To those born and/or living on the coasts, do you perceive Chicago to be "unsophisticated"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s full of obnoxious state school hicks who grew up <300 miles away and are scared to move more than a few hour drive from hometown. It’s also on the decline, so much so that Nashville is eating its lunch as a middle class weekend vacation destination. Sophisticated people flee Chicago and never go back, ex Obamas.

Imagine being so unsophisticated yourself that you think 300 miles is a few hours in the car while trying to crap on everyone who lives in one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country.

Do you know what <300 miles means? Look where the Big Ten universities are located. Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan and Michigan State, Ohio State, plus all of the lower tier state schools in that region. For all the bumpkin midwits 30 to 300 miles away from Chicago, it's easy to move there after college with your high school friends. Mom and dad are just a car drive away. In contrast, moving to the West Coast or the District, New York or Boston requires guts, a better job, and more ambition.

Here we have it, folks: the epitome of cosmopolitan sophistication. May we all aspire to meet your standards.

+a million. This sounds like the same poster who starts threads to bash the Universities of Michigan and Wisconsin. She needs to show us where the Midwest hurt her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's in the midwest. It's land locked. I would never be able to live there.

Da Bears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s full of obnoxious state school hicks who grew up <300 miles away and are scared to move more than a few hour drive from hometown. It’s also on the decline, so much so that Nashville is eating its lunch as a middle class weekend vacation destination. Sophisticated people flee Chicago and never go back, ex Obamas.

Imagine being so unsophisticated yourself that you think 300 miles is a few hours in the car while trying to crap on everyone who lives in one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country.

Do you know what <300 miles means? Look where the Big Ten universities are located. Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan and Michigan State, Ohio State, plus all of the lower tier state schools in that region. For all the bumpkin midwits 30 to 300 miles away from Chicago, it's easy to move there after college with your high school friends. Mom and dad are just a car drive away. In contrast, moving to the West Coast or the District, New York or Boston requires guts, a better job, and more ambition.

My now wife and I moved from Chicago to DC after college. It took a U-Haul and a bit of driving. Neither one of us had good jobs, and we've never had much ambition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A work colleague based in Manhattan on zoom earlier today called it a gorgeous city "but unfortunately, it's rather unsophisticated." Others on the zoom nodded and chuckled in agreement, including people from Chicago who now live elsewhere.

People in Manhattan think anyone not in Manhattan are unsophisticated rubes. So it’s more about them than it is about Chicago.

Idk I'm from Manhattan and I have never heard a Manhattanite talk shit about Chicago. If anything they tend to be surprised by how big it is and how it feels like a "real city" like NYC plus love the dining options/jazz clubs/lake, etc. I also don't the insecurity coming out of Chicago that you see with Boston and DC. Like they're just running a different race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest reason I couldn’t live in Chicago is the winters. I have never thought of whether it is “sophisticated” or not. It has great commuter rails and nice suburbs. I wish DC had these things. Though it also has its rust belt parts, which aren’t awesome.

The "L" trains are not safe anymore. Full of random crime, drug addicts, feces, sexual perverts, rap music being blasted from speaker phones and bluetooth speakers, and violent teens taunting yuppies for kicks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A work colleague based in Manhattan on zoom earlier today called it a gorgeous city "but unfortunately, it's rather unsophisticated." Others on the zoom nodded and chuckled in agreement, including people from Chicago who now live elsewhere.

People in Manhattan think anyone not in Manhattan are unsophisticated rubes. So it’s more about them than it is about Chicago.

Idk I'm from Manhattan and I have never heard a Manhattanite talk shit about Chicago. If anything they tend to be surprised by how big it is and how it feels like a "real city" like NYC plus love the dining options/jazz clubs/lake, etc. I also don't the insecurity coming out of Chicago that you see with Boston and DC. Like they're just running a different race.

Ahem. It's blues. Chicago is a blues town.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s full of obnoxious state school hicks who grew up <300 miles away and are scared to move more than a few hour drive from hometown. It’s also on the decline, so much so that Nashville is eating its lunch as a middle class weekend vacation destination. Sophisticated people flee Chicago and never go back, ex Obamas.

Imagine being so unsophisticated yourself that you think 300 miles is a few hours in the car while trying to crap on everyone who lives in one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country.

Do you know what <300 miles means? Look where the Big Ten universities are located. Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan and Michigan State, Ohio State, plus all of the lower tier state schools in that region. For all the bumpkin midwits 30 to 300 miles away from Chicago, it's easy to move there after college with your high school friends. Mom and dad are just a car drive away. In contrast, moving to the West Coast or the District, New York or Boston requires guts, a better job, and more ambition.

My now wife and I moved from Chicago to DC after college. It took a U-Haul and a bit of driving. Neither one of us had good jobs, and we've never had much ambition.

Took more balls than staying in Chicago with all your college and high school friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a guy in medicine who turned down a job offer in Chicago with an eye-popping bump in comp to remain in Boston. He said Chicago felt isolated. Very Midwest. Very cliquish and full of Big Ten state school alums. Accent is also nails on a chalkboard.

