Is suburban living considered a failure?

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

There are Targets all over Nw dc. Try again

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

I live in DC

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

To be clear, we afforded the city and lived here 14 years but intentionally took on a substantially higher mortgage payment with current rates on a SFH outside the city for a better lifestyle.

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Moron. No question about it.

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

To be clear, we afforded the city and lived here 14 years but intentionally took on a substantially higher mortgage payment with current rates on a SFH outside the city for a better lifestyle.

*rolling eyes* am I supposed to be impressed?

Why are you offended at everything, so much so that you can't keep you offendedness ground in reality? Her point in bringing up the higher mortgage payment is because someone said people only move to suburbs because they are cheaper. Her point is that she wanted to move to the suburbs so much that she was willing to pay more for it.

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems theres just one poster in this thread, and he keeps responding to everyone that lives in the suburbs with massive vitriol.

Why you mad dude? Guessing you’re like 32 and happy you made it in the Big City? Why the anger at everyone in the suburbs? Did your gfriend dump you because you have a dump in Petworth, and marry old money in McLean?

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Anonymous wrote:It's the dream for most.

No. Definitely not.

The idea of being forced to drive everywhere, traffic jams, rage in the parking lots, rage on the sidelines of playing fields, rage in lines, racism, HOAs, severing social ties, monotony, etc makes me physically ill.

The parts of my life that would improve by moving to the suburbs are the parts of my life that I wish I could cut out (access to shopping malls, shorter commutes for insane kid's sports, car dealerships).

City dwellers don’t walk everywhere so stop lying
I haven’t been in a traffic jam since the last snow storm or hurricane and that was 5 cars stuck behind a fallen tree
Ever sidelines has crazy parents especially dc united clun, Gonzaga football, Georgetown basketball
More diverse in Germantown Md than most of dc
I have friends from grade school/hs/new neighborhoods/life… more likely to gather every weekend on someone’s deck than at a cramped bar,
Monotony is going to the same places within walking distance which is why you no longer walk everywhere

Some city dwellers really do walk everywhere. We have one car and only use it once or twice a week and one of those times is for my spouse to commute to a job... in the suburbs. We walk to our kid's school, the grocery store, the library, etc. Also lots of biking and public transportation.

I'm not anti-suburb but we do actually worry that if we moved we'd wind up spending a thousand percent more time in the car. We're trying to find a suburb where this wouldn't be the case as we'd love to have more space and get away from the crime issues but we are never going to come anywhere close to the level of convenience and walkability we have now.

Keep in mind that means you can actually afford to live in a walkable area of DC. Finding that with space for two kids generally requires the ability to purchase very expensive housing.

I lived in DV but could not afford an area like that. We could walk to a playground and maybe the library and a 7-11. We drove everywhere all the time.

So unable to pay for the urban life, you retreated to the burbs.

Yes but also we lived next to a hoarder with a roach infestation and other major nuisances I don't go into. So you can say there were multiple factors like never ever ever ever ever wanting to share walls with a neighbor again.

Oh and a large yard is blissful especially as someone who adores gardening... Especially without a rat parade and where I can drink my coffee and stare at my plants in peace without excessive litter or people constantly walking by smoking pot which stinks

My dc row house also has a garden? And I have a community garden plot and I have hundreds of acres of parkland.

LOL! Your garden wouldn’t even be the size of one of my flower beds.

And responses like this are why I want nothing to do with suburban “culture”. Desperate consumerism to prove you’re better than the people in the ticky tack box next door who you hate.

DP. Your response makes no sense. It's a fact that a DC row house garden is likely not going to be the same size as a suburban one, and a gardener might not be satisfied with that limitation. Has nothing to do with consumerism, but with what each of us enjoys doing with our spare time. As a gardener, I enjoy puttering around in my garden, listening to bird song, providing habitat for them, and all in relative peace and quiet. Other people might find that boring.

I don’t garden to impress anyone. I don’t care how big the size of your garden is. The tit for tat, keep up with the jones mentality is what is so gross.

Maybe you didn’t think of that but it’s telling that your initial response to hearing that someone has a garden they enjoy is to insist yours is bigger.

Not that poster, but it's a valid point that if one loves to garden, a bigger yard than a row house yard may be preferable. I posted earlier about enjoying a larger yard for gardening than what we had in front our row house, dealing with rats ruining vegetable plants (which can happen in the burbs but dear/rabbits better than rats), and community gardening didnt work for me.

I also hated being out front with my garden with neighbors constantly passing by.

I wasn't always into gardening, but once I got into it, felt frustrated with city gardening

That's cool And if you want lots of space to do lots of gardening, then moving somewhere with big plots is maybe a good idea.

But it's really absurd to think that people can't enjoy nice things, like gardening, just because they live in the city. What I really objected to is the immediate "mine is bigger" response.

