so in registration, so the student privacy thing seems questionable.

BTW, pp here. The information that it was about privacy/disclosure came from personal communication with the AMC representatives (who respond to you if you email them).

That said, I too agree it's questionable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ This report is from last year, but it gives an idea of rarity.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/VAEDUFCPS/bulletins/39692a4

Last year at Longfellow, 3 kids qualified for AIME, 9 kids made AMC 10 achievement roll, 8 kids made AMC 8 DHR, and 36 made AMC 8 HR.

Thanks for the link. A few questions:

1) What is a Team Member? The AMCs are not a team competition so I don’t know what an AMC 8 or 10 Team member is. More curious than anything.

2) How many of those kids were 8th graders or 7th graders? Just because I am curious. I doubt that you know that.

3) Why are kids listed on both the HR and DHR? That is kind of weird. Really 28 kids made HR because they counted the DHR kids in with the HR, they double counted them.

Without knowing how many kids took the test at Longfellow, it is hard to know if those kids really stand out because there were a lot more that took it and did not earn HR or DHR. If that list is pretty much everyone who took then what I think holds true, most the kids who take the test at a school like Longfellow will earn HR or DHR, which is commendable but will likely have less impact on a TJ application.

Earning HR and DHR on the AMCs is awesome, especially if you are taking them early. But I suspect that many of the TJ applicants from the major feeders will have similar scores.

1. Each school or test center gets a team score that is the sum of the top 3 scorers. Since 4 kids are listed, the school probably took both AMC 10A and AMC 10B, with some kids making top 3 on both, and some kids only making it on one or the other.

2 and 3. No clue.
I wouldn't be surprised if around 100 kids at Longfellow take the test. I also wouldn't be surprised if every TJ feeder with a strong math competition team has similar results. To me, AMC 8 HR wouldn't stand out in a TJ application on its own. If it's supported by a narrative of how the kid worked hard to achieve a goal of making HR or how passionate the kid is about math, it could make sense in an essay. If the kid is not at a higher SES AAP center, then AMC 8 HR might stand out a little bit.

Last year or a couple of years before when they stopped publishing names, they were widely accused of anti-Asian bias; however, they responded by saying that they felt that it was really their privacy disclosures /consent (or lack thereof) that prevented them from posting names.

I noticed that this year's registration form contained updated language that made me think that they were seeking consent to publishing names.

Does anyone with actual knowledge have any info whether they'll resume posting honor rolls?

All of the registration language was there last year. I was hoping that they'd publish the lists then, but no dice. If they intended to do so this year, they would have already done so in November or December with the AMC 10 and 12 results.

No one knows why they stopped publishing the honor rolls. Many other contests publish the names of students, and MAA has been given permission to do so in registration, so the student privacy thing seems questionable.

BTW, pp here. The information that it was about privacy/disclosure came from personal communication with the AMC representatives (who respond to you if you email them).

That said, I too agree it's questionable.

I know that's what they said. I just don't believe them. At the same time that they stopped publishing the honor rolls, they likewise stopped providing other data, like the overall percentile and grade level percentile for each score, the percent of kids who got each question correct, etc. Also, if they only cared about privacy, then they would have published the lists last year or this year, since they expressly got permission from parents to do so in the registration materials.

The last time they published the lists, someone made a fake school and got a bunch of obviously fake names onto the honor roll. Perhaps they stopped publishing the rolls to spare themselves the embarrassment of not catching the troll names and fake school. Perhaps it was just a casualty of the shift from their own data platform to edvistas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did any students receive the award from MAA yet?

Anonymous wrote:2025 AMC8 results are out:
Honor Roll: 19
Top 2.5%: 21
Distinguished Honor Roll: 23

Your proctor sends those.

We got nothing yet except the initial scores.

I sympathize with your continued suffering. None of us can help you with your anonymous proctor.
You have to ask the proctor for the award info, or print the award yourself:

https://amc-reg.maa.org/certificates/index.aspx

These are from 2022...

Apply White-Out to paper after printing, or to your screen before printing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
They've also done a lot of work digitizing the test itself, near-instant scoring, and randomizing question orders.

About that...

DC reported the same when they got stuck on problem 3 - did they actually announce that? Doing it behind people's back seems stupid and unfair.

The boards I have read and the kids I have talked to were all aware that things were randomized. Kids could skip questions and return to them. One technique that is reinforced in my kids math competition program is to skip the problems you are struggling with and return to them when you have answered all the ones that you are comfortable with.

The kids I've talked to personally all were surprised.

There's a traditional way to approach the AMC contests, which, for instance, gives rise to the course title: Final Fives. For them to just throw this out the window without prior announcement and disclosure is stupid.

It started with AMC 10/12 this year and maybe even last year.

It has never been officially announced, but kids talked about what they saw and the word spread.

[Anonymous]

The DHR was a 23, this makes me think that the question randomization did not bother too many kids. The kids seemed to handle it just fine.

I do wish that they provided more details about the test results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DHR was a 23, this makes me think that the question randomization did not bother too many kids. The kids seemed to handle it just fine.

I do wish that they provided more details about the test results.

23 is extremely high! 2 pts higher than in 2023. Same as 2024 though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did any students receive the award from MAA yet?

Anonymous wrote:2025 AMC8 results are out:
Honor Roll: 19
Top 2.5%: 21
Distinguished Honor Roll: 23

Your proctor sends those.

We got nothing yet except the initial scores.

I sympathize with your continued suffering. None of us can help you with your anonymous proctor.
You have to ask the proctor for the award info, or print the award yourself:

https://amc-reg.maa.org/certificates/index.aspx

These are from 2022...

Apply White-Out to paper after printing, or to your screen before printing.

That's great advice. You should start an arts and crafts blog or something. I will go right ahead and apply White-Out to my computer screen.

[Anonymous]

USA(J)MO cutoffs have been posted. https://maa.org/news/2025-usamo-and-usajmo-thresholds-now-available/