Why are kids with extreme behavior issues being mainstreamed?

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will be done by the school. What if someone gets seriously injured or hospitalized next time? Your reluctance to involve police seems crazy to those of us who have dealt with this before.


Why do you keep bringing up the police? They can't do anything. You can't charge a fifth grader.


Not the PP but laws still apply to minors.


Not in Montgomery County.
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Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nothing will be done by the school. What if someone gets seriously injured or hospitalized next time? Your reluctance to involve police seems crazy to those of us who have dealt with this before.


Why do you keep bringing up the police? They can't do anything. You can't charge a fifth grader.


Not the PP but laws still apply to minors.


Not in Montgomery County.


I'd heard that schools were magical places where laws don't apply. Kids can commit felonies and MCPD will do nothing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


Op here. I want to clarify. He put the scissors against the other child and threatened him saying "I wanna f***ing kill you. This is attempted murder" and was pulled away by aide. He did not actually stab the other kid who is much bigger than him. I doubt that qualifies as attempted murder even for an NT kid.

At 10-11 years old, I believe he just needs placement elsewhere, and not a police report. Kids with these kind of behavior issues need self containment. There is a behavior support specialist listed on school website. Not sure if that person oversees all these SES kids or just this one kid.



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Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


I think they refuse to enforce laws in schools because they're still mad about the county eliminating the cushy SRO jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


We've never had anything like this at any of my kids schools but if such a thing happens, it's clear the kid does not belong in a regular classroom and puts others at risk.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



One of the many reasons we reluctantly went private . I just can’t risk DC’s safety.


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


I think they refuse to enforce laws in schools because they're still mad about the county eliminating the cushy SRO jobs.


It's Maryland law. There is only a small number of offenses that you can charge a child under 13 with under state law.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.


Kids much younger have followed through in schools across the country.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.


Kids much younger have followed through in schools across the country.


Ok? That still doesn't make this particular incident attempted murder. Surely you understand the difference, don't you?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.


Kids much younger have followed through in schools across the country.


Ok? That still doesn't make this particular incident attempted murder. Surely you understand the difference, don't you?


Close enough for me.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.


Kids much younger have followed through in schools across the country.


Ok? That still doesn't make this particular incident attempted murder. Surely you understand the difference, don't you?


Close enough for me.


Perhaps, but for anyone with a better grasp of reality, including the police and justice system, these are very different things.

Pop a xanax and go back to drinking your boxed wine.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.


Not the PP but this should be a serious wake up call. This child threatened the life of another. It isn't a joke. Next time they may not be so lucky.
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Anonymous wrote:A few SES kids came to my kid's ES this year. They all have shadows. One of them seems to be violent and it is causing anxiety in several kids in the class. This kid has tried lifting a 3rd grader by the neck before. Not sure if the 3rd grader's parents were notified.

Today was a whole new issue. At recess this SES kid ran to another kid in same class who is bigger than him, and tried to tackle him but SES shadow pulled him away. Then he ran to another kid half his size, put his arm around that kid's neck and started punching him in the cheek with other hand. The shadow ran again and pulled him away. My kid says the other kid was crying. After this the SES kid went to teacher's bathroom and knocked a painting that was there.

A few hours later SES kid ran into the class where the 1st child whom he tried to tackle was, went up to him, put a pair of scissors against him and told him "I wanna F'ing kill you. This is attempted murder". The shadow pulled him away. The new teacher started crying.

If I were the parent of any of these other children, I would raise a stink.

What is the purpose of having these kids with extreme behavior issues mainstreamed at the risk of causing fear in other students as well as teachers? Shouldn't they be in self contained classes? There are 2 other SES kids who are not aggressive so those kids being mainstreamed makes sense. But this does not.

My kid likes the school but does not feel safe when things like this happen.



I guess we've been lucky that our title 1 school doesn't have these issues.


That you are aware of


Schools tend to bury these issues and hope nobody contacts the police.


Why would the school care? If this was a high schooler, then yes, the police could investigate and potentially charge the child with a crime. But since we're talking about a fifth grader, there's no chargeable offense to investigate. Do these posters really no understand that?


Attempted murder sounds like a police issue to me.


You're unhinged. This wasn't attempted murder. Don't be ridiculous.


Kids much younger have followed through in schools across the country.


Ok? That still doesn't make this particular incident attempted murder. Surely you understand the difference, don't you?


Close enough for me.


Perhaps, but for anyone with a better grasp of reality, including the police and justice system, these are very different things.

Pop a xanax and go back to drinking your boxed wine.


I think we found the parents of the violent child. You can minimize it and make jokes if you want.
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