Park city ski patrol on strike

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Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.

A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!


Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us


It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.

All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.

That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.



Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.


Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.

It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.

The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version


There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”


Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing


And you rent equipment for the season.

You ski mid week. You ski 1/2 days. You ski at night.

There are many ways of making it economical. You’re just complaining about a luxury experience being too expensive.

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1/2 and evening lift tickets save almost nothing. And skiing midweek doesn’t factor in the cost of the day off work/school. Liberty is $150 per person per day not counting food and gas.



Above is laughable, drive 3 hours but likely 3.5 hours round trip with weekday traffic to ski a little mountain like Liberty for 4 hours.

My kids friend, his family tried to go Friday early afternoon to ski Friday night at Whitetail, one time and got stuck on 270 due to accident and took them 3 hours just to get there.
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My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


Totally affordable to your average MC joe
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


How many people was this? Sound like at least a dozen. Obviously just the flights for that many people is a lot.
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


I mean, $35k is what my in-laws are paying for 4 rooms on a Disney Cruise (Them plus a room for the families of each of their 3 kids.) Each room is almost $9k. And that doesn’t include airfare.
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


I mean, $35k is what my in-laws are paying for 4 rooms on a Disney Cruise (Them plus a room for the families of each of their 3 kids.) Each room is almost $9k. And that doesn’t include airfare.


And if the cruise crew went on strike we’d hear boohoo stories about kids not getting to spend the week with Mickey.
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Anonymous wrote:Vail management sucks


How do they suck in this particular situation? Do you know anything about this situation? Do you know anything about union labor?


Yes, the ski patrol has reasonable demands. They are chronically underpaid and have huge responsibilities. Vail is refusing to meet their salary demands - which I believe amounts to 4K per year.


Call is refusing to budge because it sets another precedent for bargaining power.
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**VAIL is refusing to budge, that is
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I am still getting daily emails from Vail about how much snow PC has gotten and how I should go. I feel like maybe they should lay off the advertising during the strike.
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


I mean, $35k is what my in-laws are paying for 4 rooms on a Disney Cruise (Them plus a room for the families of each of their 3 kids.) Each room is almost $9k. And that doesn’t include airfare.


And if the cruise crew went on strike we’d hear boohoo stories about kids not getting to spend the week with Mickey.


Except Disney would at least make good on the fare.
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


I mean, $35k is what my in-laws are paying for 4 rooms on a Disney Cruise (Them plus a room for the families of each of their 3 kids.) Each room is almost $9k. And that doesn’t include airfare.



My point is not that there are not other expensive vacations but 3k per person for 1 week is absurdly expensive and unaffordable for many people.
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


How many people was this? Sound like at least a dozen. Obviously just the flights for that many people is a lot.


12 people and flights to Denver about $300-$350 so was actually not a big cost of the whole package. Total a little over $4200 of 35k
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Anonymous wrote:My FIL took our family and DH’s siblings families to ski Breck for a week.

Accommodations was ski in/out but was average and nothing spectacular. All in with lift tickets (epic), accommodations, flights, transfers it was around 35k. We and DH siblings took care of the food costs for the week. Breck is also the less expensive mountain when it comes to accommodations in CO compared to Vail, Aspen, etc…

1 week =7 days = price of a car


I mean, $35k is what my in-laws are paying for 4 rooms on a Disney Cruise (Them plus a room for the families of each of their 3 kids.) Each room is almost $9k. And that doesn’t include airfare.


And if the cruise crew went on strike we’d hear boohoo stories about kids not getting to spend the week with Mickey.


Except Disney would at least make good on the fare.



And all your food costs is covered for large party which is huge. Not to mention activities and entertainment.

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What!? Wrong. You’re making stuff up.



That ratio is not good! I would be mad!
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This all makes me so happy
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