I guy from Boston said this about the Chicago accent? You're kidding, right? Boston? Bahh-stin?

He is not from Boston, he works in Boston. Boston is a full of transplants from all over, Chicago is full of Midwest hicks.

There is a gorgeous influencer in Chicago my daughter follows. She went to USC for college and then back to Chicago to begin her career. She is so pretty, blonde... but then she opens her mouth and has an awful Chicago/Midwest accent.

Found her.
https://www.instagram.com/grace.andrews/

[Anonymous]

The entire Midwest is unsophisticated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a guy in medicine who turned down a job offer in Chicago with an eye-popping bump in comp to remain in Boston. He said Chicago felt isolated. Very Midwest. Very cliquish and full of Big Ten state school alums. Accent is also nails on a chalkboard.

I guy from Boston said this about the Chicago accent? You're kidding, right? Boston? Bahh-stin?

He is not from Boston, he works in Boston. Boston is a full of transplants from all over, Chicago is full of Midwest hicks.

There is a gorgeous influencer in Chicago my daughter follows. She went to USC for college and then back to Chicago to begin her career. She is so pretty, blonde... but then she opens her mouth and has an awful Chicago/Midwest accent.

Found her.
https://www.instagram.com/grace.andrews/

That’s not a Chicago accent. It’s more Lake Erie/Toledo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s full of obnoxious state school hicks who grew up <300 miles away and are scared to move more than a few hour drive from hometown. It’s also on the decline, so much so that Nashville is eating its lunch as a middle class weekend vacation destination. Sophisticated people flee Chicago and never go back, ex Obamas.

Imagine being so unsophisticated yourself that you think 300 miles is a few hours in the car while trying to crap on everyone who lives in one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country.

Do you know what <300 miles means? Look where the Big Ten universities are located. Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan and Michigan State, Ohio State, plus all of the lower tier state schools in that region. For all the bumpkin midwits 30 to 300 miles away from Chicago, it's easy to move there after college with your high school friends. Mom and dad are just a car drive away. In contrast, moving to the West Coast or the District, New York or Boston requires guts, a better job, and more ambition.

I am from Ohio and went to Ohio State. DC is closer to my hometown than Chicago. I only moved to DC because of a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a guy in medicine who turned down a job offer in Chicago with an eye-popping bump in comp to remain in Boston. He said Chicago felt isolated. Very Midwest. Very cliquish and full of Big Ten state school alums. Accent is also nails on a chalkboard.

I guy from Boston said this about the Chicago accent? You're kidding, right? Boston? Bahh-stin?

He is not from Boston, he works in Boston. Boston is a full of transplants from all over, Chicago is full of Midwest hicks.

There is a gorgeous influencer in Chicago my daughter follows. She went to USC for college and then back to Chicago to begin her career. She is so pretty, blonde... but then she opens her mouth and has an awful Chicago/Midwest accent.

Found her.
https://www.instagram.com/grace.andrews/

That’s not a Chicago accent. It’s more Lake Erie/Toledo.

Almost positive she was born and raised in Chicago. USC in LA for four years of college. Then back to Chicago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The biggest reason I couldn’t live in Chicago is the winters. I have never thought of whether it is “sophisticated” or not. It has great commuter rails and nice suburbs. I wish DC had these things. Though it also has its rust belt parts, which aren’t awesome.

The "L" trains are not safe anymore. Full of random crime, drug addicts, feces, sexual perverts, rap music being blasted from speaker phones and bluetooth speakers, and violent teens taunting yuppies for kicks.

As opposed to DC Metro or NYC transit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Chicago and lived there my first 40 years. Trust me when I say, no one in Chicago cares one little bit what anyone in NY or anywhere in California thinks of them.

Yeah they do. It’s incessant and pathetic.

I’m a New Yorker who has lived near Chicago for 26 years. The subject of NY or SF never comes up except regarding sports.

I’d say this is because in Chicago they don’t talk about other cities or regions they way they do in DC, for example. They are provincial and comfortable with that. But I do hear lots of talk about Michigan and Wisconsin. They vacation there and/or grew up there.

And in DC, there is similar talk about Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Your point? [/quote
That’s not true at all. I’ve lived in both areas and hear near Chicago all I hear about is Wisconsin, Michigan, and “the Lake.” Every single day. I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve heard about NJ or Pennsylvania in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Chicago and lived there my first 40 years. Trust me when I say, no one in Chicago cares one little bit what anyone in NY or anywhere in California thinks of them.

Yeah they do. It’s incessant and pathetic.

I’m a New Yorker who has lived near Chicago for 26 years. The subject of NY or SF never comes up except regarding sports.

I’d say this is because in Chicago they don’t talk about other cities or regions they way they do in DC, for example. They are provincial and comfortable with that. But I do hear lots of talk about Michigan and Wisconsin. They vacation there and/or grew up there.

And in DC, there is similar talk about Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Your point?

That’s not true at all. I’ve lived in both areas and hear near Chicago all I hear about is Wisconsin, Michigan, and “the Lake.” Every single day. I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve heard about NJ or Pennsylvania in DC.