UGA vs UMD vs Wisconsin

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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Top 20 of 2600 colleges is top 1%. Top 120 is top 5%. How is that a distinction worth making?


It isn't-- no one really cares about undergrad schools unless you're at a TOP school (Ivy, Michigan, etc)


Michigan isn’t TOP. Berkeley and UCLA are tied for #1.


Top 20 or so. I meant Michigan as opposed to UGA Wisconsin UF etc


Nobody thinks Michigan/ Wisco is better than UGA or UF


Wisconsin is no Georgia
Georgia is no Florida
And Florida is definitely no Michigan!


What does this mean?


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I think she's ranking schools:

Lowest to highest-

Wisconsin
UGA
UF
Michigan

Maybe it's the crazy Wisconsin troll lol
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Top 20 of 2600 colleges is top 1%. Top 120 is top 5%. How is that a distinction worth making?


It isn't-- no one really cares about undergrad schools unless you're at a TOP school (Ivy, Michigan, etc)


Michigan isn’t TOP. Berkeley and UCLA are tied for #1.


Top 20 or so. I meant Michigan as opposed to UGA Wisconsin UF etc


Nobody thinks Michigan/ Wisco is better than UGA or UF


Wisconsin is no Georgia
Georgia is no Florida
And Florida is definitely no Michigan!


What does this mean?


+1


I think she's ranking schools:

Lowest to highest-

Wisconsin
UGA
UF
Michigan

Maybe it's the crazy Wisconsin troll lol


They are all top flagships so the ranking doesn’t matter.
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Definitely Wisconsin. Our child chose it over UGA and Miami and Syracuse. He is doing real estate there and it's the highest ranked real estate program in the country.
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Anonymous wrote:Definitely Wisconsin. Our child chose it over UGA and Miami and Syracuse. He is doing real estate there and it's the highest ranked real estate program in the country.



What did he like about the most? I know real estate is really good there. Is that why?
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Anonymous wrote:Definitely Wisconsin. Our child chose it over UGA and Miami and Syracuse. He is doing real estate there and it's the highest
ranked real estate program in the country.



Also was he direct admit to business school or pre-business? Its getting hard to get in the business school and they only give you one try.
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Who teaches undergrads at Wisconsin?


Mostly full professors. It would be useful if you're applying to graduate schools with one of the best professors in the country writing it. It should be noted in terms of recognition, Wisconsin still has more famous professors than Michigan does, thanks to the fact that many of these professors were hired in the 1980s and 90s (when Michigan entire college of LSA sucked).
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


If this is true, and you’ve supplied no data, it’s irrelevant for undergrads. The undergraduate students, however, are of the same caliber. Peer group is what matters for undergrads.


Not really, it's the professors who can change you and teach you in four years. After all, isn't that what you are paying for? Furthermore, Wisconsin students are smarter by every measurable standardized test score of admitted students (see wikipedia). Even if you reject all that information, if you check notable alumni, you will see Wisconsin is producing far more accomplished alumni.
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


If this is true, and you’ve supplied no data, it’s irrelevant for undergrads. The undergraduate students, however, are of the same caliber. Peer group is what matters for undergrads.


Not really, it's the professors who can change you and teach you in four years. After all, isn't that what you are paying for? Furthermore, Wisconsin students are smarter by every measurable standardized test score of admitted students (see wikipedia). Even if you reject all that information, if you check notable alumni, you will see Wisconsin is producing far more accomplished alumni.


Wait who are you comparing Wisconsin to?
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Who teaches undergrads at Wisconsin?


Mostly full professors. It would be useful if you're applying to graduate schools with one of the best professors in the country writing it. It should be noted in terms of recognition, Wisconsin still has more famous professors than Michigan does, thanks to the fact that many of these professors were hired in the 1980s and 90s (when Michigan entire college of LSA sucked).


Are you a professor at Wisconsin? This exact claim has been posted in several threads recently.
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


If this is true, and you’ve supplied no data, it’s irrelevant for undergrads. The undergraduate students, however, are of the same caliber. Peer group is what matters for undergrads.


Not really, it's the professors who can change you and teach you in four years. After all, isn't that what you are paying for? Furthermore, Wisconsin students are smarter by every measurable standardized test score of admitted students (see wikipedia). Even if you reject all that information, if you check notable alumni, you will see Wisconsin is producing far more accomplished alumni.


Wait who are you comparing Wisconsin to?


Presumably UMD and UGA, since those are the schools this thread is about.
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


If this is true, and you’ve supplied no data, it’s irrelevant for undergrads. The undergraduate students, however, are of the same caliber. Peer group is what matters for undergrads.


Not really, it's the professors who can change you and teach you in four years. After all, isn't that what you are paying for? Furthermore, Wisconsin students are smarter by every measurable standardized test score of admitted students (see wikipedia). Even if you reject all that information, if you check notable alumni, you will see Wisconsin is producing far more accomplished alumni.


Undergrad students don’t need famous professors to change and teach them. Do you really think the marginal differences between UW and UGA students are meaningful when compared to thousands of colleges? That is like the 1% arguing with each other about who is the most wealthy.
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Who teaches undergrads at Wisconsin?


Mostly full professors. It would be useful if you're applying to graduate schools with one of the best professors in the country writing it. It should be noted in terms of recognition, Wisconsin still has more famous professors than Michigan does, thanks to the fact that many of these professors were hired in the 1980s and 90s (when Michigan entire college of LSA sucked).


Are you a professor at Wisconsin? This exact claim has been posted in several threads recently.


I have a knowledge of academia; but you don't need to have knowledge of academia to understand that Michigan is a university built off of trade schools, not off of being a university. To understand this, simply compare Nobel laureates and notable alumni and their impact. With Michigan you never see any distinct schools of thought in their academics or Nobel laureates; their Nobel laureates come per chance in random, unrelated, fields. At Wisconsin, we see that their Nobel laureates and famous alumni come directly from school of thought in their actual university departments (like at Harvard or Berkeley). For example, from John Bascom influenced Lafollete (future governor and progressive), while also influencing Frederick Jackson Turner who, in turn, influenced several notable academics, progressives, and judges such as Merle Curti, Harvard Judge Henry Friendly, and the economist John Rogers Commons. Commons, in fact, produced several Nobel laureates under his tutelage, most famously Theodore Schultz. And don't think these schools of thought have no influence today. One of the most recent Pulitzer Prize winners was David Blight (UW alumnus) and student of Merle Curti (and thus of Turner and Bascom) and current professor at Yale.

The point is Michigan lacks this kind of structure at all; no schools of thought have ever emerged from there and their academic influence is forgettable. Any attempt by a Michigan booster to explain exactly why Michigan is such a good school eventually falls under a.) citing fluke contemporary rankings b.) law school. Neither of which Michigan can really take credit for (in terms of academics) as it's clear what's creating those things: a.) football b). rich out of state students

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Why is this about Michigan? That school is not being considered here.

The caliber of UGA students has improved tremendously. It is just as hard to get into as Wisconsin.
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Who teaches undergrads at Wisconsin?


Mostly full professors. It would be useful if you're applying to graduate schools with one of the best professors in the country writing it. It should be noted in terms of recognition, Wisconsin still has more famous professors than Michigan does, thanks to the fact that many of these professors were hired in the 1980s and 90s (when Michigan entire college of LSA sucked).


Are you a professor at Wisconsin? This exact claim has been posted in several threads recently.


I have a knowledge of academia; but you don't need to have knowledge of academia to understand that Michigan is a university built off of trade schools, not off of being a university. To understand this, simply compare Nobel laureates and notable alumni and their impact. With Michigan you never see any distinct schools of thought in their academics or Nobel laureates; their Nobel laureates come per chance in random, unrelated, fields. At Wisconsin, we see that their Nobel laureates and famous alumni come directly from school of thought in their actual university departments (like at Harvard or Berkeley). For example, from John Bascom influenced Lafollete (future governor and progressive), while also influencing Frederick Jackson Turner who, in turn, influenced several notable academics, progressives, and judges such as Merle Curti, Harvard Judge Henry Friendly, and the economist John Rogers Commons. Commons, in fact, produced several Nobel laureates under his tutelage, most famously Theodore Schultz. And don't think these schools of thought have no influence today. One of the most recent Pulitzer Prize winners was David Blight (UW alumnus) and student of Merle Curti (and thus of Turner and Bascom) and current professor at Yale.

The point is Michigan lacks this kind of structure at all; no schools of thought have ever emerged from there and their academic influence is forgettable. Any attempt by a Michigan booster to explain exactly why Michigan is such a good school eventually falls under a.) citing fluke contemporary rankings b.) law school. Neither of which Michigan can really take credit for (in terms of academics) as it's clear what's creating those things: a.) football b). rich out of state students



You sound unhinged
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Anonymous wrote:OP checking in- DC is down to UW Madison or UGA. visiting both again. Fingers crossed it's an easy choice.


UW is a better school, no real question there. UGA is in a better economic location however. That’s actually matters in the long wrong. What do you think powered Michigan ( Ford ) or Berkeley( Silicon Valley)?



Based on what? USWNR? It's 39 vs 47 lol


+1 UW and UGA are going to be the same academic caliber of peer group.


Impossible. UGA graduate school sucks now and forever. They have literally invested noting into their graduate schools, hoping to win talented UG students with football/weather/easy a classes. The professors at Wisconsin are just at another level between UMD and UGA; name me one UGA department ranked in the top 50. With Wisconsin, you can't find a department which is NOT ranked in the top 20.


Who teaches undergrads at Wisconsin?


Mostly full professors. It would be useful if you're applying to graduate schools with one of the best professors in the country writing it. It should be noted in terms of recognition, Wisconsin still has more famous professors than Michigan does, thanks to the fact that many of these professors were hired in the 1980s and 90s (when Michigan entire college of LSA sucked).


Are you a professor at Wisconsin? This exact claim has been posted in several threads recently.


I have a knowledge of academia; but you don't need to have knowledge of academia to understand that Michigan is a university built off of trade schools, not off of being a university. To understand this, simply compare Nobel laureates and notable alumni and their impact. With Michigan you never see any distinct schools of thought in their academics or Nobel laureates; their Nobel laureates come per chance in random, unrelated, fields. At Wisconsin, we see that their Nobel laureates and famous alumni come directly from school of thought in their actual university departments (like at Harvard or Berkeley). For example, from John Bascom influenced Lafollete (future governor and progressive), while also influencing Frederick Jackson Turner who, in turn, influenced several notable academics, progressives, and judges such as Merle Curti, Harvard Judge Henry Friendly, and the economist John Rogers Commons. Commons, in fact, produced several Nobel laureates under his tutelage, most famously Theodore Schultz. And don't think these schools of thought have no influence today. One of the most recent Pulitzer Prize winners was David Blight (UW alumnus) and student of Merle Curti (and thus of Turner and Bascom) and current professor at Yale.

The point is Michigan lacks this kind of structure at all; no schools of thought have ever emerged from there and their academic influence is forgettable. Any attempt by a Michigan booster to explain exactly why Michigan is such a good school eventually falls under a.) citing fluke contemporary rankings b.) law school. Neither of which Michigan can really take credit for (in terms of academics) as it's clear what's creating those things: a.) football b). rich out of state students



One doesn't have to be a Nobel laureate to know that "football" is the only word in this post that kids care about.
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