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Of course UVA, UMD, VA Tech are the most popular public schools in VA and MD. |
This is such an odd challenge on something that just doesn't matter! But the high stats kids at our school were the ones taking every AP class and honors class offered because if you were signed up for a regular class it was chaos and you'd be frustrated by misbehavior (and bored to death). We all knew each other. Like I said - we ALL went away except like 2 people. I'm sorry if you don't believe me. Then there were some kids who were in an AP or honors class here or there - or were getting good grades in the regular classes. Those were the kids I describe that either stayed at UMCP or within a one to two state drive. Why does this one example matter so much to you? I'm sure it's hard to imagine, as you probably were not a student in MCPS in the 80's at a low-tier HS. The world was very very different then and even at that school it changed within 5 years after we graduated - families with the high achievers started moving or going private instead of sending them to that school. (which is a shame) |
I am ONLY talking about the high stats kids - I made that clear from the start. I never said most kids from the school as a whole got on planes to go to college. I said "most high stats kids" did. Shoot - if you are talking about the school as a whole - there were plenty who didn't go to college after graduating HS. The point of my contribution to this thread is that these high stats kids - both traveled and often went to school in NE. But NOW they have their own kids who are NOT going to the NE. I'll also add that I went to school in the NE and all of my friends from that school that have kids in college, have kids that went south of where they currently live. My friends from Mass have kids in school in VA, MD, OH, CA and PA friends kids went to FL. |
You made the claim - if you want to be believed, the onus is on you to provide proof. And I don’t hate either of the schools mentioned! It’s just so obvious you’re a loony booster when you throw out nonsense but can’t back it up. |
Oh I get it now you got ticked off by Northeastern LOL |
It certainly wasn’t that way in NOVA publics 20 years ago. Most top kids who didn’t get into Ivies (which of course was most of them) didn’t go to other NE privates. They went to UVA or William & Mary. This isn’t anecdotal. The Post used to publish a list of where the valedictorians from local public and private schools were going to college. There were then (as there are now) multiple valedictorians in NOVA publics. I’d say being in that group is a good cut off for “high stats” kids. Here’s the list for Arlington and Alexandria publics and privates for 2004. As you’ll see, less than a handful went to non-Ivy privates north of Philadelphia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/07/08/public-high-school-valedictori/af5ed0f0-b7f6-4246-aab9-e5fd262ef93c/ |
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PP here. Here’s a link to the class of 2005 for the same schools. Same thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/06/23/valedictorians/7bea3f3e-7c38-4916-a8e1-2699687a0f42/ So, no, it’s just not the case that it used to be that a lot of the “high stats” kids in NOVA used to go north and then stopped. Maybe that happened in Maryland since Maryland doesn’t have UVA or William & Mary, but it was never a NOVA thing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/06/23/valedictorians/7bea3f3e-7c38-4916-a8e1-2699687a0f42/ |
Looks like it's the opposite. People used to stay put in their state flagships like UVA UMD. Now more people like to venture out to Northeast. Schools like Tufts, BC, BU, NEU are significantly more difficult to get in compared to similarly ranked schools elsewhere. |
Yea, it could be. I haven’t thought of it that way. |
| Part of this is the growth of southern cities as job centers compared to a generation ago. Back then Charlotte and Nashville and Austin and even Atlanta were regional towns that had a few transplants. Now they are major destinations. So you can go to an SEC-ish school and still get intern and job prospects. |
Still no citations, I see! You must be the wacko Northeastern booster. |
DP. You've posted this before. The link you provided is from 2004 (!!) - how on earth is this relevant to today? It also only shows Arlington schools. FCPS does NOT have valedictorians, and I don't think LCPS does either. |
NP here. I don't see any hate. PP has a definite point of view that may be in opposition to yours, but don't misconstrue or gaslight that that is somehow "hate." Good grief. |
| NP. DS from FCPS applied to a school in Cambridge and two in Boston. Denied, waitlisted and accepted. Decided to enroll at UMD. Offered a good chunk of merit but still about $15k more than UMD (received merit also). |
No, I’ve never posted this before, and your response shows that you’re not even paying attention to this thread. I didn’t post this to talk about “today” - I posted it because another poster was talking about how things used to be - the claim being that kids USED to flock to the NE and now they don’t - and this post refutes that claim. In fact, it’s the only non-anecdotal evidence on this thread. Also, yes I know that Fairfax and Loudoun don’t have valedictorians now and probably didn’t then. That doesn’t change the fact that high achieving students from those districts were and are more likely to follow the college tracks of high achieving Arlington and Alexandria students than Montgomery County students. |