Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Duke Ellington sanctioned cheating years ago.

Relax DC and Md. residents.


Duke Ellington is its own special clusterF*.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


Why did you think that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


No it’s not that cut and dry. Many long time DC families have been pushed into PG county, but many still live in other parts of DC. And everyone uses the address of the one NW house that’s still in the family name - whether they live in 20019 or across the line.

I’ve been offered those addresses more than once. It’s so common and accepted and there is zero stigma within the black community. And as a PP said, everyone setting policy in the DC government knows those folks and there is STRONG pressure (that has nothing to do with gentrifiers in Brookland) to turn a blind eye.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


Why did you think that?


Because people quite openly post here about the latter, and you can read about the former when they get convicted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


No it’s not that cut and dry. Many long time DC families have been pushed into PG county, but many still live in other parts of DC. And everyone uses the address of the one NW house that’s still in the family name - whether they live in 20019 or across the line.

I’ve been offered those addresses more than once. It’s so common and accepted and there is zero stigma within the black community. And as a PP said, everyone setting policy in the DC government knows those folks and there is STRONG pressure (that has nothing to do with gentrifiers in Brookland) to turn a blind eye.


If the political pressure to turn a blind eye is as strong as you say, this shouldn’t be happening. So how do you explain it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


No it’s not that cut and dry. Many long time DC families have been pushed into PG county, but many still live in other parts of DC. And everyone uses the address of the one NW house that’s still in the family name - whether they live in 20019 or across the line.

I’ve been offered those addresses more than once. It’s so common and accepted and there is zero stigma within the black community. And as a PP said, everyone setting policy in the DC government knows those folks and there is STRONG pressure (that has nothing to do with gentrifiers in Brookland) to turn a blind eye.


To get into what schools? Is this Deal/JR, or other ones?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


Why did you think that?


Because people quite openly post here about the latter, and you can read about the former when they get convicted.


The people who post here are not representative of the city at large.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


No it’s not that cut and dry. Many long time DC families have been pushed into PG county, but many still live in other parts of DC. And everyone uses the address of the one NW house that’s still in the family name - whether they live in 20019 or across the line.

I’ve been offered those addresses more than once. It’s so common and accepted and there is zero stigma within the black community. And as a PP said, everyone setting policy in the DC government knows those folks and there is STRONG pressure (that has nothing to do with gentrifiers in Brookland) to turn a blind eye.


If the political pressure to turn a blind eye is as strong as you say, this shouldn’t be happening. So how do you explain it?


This has been accepted for decades. Now there is one minor effort to look like the city cares about boundary fraud. Which is easy to get around if you indeed do have a close relationship with the person whose address you are using.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


No it’s not that cut and dry. Many long time DC families have been pushed into PG county, but many still live in other parts of DC. And everyone uses the address of the one NW house that’s still in the family name - whether they live in 20019 or across the line.

I’ve been offered those addresses more than once. It’s so common and accepted and there is zero stigma within the black community. And as a PP said, everyone setting policy in the DC government knows those folks and there is STRONG pressure (that has nothing to do with gentrifiers in Brookland) to turn a blind eye.


To get into what schools? Is this Deal/JR, or other ones?


To get into any school they want to get into. Every level. Any school they feel connected to because of long term family relationships / staff relationships.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you care about overcrowding at J-R, then you should support this effort.

It'll be interesting to see the results. Maybe it will make little difference, or maybe lots of people are unable to meet the burden of proof.


+1. DC is the only place I’ve ever lived where people routinely get upset when the prospect of enforcing rules and laws comes up. I don’t understand why this is, but this is why we can’t have nice things. I’m not IB for JR but the amount of Maryland plates I see dropping kids off at multiple schools in my neighborhood certainly warrants further attention.


There’s a small core of white UMC parents in DC committing boundary fraud who sincerely believe they are entitled to do it because they deserve the “good” school where other white kids go. They can’t accept a scenario where their actual economic status means that their neighborhood school (here or in MD or VA) is not “the best” school.


And there’s a much larger core of brown DC parents that sincerely believe their kids deserve to go to the schools they grew up in, but are now priced out of. Or fully appreciate the importance of getting their kids into a different peer group.

In a system based on luck and chance, I don’t judge anyone, regardless of their background, for making luck work in their favor. Fix the system then nobody will have to feel like they have to choose between their child’s education and playing by the rules.


I have never met white parents cheating the boundaries. I have met brown parents doing it. It's a sense of entitlement to going to school in areas they once lived in. This is why the boundary fraud has been tolerated for so long. There's some sympathy for the situation and desire for the school to be more diverse.


I thought the residency fraud issues are folks from PG county and the boundary ones are white parents who want to go to Deal/JR?


Why did you think that?


Because people quite openly post here about the latter, and you can read about the former when they get convicted.


The people who post here are not representative of the city at large.


No kidding! But you can see the schools that MD residents are frauding their way into, and it's not the schools that the UMC parents who post here are lying about where they live within DC to get into: https://oag.dc.gov/release/ag-racine-sues-six-md-parents-crackdown-residency.
Anonymous
People talk here about that "rent an apartment for 3 months" thing. I've never seen it or heard about it in real life.

I've have seen quite a few people actually move to change schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People talk here about that "rent an apartment for 3 months" thing. I've never seen it or heard about it in real life.

I've have seen quite a few people actually move to change schools.


I also haven't heard about it in real life. Though, why would people talk about it? I have, however, heard of people being reported for boundary fraud when they don't live where they say they live.
post reply Forum Index » DC Public and Public Charter Schools
Message Quick Reply
Go to: