My two cents why Code Purple was never going to fly . . .

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You honestly don't understand how students are in school buildings. No, they don't need 184 days. The last two weeks are useless as it is and it has nothing to do with teachers and everything to do with students being mentally checked out. Just stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. You want free babysitting, we all know that, but please stop pretending you have any idea about academics.

That's exactly why we need to build in 184 days from the start-- so we don't end up having to tack on extra days before summer break.

If we could actually make use of make up days spread throughout winter/spring, then we could avoid that. But we're hearing increasingly ridiculous reasons why we can't use make-up days.

184 built in days are fine, but it's ALSO fine to not use them at the end of the year like other counties do if they aren't used as make-up days. You were insisting 184 should be used no matter what. Not rocket science.

This is a good example of why parents have gotten increasingly frustrated with schools and teachers. As two income households have gotten more common, schools have instituted policies and practices that are increasingly hostile to working parents. And some are completely nonsensical- like the pp suggesting we should schedule school days but then not use them.

As a two income households, you could afford to hire help for the day.

Again, the blatant hostility to working parents is part of why there's so much animosity towards teachers and district officials. It's not going to be a winning strategy for you long-term.

There is no hostility but your expectation others cater to your wants is the problem. Your kids are your responsibility. You manage weekends, holidays and summers, you can manage a few snow days. The majority of us figure it out, why can't you?

This discussion shows the variety of problems. As you, or another poster, pointed out, days tacked on to the end of the year end up being useless. If teachers, students and parents go into the year thinking or hoping that school will end on June 13, then any day past that point is not likely to be productive. If you think you need to plan for a week of snow days, it is better for everyone to go into the year knowing that they'll be there until June 20th (as an example).

The strange policies in Maryland already create problems. Summer child care programs don't start until a week after school ends because of how districts handle make-up days. Everyone would be able to plan much better if they went into the year knowing when school would end.

I don't see how that isn't obvious to you. Have you ever lived outside of Maryland?

Actually you are wrong. There are lots of camps that start the last week of MCPS school week or the week after. Mine is signed up for a camp right as school ends. They will be going to that camp. I paid a lot of money for it and they aren't missing it because other entitled parents cannot be bothered with a day or two of virtual.

You should look in the mirror when it comes to entitlement. You're saying you're going to refuse to send your kid to school on a day that was listed on the school calendar?

This is a very good example of why MoCo shouldn't schedule, and then unschedule, school days at the end of the year. People like the pp will think the calendar doesn't apply to them and will pull their kid out of school before the year is over.

Just wow. Parents are like you are exactly why I left MCPS for PGCPS. We implemented the extra four days with the opportunity to have them back at the end of the year if they werent used, YEARS ago. It wasn't an issue whatsoever. People planned accordingly with the knowledge by the time winter was over, if they'd have to get childcare for the four unused days. Not in Montgomery County-no, everything has to be an ISSUE. Parents have to complain about every single thing. MCPS has its faults but no wonder they cant get anything done, seriously. The majority of parents are insufferable. Teachers, it's worth the pay cut to look at other counties. I promise you, there are sane parents elsewhere.

If you set a calendar I expect you (MCPS) to stick with it. We make plans around that calendar. We are in 2024. There are alternatives like virtual and if MCPS chooses not to use them, it's on them. Lots of families will have conflicts. Those with travel plans, camps, summer school, students with jobs and internships, divorced families where a parent doesn't live close and gets the summers....

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/FY2024/0952.23_2023-24_TRADITIONAL_SchoolCalendar.pdf

This is in the calendar: "If the school year is disrupted by emergencies and schools are closed three or more days, dates identified as possible make-up instructional days include: November 1, 2023; January 29, March 25-26, April 10, April 22, June 14 and June 17–18, 2024."

If you scheduled something for those days, that's on you (you). Make your plans around the whole calendar.

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You honestly don't understand how students are in school buildings. No, they don't need 184 days. The last two weeks are useless as it is and it has nothing to do with teachers and everything to do with students being mentally checked out. Just stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. You want free babysitting, we all know that, but please stop pretending you have any idea about academics.

That's exactly why we need to build in 184 days from the start-- so we don't end up having to tack on extra days before summer break.

If we could actually make use of make up days spread throughout winter/spring, then we could avoid that. But we're hearing increasingly ridiculous reasons why we can't use make-up days.

184 built in days are fine, but it's ALSO fine to not use them at the end of the year like other counties do if they aren't used as make-up days. You were insisting 184 should be used no matter what. Not rocket science.

This is a good example of why parents have gotten increasingly frustrated with schools and teachers. As two income households have gotten more common, schools have instituted policies and practices that are increasingly hostile to working parents. And some are completely nonsensical- like the pp suggesting we should schedule school days but then not use them.

As a two income households, you could afford to hire help for the day.

Again, the blatant hostility to working parents is part of why there's so much animosity towards teachers and district officials. It's not going to be a winning strategy for you long-term.

There is no hostility but your expectation others cater to your wants is the problem. Your kids are your responsibility. You manage weekends, holidays and summers, you can manage a few snow days. The majority of us figure it out, why can't you?

This discussion shows the variety of problems. As you, or another poster, pointed out, days tacked on to the end of the year end up being useless. If teachers, students and parents go into the year thinking or hoping that school will end on June 13, then any day past that point is not likely to be productive. If you think you need to plan for a week of snow days, it is better for everyone to go into the year knowing that they'll be there until June 20th (as an example).

The strange policies in Maryland already create problems. Summer child care programs don't start until a week after school ends because of how districts handle make-up days. Everyone would be able to plan much better if they went into the year knowing when school would end.

I don't see how that isn't obvious to you. Have you ever lived outside of Maryland?

Actually you are wrong. There are lots of camps that start the last week of MCPS school week or the week after. Mine is signed up for a camp right as school ends. They will be going to that camp. I paid a lot of money for it and they aren't missing it because other entitled parents cannot be bothered with a day or two of virtual.

You should look in the mirror when it comes to entitlement. You're saying you're going to refuse to send your kid to school on a day that was listed on the school calendar?

This is a very good example of why MoCo shouldn't schedule, and then unschedule, school days at the end of the year. People like the pp will think the calendar doesn't apply to them and will pull their kid out of school before the year is over.

Just wow. Parents are like you are exactly why I left MCPS for PGCPS. We implemented the extra four days with the opportunity to have them back at the end of the year if they werent used, YEARS ago. It wasn't an issue whatsoever. People planned accordingly with the knowledge by the time winter was over, if they'd have to get childcare for the four unused days. Not in Montgomery County-no, everything has to be an ISSUE. Parents have to complain about every single thing. MCPS has its faults but no wonder they cant get anything done, seriously. The majority of parents are insufferable. Teachers, it's worth the pay cut to look at other counties. I promise you, there are sane parents elsewhere.

If you set a calendar I expect you (MCPS) to stick with it. We make plans around that calendar. We are in 2024. There are alternatives like virtual and if MCPS chooses not to use them, it's on them. Lots of families will have conflicts. Those with travel plans, camps, summer school, students with jobs and internships, divorced families where a parent doesn't live close and gets the summers....

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/FY2024/0952.23_2023-24_TRADITIONAL_SchoolCalendar.pdf

This is in the calendar: "If the school year is disrupted by emergencies and schools are closed three or more days, dates identified as possible make-up instructional days include: November 1, 2023; January 29, March 25-26, April 10, April 22, June 14 and June 17–18, 2024."

If you scheduled something for those days, that's on you (you). Make your plans around the whole calendar.

If they cannot be bothered doing virtual, I cannot be bothered with the extended school year.

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You honestly don't understand how students are in school buildings. No, they don't need 184 days. The last two weeks are useless as it is and it has nothing to do with teachers and everything to do with students being mentally checked out. Just stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. You want free babysitting, we all know that, but please stop pretending you have any idea about academics.

That's exactly why we need to build in 184 days from the start-- so we don't end up having to tack on extra days before summer break.

If we could actually make use of make up days spread throughout winter/spring, then we could avoid that. But we're hearing increasingly ridiculous reasons why we can't use make-up days.

184 built in days are fine, but it's ALSO fine to not use them at the end of the year like other counties do if they aren't used as make-up days. You were insisting 184 should be used no matter what. Not rocket science.

This is a good example of why parents have gotten increasingly frustrated with schools and teachers. As two income households have gotten more common, schools have instituted policies and practices that are increasingly hostile to working parents. And some are completely nonsensical- like the pp suggesting we should schedule school days but then not use them.

As a two income households, you could afford to hire help for the day.

Again, the blatant hostility to working parents is part of why there's so much animosity towards teachers and district officials. It's not going to be a winning strategy for you long-term.

There is no hostility but your expectation others cater to your wants is the problem. Your kids are your responsibility. You manage weekends, holidays and summers, you can manage a few snow days. The majority of us figure it out, why can't you?

This discussion shows the variety of problems. As you, or another poster, pointed out, days tacked on to the end of the year end up being useless. If teachers, students and parents go into the year thinking or hoping that school will end on June 13, then any day past that point is not likely to be productive. If you think you need to plan for a week of snow days, it is better for everyone to go into the year knowing that they'll be there until June 20th (as an example).

The strange policies in Maryland already create problems. Summer child care programs don't start until a week after school ends because of how districts handle make-up days. Everyone would be able to plan much better if they went into the year knowing when school would end.

I don't see how that isn't obvious to you. Have you ever lived outside of Maryland?

Actually you are wrong. There are lots of camps that start the last week of MCPS school week or the week after. Mine is signed up for a camp right as school ends. They will be going to that camp. I paid a lot of money for it and they aren't missing it because other entitled parents cannot be bothered with a day or two of virtual.

You should look in the mirror when it comes to entitlement. You're saying you're going to refuse to send your kid to school on a day that was listed on the school calendar?

This is a very good example of why MoCo shouldn't schedule, and then unschedule, school days at the end of the year. People like the pp will think the calendar doesn't apply to them and will pull their kid out of school before the year is over.

Just wow. Parents are like you are exactly why I left MCPS for PGCPS. We implemented the extra four days with the opportunity to have them back at the end of the year if they werent used, YEARS ago. It wasn't an issue whatsoever. People planned accordingly with the knowledge by the time winter was over, if they'd have to get childcare for the four unused days. Not in Montgomery County-no, everything has to be an ISSUE. Parents have to complain about every single thing. MCPS has its faults but no wonder they cant get anything done, seriously. The majority of parents are insufferable. Teachers, it's worth the pay cut to look at other counties. I promise you, there are sane parents elsewhere.

If you set a calendar I expect you (MCPS) to stick with it. We make plans around that calendar. We are in 2024. There are alternatives like virtual and if MCPS chooses not to use them, it's on them. Lots of families will have conflicts. Those with travel plans, camps, summer school, students with jobs and internships, divorced families where a parent doesn't live close and gets the summers....

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/FY2024/0952.23_2023-24_TRADITIONAL_SchoolCalendar.pdf

This is in the calendar: "If the school year is disrupted by emergencies and schools are closed three or more days, dates identified as possible make-up instructional days include: November 1, 2023; January 29, March 25-26, April 10, April 22, June 14 and June 17–18, 2024."

If you scheduled something for those days, that's on you (you). Make your plans around the whole calendar.

If they cannot be bothered doing virtual, I cannot be bothered with the extended school year.

Let's not extend it. We've got five options that won't extend the school year. The spring break days aren't ideal, but the other three days are fine.

People put up such a ridiculous fight that we should just schedule school on all three so m so we (probably) won't have to argue about this again.

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You honestly don't understand how students are in school buildings. No, they don't need 184 days. The last two weeks are useless as it is and it has nothing to do with teachers and everything to do with students being mentally checked out. Just stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. You want free babysitting, we all know that, but please stop pretending you have any idea about academics.

That's exactly why we need to build in 184 days from the start-- so we don't end up having to tack on extra days before summer break.

If we could actually make use of make up days spread throughout winter/spring, then we could avoid that. But we're hearing increasingly ridiculous reasons why we can't use make-up days.

184 built in days are fine, but it's ALSO fine to not use them at the end of the year like other counties do if they aren't used as make-up days. You were insisting 184 should be used no matter what. Not rocket science.

This is a good example of why parents have gotten increasingly frustrated with schools and teachers. As two income households have gotten more common, schools have instituted policies and practices that are increasingly hostile to working parents. And some are completely nonsensical- like the pp suggesting we should schedule school days but then not use them.

As a two income households, you could afford to hire help for the day.

Again, the blatant hostility to working parents is part of why there's so much animosity towards teachers and district officials. It's not going to be a winning strategy for you long-term.

There is no hostility but your expectation others cater to your wants is the problem. Your kids are your responsibility. You manage weekends, holidays and summers, you can manage a few snow days. The majority of us figure it out, why can't you?

