Salaried Employee - 8am Meeting - Personal Conflicts like working out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gen X person who generally goes "above and beyond" (in the negative sense of historically not making waves and in my 20s would have been there at 7 if someone told me to).

I think: the calendar should have been blocked for a personal commitment in advance. Following that, "personal appointment" should have been the stated reason. All else ok

So even though typical work day is 9-5, you’re supposed to block out your hours outside of your work day as personal time? That actually seems counterintuitive — do I need to mark every day at 6pm for family dinner and 10pm for bedtime?

Where do you work that a 7.5 hour workday is typical?

When exactly did standard workday become 9-530 or whatever? I mean we had a movie about 9-5 in the 80s…

I "joke" about this with my husband - working 8 to 6 (or later), what a way to make (something of) a living

If someone scheduled an 8 am meeting with me, I'd probably ask them if we could do it at a different time - or just propose a different time. If I didn't want to do that, and it were a one time thing, I'd probably just deal with it - and then, yeah, block off my calendar into eternity from then on in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they send the invite after 5, I won't even see it until 9AM.

Doesn’t your work email beep? It is drilled into me every night check work email for meetings. I also check it in morning.

My one job we had nearly all meetings between 730 am and 930 am or lunch time or after 430 pm.

We blocked 930 am to noon and 2pm to 430 pm as core work hours. Meetings were at non core work hours

I get 100+ work emails a day, so hell no my work email doesn't beep.

+1 I would lose my mind.

I check once at 8pm and then that's it for the night.

I check a bunch of times off hours but heck no I don't leave my notifications on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what industries people are in that they have, say, daily 8am in person calls. In a typical white collar office job, this isn’t going to work with anyone with kids, because they have to do drop off. Obviously some industries - like healthcare - start earlier in the day, and that’s just part of the deal when you go down that career path. But I’m curious what other workplaces are requiring this. Are these industries where those hours are common? Or do you work in a typical office, and your new boss was just an ass who scheduled weird times meetings?

I'm not currently in it, but years ago I worked in construction (administration, not physical labor.) We were expected at work at 7 am (the more senior people were actually there earlier) and 7:30 am meetings (in person) were common.

But presumably you wrapped up by 3:30 or whatever, right? Some of the early jobs i can think of: healthcare, construction, teaching, IT. Of course there would be calls at 8am in those industries, because the day ends earlier as well.

My day ended at 4, but I was pretty low level (basically secretarial and accounting type work.) The project manager, engineer, etc. always stayed later than I did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen X person who generally goes "above and beyond" (in the negative sense of historically not making waves and in my 20s would have been there at 7 if someone told me to).

I think: the calendar should have been blocked for a personal commitment in advance. Following that, "personal appointment" should have been the stated reason. All else ok

So even though typical work day is 9-5, you’re supposed to block out your hours outside of your work day as personal time? That actually seems counterintuitive — do I need to mark every day at 6pm for family dinner and 10pm for bedtime?

Where do you work that a 7.5 hour workday is typical?

When exactly did standard workday become 9-530 or whatever? I mean we had a movie about 9-5 in the 80s…

I "joke" about this with my husband - working 8 to 6 (or later), what a way to make (something of) a living

If someone scheduled an 8 am meeting with me, I'd probably ask them if we could do it at a different time - or just propose a different time. If I didn't want to do that, and it were a one time thing, I'd probably just deal with it - and then, yeah, block off my calendar into eternity from then on in.

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And if you have a personal obligation, just block it in your calendar, right? The whole issue with this post/thread is that someone overshared. Nobody cares if you are getting chemo, watching a child, at a barre classe, at an AA class or whatever you have going on personally. Just block it off and be generally flexible and available at other times. Anyone who pries would like a nice lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen X person who generally goes "above and beyond" (in the negative sense of historically not making waves and in my 20s would have been there at 7 if someone told me to).

I think: the calendar should have been blocked for a personal commitment in advance. Following that, "personal appointment" should have been the stated reason. All else ok

So even though typical work day is 9-5, you’re supposed to block out your hours outside of your work day as personal time? That actually seems counterintuitive — do I need to mark every day at 6pm for family dinner and 10pm for bedtime?

Yes. Its not hard. Outlook has a feature where you add your workday start and end time and it blocks out all non-work hours.

The bigger issue in many workplaces (including my husband’s very toxic former workplace) when people don’t GAF about your calendar block-outs and arrange meetings for whatever time works for them.

*declines meeting*

[Anonymous]

I work for private equity. They regularly schedule meetings late and weekend. If you can’t make it, you just say it, but otherwise you are probably working anyway. I’d rather meet and be able to move forward than have to wait until next 10am time slot. But again, if I can’t make it, I just say that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for private equity. They regularly schedule meetings late and weekend. If you can’t make it, you just say it, but otherwise you are probably working anyway. I’d rather meet and be able to move forward than have to wait until next 10am time slot. But again, if I can’t make it, I just say that.

