Terrible dysfunction at UC administration

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Anonymous wrote:UC system is fine for residents. Why anyone would pay OOS costs for a hot mess of a student experience is beyond me.

Due to admissions rates, people are disillusioned by the “prestige”. So dumb.
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs are overcrowded and chaotic. Hope you are ready to pay for more than 8 semesters because kids have to stay longer since they can’t get the necessary classes to graduate


California schools are always a target, but the fact is they provide an affordable accessible higher education, and are a critical tool for social mobility while also being top research institutes.

They are not, and never have been, plush, roll out the red carpet institutions.
However you will graduate with little debt and receive a pretty outstanding education. If you need to be hand held, they’re probably not the right school.

In fact it’s very against the culture to want to be hand held. Try telling the Berkeley subreddit that you want to have something timely done, and they’ll mock you for being entitled. It’s a culture that embraces being independent and challenged to defend for yourself.


exactly. I attended a SLAC at the same time my sister and brother were at CAL. I’ll always remember watching my sister go through the insane process of trying to register for classes. Meanwhile, I got sick on the day of registration and was unable to complete my forms. The next day I got a call from the Registrar telling me she had signed me up for everything I wanted, even contacting professors to get approval as needed!


This is a reminder that many LAC are $90k and UCLA is about $38k. In fact, many students attend for far less thanks to generous need-based grants and scholarships.

It’s a public university. It’s messy but it works. UCLA is a gorgeous vibrant campus with guaranteed housing all four years, a feat in a city with a housing crisis.

The food is amazing, the weather is perfect and students have access to events, arts, world-renowned speakers, sports and culture. There is something for everyone. Most students get into classes they need, eventually. I give you that customer service sucks and it’s an area that needs improvement.

But it’s a pretty special place to be otherwise.




“Most…eventually.” That’s the best you can do?

Welcome to Public University.
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Anonymous wrote:UC system is fine for residents. Why anyone would pay OOS costs for a hot mess of a student experience is beyond me.

Due to admissions rates, people are disillusioned by the “prestige”. So dumb.


Apparently so. If I had a kid who could have gone to UMC but went to Cal I’d feel pretty dumb.
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Anonymous wrote:UC system is fine for residents. Why anyone would pay OOS costs for a hot mess of a student experience is beyond me.

Due to admissions rates, people are disillusioned by the “prestige”. So dumb.


Apparently so. If I had a kid who could have gone to UMC but went to Cal I’d feel pretty dumb.

Yeah, that kid will be real starved at UC Berkeley...
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs are overcrowded and chaotic. Hope you are ready to pay for more than 8 semesters because kids have to stay longer since they can’t get the necessary classes to graduate


California schools are always a target, but the fact is they provide an affordable accessible higher education, and are a critical tool for social mobility while also being top research institutes.

They are not, and never have been, plush, roll out the red carpet institutions.
However you will graduate with little debt and receive a pretty outstanding education. If you need to be hand held, they’re probably not the right school.

In fact it’s very against the culture to want to be hand held. Try telling the Berkeley subreddit that you want to have something timely done, and they’ll mock you for being entitled. It’s a culture that embraces being independent and challenged to defend for yourself.


exactly. I attended a SLAC at the same time my sister and brother were at CAL. I’ll always remember watching my sister go through the insane process of trying to register for classes. Meanwhile, I got sick on the day of registration and was unable to complete my forms. The next day I got a call from the Registrar telling me she had signed me up for everything I wanted, even contacting professors to get approval as needed!


This is amazing and what I want for $90k!!
School name?!?
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs are overcrowded and chaotic. Hope you are ready to pay for more than 8 semesters because kids have to stay longer since they can’t get the necessary classes to graduate


California schools are always a target, but the fact is they provide an affordable accessible higher education, and are a critical tool for social mobility while also being top research institutes.

They are not, and never have been, plush, roll out the red carpet institutions.
However you will graduate with little debt and receive a pretty outstanding education. If you need to be hand held, they’re probably not the right school.

In fact it’s very against the culture to want to be hand held. Try telling the Berkeley subreddit that you want to have something timely done, and they’ll mock you for being entitled. It’s a culture that embraces being independent and challenged to defend for yourself.


exactly. I attended a SLAC at the same time my sister and brother were at CAL. I’ll always remember watching my sister go through the insane process of trying to register for classes. Meanwhile, I got sick on the day of registration and was unable to complete my forms. The next day I got a call from the Registrar telling me she had signed me up for everything I wanted, even contacting professors to get approval as needed!


This is amazing and what I want for $90k!!
School name?!?

This doesn't exist anymore, because the registrar no longer takes forms. Everything is online, and if you miss, tough luck. DC goes to Pomona though and once got sick, and his professor called him during class, so everyone could wish him well and asked his opinion on a few points that class.
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Anonymous wrote:Eh people will harp on the state school part, but DC is going to an ivy that had very similar issue. Financial aid offices can be pretty incompetent.


the aid offices are stocked with their own graduates who couldn't get a real job. basically a jobs program for a school's failures.
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Anonymous wrote:Eh people will harp on the state school part, but DC is going to an ivy that had very similar issue. Financial aid offices can be pretty incompetent.


the aid offices are stocked with their own graduates who couldn't get a real job. basically a jobs program for a school's failures.

Often Admissions departments are the same too.
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs are overcrowded and chaotic. Hope you are ready to pay for more than 8 semesters because kids have to stay longer since they can’t get the necessary classes to graduate


California schools are always a target, but the fact is they provide an affordable accessible higher education, and are a critical tool for social mobility while also being top research institutes.

They are not, and never have been, plush, roll out the red carpet institutions.
However you will graduate with little debt and receive a pretty outstanding education. If you need to be hand held, they’re probably not the right school.

In fact it’s very against the culture to want to be hand held. Try telling the Berkeley subreddit that you want to have something timely done, and they’ll mock you for being entitled. It’s a culture that embraces being independent and challenged to defend for yourself.


exactly. I attended a SLAC at the same time my sister and brother were at CAL. I’ll always remember watching my sister go through the insane process of trying to register for classes. Meanwhile, I got sick on the day of registration and was unable to complete my forms. The next day I got a call from the Registrar telling me she had signed me up for everything I wanted, even contacting professors to get approval as needed!


This is amazing and what I want for $90k!!
School name?!?


Any SLAC is going to give your kid a lot of personal attention. That’s the whole point particularly as you get below 25.
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Anonymous wrote:It's another reason I can't take US News seriously anymore. Berkeley and UCLA in the top 20 is ridiculous. And paying OOS tuition for the dysfunction would feel like robbery to me.


Berkeley should be in the top 10 and the fact that it is not is ridiculous.


+100
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs are overcrowded and chaotic. Hope you are ready to pay for more than 8 semesters because kids have to stay longer since they can’t get the necessary classes to graduate


California schools are always a target, but the fact is they provide an affordable accessible higher education, and are a critical tool for social mobility while also being top research institutes.

They are not, and never have been, plush, roll out the red carpet institutions.
However you will graduate with little debt and receive a pretty outstanding education. If you need to be hand held, they’re probably not the right school.

In fact it’s very against the culture to want to be hand held. Try telling the Berkeley subreddit that you want to have something timely done, and they’ll mock you for being entitled. It’s a culture that embraces being independent and challenged to defend for yourself.


exactly. I attended a SLAC at the same time my sister and brother were at CAL. I’ll always remember watching my sister go through the insane process of trying to register for classes. Meanwhile, I got sick on the day of registration and was unable to complete my forms. The next day I got a call from the Registrar telling me she had signed me up for everything I wanted, even contacting professors to get approval as needed!


This is a reminder that many LAC are $90k and UCLA is about $38k. In fact, many students attend for far less thanks to generous need-based grants and scholarships.

It’s a public university. It’s messy but it works. UCLA is a gorgeous vibrant campus with guaranteed housing all four years, a feat in a city with a housing crisis.

The food is amazing, the weather is perfect and students have access to events, arts, world-renowned speakers, sports and culture. There is something for everyone. Most students get into classes they need, eventually. I give you that customer service sucks and it’s an area that needs improvement.

But it’s a pretty special place to be otherwise.




“Most…eventually.” That’s the best you can do?


I’m sorry, what’s better? Attending a school in the middle of nowhere with 1,800 kids like high school? No thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:The UCs are overcrowded and chaotic. Hope you are ready to pay for more than 8 semesters because kids have to stay longer since they can’t get the necessary classes to graduate


California schools are always a target, but the fact is they provide an affordable accessible higher education, and are a critical tool for social mobility while also being top research institutes.

They are not, and never have been, plush, roll out the red carpet institutions.
However you will graduate with little debt and receive a pretty outstanding education. If you need to be hand held, they’re probably not the right school.

In fact it’s very against the culture to want to be hand held. Try telling the Berkeley subreddit that you want to have something timely done, and they’ll mock you for being entitled. It’s a culture that embraces being independent and challenged to defend for yourself.


exactly. I attended a SLAC at the same time my sister and brother were at CAL. I’ll always remember watching my sister go through the insane process of trying to register for classes. Meanwhile, I got sick on the day of registration and was unable to complete my forms. The next day I got a call from the Registrar telling me she had signed me up for everything I wanted, even contacting professors to get approval as needed!


This is a reminder that many LAC are $90k and UCLA is about $38k. In fact, many students attend for far less thanks to generous need-based grants and scholarships.

It’s a public university. It’s messy but it works. UCLA is a gorgeous vibrant campus with guaranteed housing all four years, a feat in a city with a housing crisis.

The food is amazing, the weather is perfect and students have access to events, arts, world-renowned speakers, sports and culture. There is something for everyone. Most students get into classes they need, eventually. I give you that customer service sucks and it’s an area that needs improvement.

But it’s a pretty special place to be otherwise.




“Most…eventually.” That’s the best you can do?


I’m sorry, what’s better? Attending a school in the middle of nowhere with 1,800 kids like high school? No thanks.

I guess you must've gone to exeter if you think the average rural lac experience is "like high school"
Anonymous
Adequate system for those trapped in CA by why anyone would go there from another state is mind boggling.
Anonymous
Didn't read the thread but can assure you: higher ed staff is a mess. They are underpaid, undervalued, high turnover, constant churn and admin dysfunction. It's like this at virtually every school. Don't worry, just grit your teeth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Adequate system for those trapped in CA by why anyone would go there from another state is mind boggling.


Trapped in California? Economic engine of the country, best weather, fewest small-minded dipshits who think living in a hellscape like the mid-Atlantic region is a blessing, but definitely a trap because pikers like you can’t pay afford to pay state income taxes or can’t understand that when an one of your kind says that everyone in California is transgender or that every street in San Francisco has fecal matter paving, its boogeyman hyperbole to make themselves feel better because they can’t afford coastal real estate in California even if they time-shared it.
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