This discussion shows the variety of problems. As you, or another poster, pointed out, days tacked on to the end of the year end up being useless. If teachers, students and parents go into the year thinking or hoping that school will end on June 13, then any day past that point is not likely to be productive. If you think you need to plan for a week of snow days, it is better for everyone to go into the year knowing that they'll be there until June 20th (as an example).

The strange policies in Maryland already create problems. Summer child care programs don't start until a week after school ends because of how districts handle make-up days. Everyone would be able to plan much better if they went into the year knowing when school would end.

I don't see how that isn't obvious to you. Have you ever lived outside of Maryland?

Actually you are wrong. There are lots of camps that start the last week of MCPS school week or the week after. Mine is signed up for a camp right as school ends. They will be going to that camp. I paid a lot of money for it and they aren't missing it because other entitled parents cannot be bothered with a day or two of virtual.

You should look in the mirror when it comes to entitlement. You're saying you're going to refuse to send your kid to school on a day that was listed on the school calendar?

This is a very good example of why MoCo shouldn't schedule, and then unschedule, school days at the end of the year. People like the pp will think the calendar doesn't apply to them and will pull their kid out of school before the year is over.

Just wow. Parents are like you are exactly why I left MCPS for PGCPS. We implemented the extra four days with the opportunity to have them back at the end of the year if they werent used, YEARS ago. It wasn't an issue whatsoever. People planned accordingly with the knowledge by the time winter was over, if they'd have to get childcare for the four unused days. Not in Montgomery County-no, everything has to be an ISSUE. Parents have to complain about every single thing. MCPS has its faults but no wonder they cant get anything done, seriously. The majority of parents are insufferable. Teachers, it's worth the pay cut to look at other counties. I promise you, there are sane parents elsewhere.

If you set a calendar I expect you (MCPS) to stick with it. We make plans around that calendar. We are in 2024. There are alternatives like virtual and if MCPS chooses not to use them, it's on them. Lots of families will have conflicts. Those with travel plans, camps, summer school, students with jobs and internships, divorced families where a parent doesn't live close and gets the summers....

Yes, let's follow the calendar, which identifie January 29, April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. And ones that don't impact spring break or summer vacation.

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You honestly don't understand how students are in school buildings. No, they don't need 184 days. The last two weeks are useless as it is and it has nothing to do with teachers and everything to do with students being mentally checked out. Just stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. You want free babysitting, we all know that, but please stop pretending you have any idea about academics.

That's exactly why we need to build in 184 days from the start-- so we don't end up having to tack on extra days before summer break.

If we could actually make use of make up days spread throughout winter/spring, then we could avoid that. But we're hearing increasingly ridiculous reasons why we can't use make-up days.

184 built in days are fine, but it's ALSO fine to not use them at the end of the year like other counties do if they aren't used as make-up days. You were insisting 184 should be used no matter what. Not rocket science.

This is a good example of why parents have gotten increasingly frustrated with schools and teachers. As two income households have gotten more common, schools have instituted policies and practices that are increasingly hostile to working parents. And some are completely nonsensical- like the pp suggesting we should schedule school days but then not use them.

As a two income households, you could afford to hire help for the day.

Again, the blatant hostility to working parents is part of why there's so much animosity towards teachers and district officials. It's not going to be a winning strategy for you long-term.

There is no hostility but your expectation others cater to your wants is the problem. Your kids are your responsibility. You manage weekends, holidays and summers, you can manage a few snow days. The majority of us figure it out, why can't you?

This discussion shows the variety of problems. As you, or another poster, pointed out, days tacked on to the end of the year end up being useless. If teachers, students and parents go into the year thinking or hoping that school will end on June 13, then any day past that point is not likely to be productive. If you think you need to plan for a week of snow days, it is better for everyone to go into the year knowing that they'll be there until June 20th (as an example).

The strange policies in Maryland already create problems. Summer child care programs don't start until a week after school ends because of how districts handle make-up days. Everyone would be able to plan much better if they went into the year knowing when school would end.

I don't see how that isn't obvious to you. Have you ever lived outside of Maryland?

Actually you are wrong. There are lots of camps that start the last week of MCPS school week or the week after. Mine is signed up for a camp right as school ends. They will be going to that camp. I paid a lot of money for it and they aren't missing it because other entitled parents cannot be bothered with a day or two of virtual.

You should look in the mirror when it comes to entitlement. You're saying you're going to refuse to send your kid to school on a day that was listed on the school calendar?

This is a very good example of why MoCo shouldn't schedule, and then unschedule, school days at the end of the year. People like the pp will think the calendar doesn't apply to them and will pull their kid out of school before the year is over.

