Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.

Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.

You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?

[Anonymous]

A second? Huh? You're 40. At 42 IVF clinics won't see you...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would avoid surgery if possible.

+1 I had an unmedicated vaginal the first time and an unexpected C-section with my 2nd. The vaginal birth was so much easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.

Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.

You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?

Yes. I had a traumatic delivery. Ignored when I voiced concerns. Now I have the physical pain as a constant reminder of what I went through.

[Anonymous]

I’ve said it on numerous threads which are all the same. Heated discourse, personal anecdotes, but the data shows most women will have an uncomplicated vaginal delivery. But for those in the unlucky 2-3% who’ve had muscles torn off the bone that can’t be reattached and for which there is no cure - we’d prefer c-sections. I wasn’t even aware through all my research or appts during pregnancy that you tear so badly that no amount of stitching, surgery, or PT could repair it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.

Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.

You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?

Yeah, no. Source for this bullshit claim that 8% of c-section moms’ anesthesia doesn’t work?

[Anonymous]

Here is some information about pain during C-section.

https://www.asahq.org/standards-and-practice-parameters/statement-on-pain-during-cesarean-delivery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.

Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.

You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?

Yeah, no. Source for this bullshit claim that 8% of c-section moms’ anesthesia doesn’t work?

Not BS but not widely discussed. Women need to know the risks.

[Anonymous]

Here is another article.

https://www.self.com/story/pain-during-c-section

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is another article.

https://www.self.com/story/pain-during-c-section

Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.

The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another article.

https://www.self.com/story/pain-during-c-section

Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.

The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.

Some women feel numb on the skin but still feel visceral pain. They feel the surgery. It’s risky to put a pregnant woman under general anesthesia, the doctors let the mothers suffer because of the risk of general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another article.

https://www.self.com/story/pain-during-c-section

Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.

The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.

Some women feel numb on the skin but still feel visceral pain. They feel the surgery. It’s risky to put a pregnant woman under general anesthesia, the doctors let the mothers suffer because of the risk of general.

Again, the study measures "felt pain" by counting the number of patients who had their meds increased. No part of the study involved asking women if they felt pain a) at all or b) after the meds were increased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another article.

https://www.self.com/story/pain-during-c-section

Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.

The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.

Some women feel numb on the skin but still feel visceral pain. They feel the surgery. It’s risky to put a pregnant woman under general anesthesia, the doctors let the mothers suffer because of the risk of general.

Again, the study measures "felt pain" by counting the number of patients who had their meds increased. No part of the study involved asking women if they felt pain a) at all or b) after the meds were increased.

Typically women’s pain is down played during birth. Can you imagine a man having another type of surgery and feeling the pain? It wouldn’t fly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it on numerous threads which are all the same. Heated discourse, personal anecdotes, but the data shows most women will have an uncomplicated vaginal delivery. But for those in the unlucky 2-3% who’ve had muscles torn off the bone that can’t be reattached and for which there is no cure - we’d prefer c-sections. I wasn’t even aware through all my research or appts during pregnancy that you tear so badly that no amount of stitching, surgery, or PT could repair it.

It’s actually around 20 percent of women who experience levator ani avulsion from vaginal birth. It’s far more common than 2-3 percent. Some stats are even higher, over 1/3.

As someone who has this, there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t have issues with my body and that I don’t wish I had a c-section.

https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(23)02116-6/fulltext

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about vaginal birth, but I’ve had four c sections and still have fantastic sex