Okay? That is a role where you make $500k+ — that is expected for that kind of role.

Someone worried about cancellation of a workout class they already paid for isn’t making that kind of money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work for private equity. They regularly schedule meetings late and weekend. If you can’t make it, you just say it, but otherwise you are probably working anyway. I’d rather meet and be able to move forward than have to wait until next 10am time slot. But again, if I can’t make it, I just say that.

Okay? That is a role where you make $500k+ — that is expected for that kind of role.

Someone worried about cancellation of a workout class they already paid for isn’t making that kind of money.

I’m a PP though not this PP..

I make 500k+ per year, have no problem with 8am calls, try to avoid scheduling them but will if necessary, and would have no qualms about declining a meeting because of a prepaid gym session and would absolutely not piss my money away and eat it just to take an 8am call.

It’s shocking to me how many, presumably salaried, people are on here with rigid no 8am call rules. If you want that sort of rigid adherence to a schedule, get an hourly job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for private equity. They regularly schedule meetings late and weekend. If you can’t make it, you just say it, but otherwise you are probably working anyway. I’d rather meet and be able to move forward than have to wait until next 10am time slot. But again, if I can’t make it, I just say that.

Okay? That is a role where you make $500k+ — that is expected for that kind of role.

Someone worried about cancellation of a workout class they already paid for isn’t making that kind of money.

I’m a PP though not this PP..

I make 500k+ per year, have no problem with 8am calls, try to avoid scheduling them but will if necessary, and would have no qualms about declining a meeting because of a prepaid gym session and would absolutely not piss my money away and eat it just to take an 8am call.

It’s shocking to me how many, presumably salaried, people are on here with rigid no 8am call rules. If you want that sort of rigid adherence to a schedule, get an hourly job.

You literally contradict yourself saying you would decline an 8am, yet critique people who also can’t take 8am calls. Most people are saying they can’t because it conflicts with their personal lives, just like you?

[Anonymous]

I would turn that in to Bring Your Child To Work Day, and show up at 7AM with my child.

Anonymous wrote:Pre pandemic, I worked at a government contracting firm in Tysons. They used to ask me, along with about 20 others, to show up for 7:00 a.m. meetings just because the director liked to start early. I pushed back, explaining that my daycare didn't even open until 7 and I had an hour-long commute. As a result, I was written up and scolded. I ended up quitting shortly after that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen X person who generally goes "above and beyond" (in the negative sense of historically not making waves and in my 20s would have been there at 7 if someone told me to).

I think: the calendar should have been blocked for a personal commitment in advance. Following that, "personal appointment" should have been the stated reason. All else ok

So even though typical work day is 9-5, you’re supposed to block out your hours outside of your work day as personal time? That actually seems counterintuitive — do I need to mark every day at 6pm for family dinner and 10pm for bedtime?

Where do you work that a 7.5 hour workday is typical?

When exactly did standard workday become 9-530 or whatever? I mean we had a movie about 9-5 in the 80s…

I "joke" about this with my husband - working 8 to 6 (or later), what a way to make (something of) a living

If someone scheduled an 8 am meeting with me, I'd probably ask them if we could do it at a different time - or just propose a different time. If I didn't want to do that, and it were a one time thing, I'd probably just deal with it - and then, yeah, block off my calendar into eternity from then on in.

+1
And if you have a personal obligation, just block it in your calendar, right? The whole issue with this post/thread is that someone overshared. Nobody cares if you are getting chemo, watching a child, at a barre classe, at an AA class or whatever you have going on personally. Just block it off and be generally flexible and available at other times. Anyone who pries would like a nice lawsuit.

This is it. The less information the better.

[Anonymous]

It works at both ends of the day. I worked for a pretentious ass who would schedule 1/2 meetings at 4:30 just to watch people who needs to leave at 5:00 to pick up kids squirm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would turn that in to Bring Your Child To Work Day, and show up at 7AM with my child.

Anonymous wrote:Pre pandemic, I worked at a government contracting firm in Tysons. They used to ask me, along with about 20 others, to show up for 7:00 a.m. meetings just because the director liked to start early. I pushed back, explaining that my daycare didn't even open until 7 and I had an hour-long commute. As a result, I was written up and scolded. I ended up quitting shortly after that.

We did that old job. Made the ladies bring kids on Saturdays and go pick up at childcare during week and bring them back to office

We worked 830 am to 7pm during week and 9-3 on Saturdays.

Magically all the ladies found childcare a few days in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meeting are 9-3 start times.

8 am or earlier and 4pm or later require checking for availability.

If you schedule at 5pm meeting with me I’ll be scheduling a 7am meeting with you.

And I will be ready at 6:55 am.

[Anonymous]

My company is spread across four times, India, UK, and both US coasts. We try to avoid early AM meetings, but with the timezones involved it isn't always easy. The earliest you can expect a meeting is 9AM on the west coast. If there is going to be an earlier AM meeting, it needs to be a customer emergency.