Just wow. Parents are like you are exactly why I left MCPS for PGCPS. We implemented the extra four days with the opportunity to have them back at the end of the year if they werent used, YEARS ago. It wasn't an issue whatsoever. People planned accordingly with the knowledge by the time winter was over, if they'd have to get childcare for the four unused days. Not in Montgomery County-no, everything has to be an ISSUE. Parents have to complain about every single thing. MCPS has its faults but no wonder they cant get anything done, seriously. The majority of parents are insufferable. Teachers, it's worth the pay cut to look at other counties. I promise you, there are sane parents elsewhere.

If you set a calendar I expect you (MCPS) to stick with it. We make plans around that calendar. We are in 2024. There are alternatives like virtual and if MCPS chooses not to use them, it's on them. Lots of families will have conflicts. Those with travel plans, camps, summer school, students with jobs and internships, divorced families where a parent doesn't live close and gets the summers....

Yes, let's follow the calendar, which identifie January 29, April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. And ones that don't impact spring break or summer vacation.

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McKnight went on Fox earlier in the week and said the schools would go virtual on Friday.

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You honestly don't understand how students are in school buildings. No, they don't need 184 days. The last two weeks are useless as it is and it has nothing to do with teachers and everything to do with students being mentally checked out. Just stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. You want free babysitting, we all know that, but please stop pretending you have any idea about academics.

That's exactly why we need to build in 184 days from the start-- so we don't end up having to tack on extra days before summer break.

If we could actually make use of make up days spread throughout winter/spring, then we could avoid that. But we're hearing increasingly ridiculous reasons why we can't use make-up days.

184 built in days are fine, but it's ALSO fine to not use them at the end of the year like other counties do if they aren't used as make-up days. You were insisting 184 should be used no matter what. Not rocket science.

This is a good example of why parents have gotten increasingly frustrated with schools and teachers. As two income households have gotten more common, schools have instituted policies and practices that are increasingly hostile to working parents. And some are completely nonsensical- like the pp suggesting we should schedule school days but then not use them.

As a two income households, you could afford to hire help for the day.

Again, the blatant hostility to working parents is part of why there's so much animosity towards teachers and district officials. It's not going to be a winning strategy for you long-term.

There is no hostility but your expectation others cater to your wants is the problem. Your kids are your responsibility. You manage weekends, holidays and summers, you can manage a few snow days. The majority of us figure it out, why can't you?

This discussion shows the variety of problems. As you, or another poster, pointed out, days tacked on to the end of the year end up being useless. If teachers, students and parents go into the year thinking or hoping that school will end on June 13, then any day past that point is not likely to be productive. If you think you need to plan for a week of snow days, it is better for everyone to go into the year knowing that they'll be there until June 20th (as an example).

The strange policies in Maryland already create problems. Summer child care programs don't start until a week after school ends because of how districts handle make-up days. Everyone would be able to plan much better if they went into the year knowing when school would end.

I don't see how that isn't obvious to you. Have you ever lived outside of Maryland?

Actually you are wrong. There are lots of camps that start the last week of MCPS school week or the week after. Mine is signed up for a camp right as school ends. They will be going to that camp. I paid a lot of money for it and they aren't missing it because other entitled parents cannot be bothered with a day or two of virtual.

You should look in the mirror when it comes to entitlement. You're saying you're going to refuse to send your kid to school on a day that was listed on the school calendar?

This is a very good example of why MoCo shouldn't schedule, and then unschedule, school days at the end of the year. People like the pp will think the calendar doesn't apply to them and will pull their kid out of school before the year is over.

Just wow. Parents are like you are exactly why I left MCPS for PGCPS. We implemented the extra four days with the opportunity to have them back at the end of the year if they werent used, YEARS ago. It wasn't an issue whatsoever. People planned accordingly with the knowledge by the time winter was over, if they'd have to get childcare for the four unused days. Not in Montgomery County-no, everything has to be an ISSUE. Parents have to complain about every single thing. MCPS has its faults but no wonder they cant get anything done, seriously. The majority of parents are insufferable. Teachers, it's worth the pay cut to look at other counties. I promise you, there are sane parents elsewhere.

Sadly, no. My SIL thought that. Now, she’s redone the math long term, realized she’ll never earn what I earn in MCPS, and wishes she had stayed in MCPS and fought for saner working conditions.