Agree that gardening can certainly be done in the city. If I had time (I don't), I would have loved to volunteer with a guerilla gardening organization in DC. But really this whole thread is about people having different needs and preferences and priorities and one isn't better than the other.

Sure, but people from the suburbs seem so desperate for validation. I do not care if their garden is bigger—what kind of person would ever try to put someone else down over garden size?

The people from the suburbs are not seeking validation. They are just living. They are not in angst about others' choices as you are. you are the one who is so confused that some do not want to live in the city.

I don’t know, there is one poster on here who is rabid about the idea of anyone wanting to live near a metro station.

they are only responding to your posts. that is what everyone is doing, responding to the broad assumptions and stereotypes you are making.

No, they're trying to justify the decisions they made.

If you like living in a place like Fairfax, well... bless your heart. But don't pretend you're superior.

I don’t think any of the suburban people think they’re better. But since the thread literally implies living in the suburbs is a failure, I think some people are simply saying that they don’t “have” to live in the suburbs. They “choose” to. There are some posters that always say anyone that doesn’t live downtown can’t afford it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the dream for most.

No. Definitely not.

The idea of being forced to drive everywhere, traffic jams, rage in the parking lots, rage on the sidelines of playing fields, rage in lines, racism, HOAs, severing social ties, monotony, etc makes me physically ill.

The parts of my life that would improve by moving to the suburbs are the parts of my life that I wish I could cut out (access to shopping malls, shorter commutes for insane kid's sports, car dealerships).

City dwellers don’t walk everywhere so stop lying
I haven’t been in a traffic jam since the last snow storm or hurricane and that was 5 cars stuck behind a fallen tree
Ever sidelines has crazy parents especially dc united clun, Gonzaga football, Georgetown basketball
More diverse in Germantown Md than most of dc
I have friends from grade school/hs/new neighborhoods/life… more likely to gather every weekend on someone’s deck than at a cramped bar,
Monotony is going to the same places within walking distance which is why you no longer walk everywhere

Some city dwellers really do walk everywhere. We have one car and only use it once or twice a week and one of those times is for my spouse to commute to a job... in the suburbs. We walk to our kid's school, the grocery store, the library, etc. Also lots of biking and public transportation.

I'm not anti-suburb but we do actually worry that if we moved we'd wind up spending a thousand percent more time in the car. We're trying to find a suburb where this wouldn't be the case as we'd love to have more space and get away from the crime issues but we are never going to come anywhere close to the level of convenience and walkability we have now.

Keep in mind that means you can actually afford to live in a walkable area of DC. Finding that with space for two kids generally requires the ability to purchase very expensive housing.

I lived in DV but could not afford an area like that. We could walk to a playground and maybe the library and a 7-11. We drove everywhere all the time.

So unable to pay for the urban life, you retreated to the burbs.

Yes but also we lived next to a hoarder with a roach infestation and other major nuisances I don't go into. So you can say there were multiple factors like never ever ever ever ever wanting to share walls with a neighbor again.

Oh and a large yard is blissful especially as someone who adores gardening... Especially without a rat parade and where I can drink my coffee and stare at my plants in peace without excessive litter or people constantly walking by smoking pot which stinks

My dc row house also has a garden? And I have a community garden plot and I have hundreds of acres of parkland.

We had a front yard garden at our rowhouse but too tiny and the rats were so bad that we couldn't grow vegetables in our backyard. They came on the deck in BRIGHT DAYLIGHT to eat my herbs down to nubs. We had a community garden but it was a pain to manage our plot once I had kids. It's so much nicer to garden in peace in my own yard which isn't huge, but has plenty of space for the various plants my heart desires. And I deal with rabbits better than rats.

I also mentioned the living next to a hoarder/cockroach issue. There was more to that, but dear GOD, no more shared walls for us, never ever again.

Suburban bliss.

Yeah, puppy mills, pot farms and maga voters make great neighbors.

None of that impacts me personally living without shared walls. And we did also deal with pot smoke infiltrating through brick walls.

See you're trolling there as your're realllly trying to reach for counters.

“My community’s deep problems corroding our culture ‘Don’t affect me if I look away’” is a novel way to promote suburban life. Maybe it’s true but I feel like you’re painting a pretty grim picture of things.

"my community"--you say this as if I personalize everyone else's problems beyond advocating for public policy that helps people. I do not intend to live near people to help them solve their problems.

this is very sad.

No it is not. I do not need to intentionally live near people to solve their problems. Also, I can't solve everyone's problem anyway

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

To be clear, we afforded the city and lived here 14 years but intentionally took on a substantially higher mortgage payment with current rates on a SFH outside the city for a better lifestyle.

*rolling eyes* am I supposed to be impressed?

Doubt it, it's pretty clear you earn more, have much more expensive real estate and look down your nose on the poors and peons that can't afford your NW home. It's pretty clear you view anyone happier in the burbs as a sad sap who is beneath you.

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

To be clear, we afforded the city and lived here 14 years but intentionally took on a substantially higher mortgage payment with current rates on a SFH outside the city for a better lifestyle.

*rolling eyes* am I supposed to be impressed?

Why are you offended at everything, so much so that you can't keep you offendedness ground in reality? Her point in bringing up the higher mortgage payment is because someone said people only move to suburbs because they are cheaper. Her point is that she wanted to move to the suburbs so much that she was willing to pay more for it.

I'm not offended, I just asked if I was supposed to be wowed. But, good for her. And if she's found a community where bragging about how much you pay is what's valued, even better. Good luck to her. Hope it helps her...

She wasn't bragging.
But if you hate this website and think it is dominated by a bunch of women who have more money than you, young man, and that bothers you that they are not ashamed of that (but not proud, they just speak of their wealth matter of fact my as their reality), why are you here? To take them down a notch, to put them in their place?

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems theres just one poster in this thread, and he keeps responding to everyone that lives in the suburbs with massive vitriol.

Why you mad dude? Guessing you’re like 32 and happy you made it in the Big City? Why the anger at everyone in the suburbs? Did your gfriend dump you because you have a dump in Petworth, and marry old money in McLean?

Would "old money in McLean" be something you'd be envious of?

I'm not the one hysterically insisting that actually I'm very happy with my 2 hour commute, massive consumer debt and traffic jams. That's you suburban guys. Live where you want! I know where I love is better, but I don't care where you live!

If you and other density bros continue to convince yourselves that people who do not agree with you are just insane and stupid, you will convince yourself it is reasonable to override their preferences by any means necessary (totalitarianism, dictatorship, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems theres just one poster in this thread, and he keeps responding to everyone that lives in the suburbs with massive vitriol.

Why you mad dude? Guessing you’re like 32 and happy you made it in the Big City? Why the anger at everyone in the suburbs? Did your gfriend dump you because you have a dump in Petworth, and marry old money in McLean?

Would "old money in McLean" be something you'd be envious of?

I'm not the one hysterically insisting that actually I'm very happy with my 2 hour commute, massive consumer debt and traffic jams. That's you suburban guys. Live where you want! I know where I love is better, but I don't care where you live!

If you truly didn't care, you'd stop posting.

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Anonymous wrote:What a weird question. If I had more money, I’d live by Bethesda, not Rockville. I wouldn’t live in DC proper. I enjoy not getting shot or carjacked

Because of the fentanyl epidemic, most suburban areas are far more dangerous than urban areas.

Ever seen an open air drug market in the suburbs?

Weird that you think fentanyl is a suburban phenomenon.

I have. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target parking lot, wait about 15 minutes, you WILL see hand-to-hand sales. It's not as bad as rural areas, but it is bad. It's an epidemic that has no geographic boundary, but opiods reversed the traditional drug trends. It's messed up.

+1 there are absolutely suburbs with a lot more criminal activity than my frankly sleepy DC neighborhood. I go to a Target out in the burbs about once a month because there is nothing like that near my neighborhood in DC, and in the last few years it's gone continuously downhill and become quite seedy while my DC neighborhood is mostly high SES with booing retail and restaurants and only gets better.

It's really kind of a case by case situation.

Uh huh. You live in a very very rich area of DC. NW somewhere? Congratulations on the brag.

This is hardly representative and certainly not representative of most people who live in DC.

So, it's not the city is the problem, it's your financial inability to live here.

Oh, yes, I'm one of the poor city folk who can't afford your fancy real estate.

..and your fancy real estate is representative of all of DC including all of Northeast and EOTR, right??????

If you moved to the suburbs because you can't afford the city, it sounds like failure and not *checks notes* everything being totally awesome.

To be clear, we afforded the city and lived here 14 years but intentionally took on a substantially higher mortgage payment with current rates on a SFH outside the city for a better lifestyle.

*rolling eyes* am I supposed to be impressed?

Doubt it, it's pretty clear you earn more, have much more expensive real estate and look down your nose on the poors and peons that can't afford your NW home. It's pretty clear you view anyone happier in the burbs as a sad sap who is beneath you.

So, wait, is real estate in the burbs nicer and more expensive, or is DC nicer and more expensive. I can't keep up with you guys.

Try this: if you're actually happy and not at all concerned that people think you're a total failure for settling for your tickytack tract housing in the burbs, than own it and move along.

No one cares to make this comparison and it doesn't make sense to. People live where they want to (and where they can afford). I live in a non urban area. I do not care where people choose to live. I don't think about it. I have never said in my head gosh people should not live in cities they must hate it even if they say they don't.