What happens if MCPS isn't staffed by the first day of school?

[Anonymous]

That’s the problem though. Schools aren’t designed to solve social problems. Teachers are trained to be educators and nothing more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s the problem though. Schools aren’t designed to solve social problems. Teachers are trained to be educators and nothing more.

Nonsense. Of course they are, and they have been for 150 years. And teachers are also trained to be more than just educators. That why, for example, they are mandatory reporters.

[Anonymous]

We are getting to a system where there are no standrdsnor teacher and where subs or cameras just babysit a room full of juvenile delinquents just watching TV on their phones to get strait A grades. If teachers try to teach they will be fired for getting kids to think and be responsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are getting to a system where there are no standrdsnor teacher and where subs or cameras just babysit a room full of juvenile delinquents just watching TV on their phones to get strait A grades. If teachers try to teach they will be fired for getting kids to think and be responsible.

No, we aren't. Good grief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are getting to a system where there are no standrdsnor teacher and where subs or cameras just babysit a room full of juvenile delinquents just watching TV on their phones to get strait A grades. If teachers try to teach they will be fired for getting kids to think and be responsible.

Definitely close to true at some schools. The kids face little consequences for bad behavior. Schools are short staffed so they hire whoever they can get. Not a great situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually the child doesn’t have special needs. He was never potty trained because his parents never did it. There are plenty of kids raised on devices. If you want old school teaching, I’d recommend Catholic schools. What you will find there is very much like my public education in the 80s (grammar, spelling, handwriting, math facts, etc).

Are you the former kindergarten teacher? If so, then notwithstanding the teacher shortage, it might be a good thing for everyone that you retired.

Nope. Not my post I'm the former K- teacher here and just wow at your assumptions and major jump to conclusions. Perhaps you weren't properly taught critical thinking skills. What a shame.

(I don't even understand how one would deduce that the above post was mine. My original post definitely did not even hint at the fact that I'd be okay with kids being raised on devices. In fact, my post stated quite the opposite.) In addition, I never said K teachers EXPECT kids to come in knowing how to read. I simply said that used to be a fairly regular occurrence for the majority of my career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the child doesn’t have special needs. He was never potty trained because his parents never did it. There are plenty of kids raised on devices. If you want old school teaching, I’d recommend Catholic schools. What you will find there is very much like my public education in the 80s (grammar, spelling, handwriting, math facts, etc).

Are you the former kindergarten teacher? If so, then notwithstanding the teacher shortage, it might be a good thing for everyone that you retired.

Nope. Not my post I'm the former K- teacher here and just wow at your assumptions and major jump to conclusions. Perhaps you weren't properly taught critical thinking skills. What a shame.

(I don't even understand how one would deduce that the above post was mine. My original post definitely did not even hint at the fact that I'd be okay with kids being raised on devices. In fact, my post stated quite the opposite.) In addition, I never said K teachers EXPECT kids to come in knowing how to read. I simply said that used to be a fairly regular occurrence for the majority of my career.

You sound too unkind to be a kindergarten teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the child doesn’t have special needs. He was never potty trained because his parents never did it. There are plenty of kids raised on devices. If you want old school teaching, I’d recommend Catholic schools. What you will find there is very much like my public education in the 80s (grammar, spelling, handwriting, math facts, etc).

Are you the former kindergarten teacher? If so, then notwithstanding the teacher shortage, it might be a good thing for everyone that you retired.

I'm the former K teacher (didn't retire, got a better job instead). But I didn't post the above. I was in a school once where a parent gave my grade level colleague a puppy pad so her kid could defecate there instead of the toilet cause that's how they did it at home. I kid you not. The nurse got involved and we all helped to properly potty train this child. He didn't have any special needs, but perhaps the parents did.

Good for you all. Some kids need public school to act as a backstop when their parents don't/can't provide what they need. I'm glad that you were able to help.

I’m glad you were able to help also, BUT that’s not what should have happened. It should have been made clear to the parent that if this was needed/required the child did not meet the minimum qualifications for K. Ya’ll would be happy to help enroll said kid in pre-school/daycare until such time that they could meet the minimum entrance requirements for K which is being fully potty trained.

[Anonymous]

According to the MD State Dept. of Education website,

"There are regulations for the age a child must be to enroll in public school Prekindergarten and Kindergarten:

· A child admitted to the prekindergarten program in public schools shall be 4 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance.

· A child admitted to the kindergarten program in the public schools shall be 5 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance."

There is nothing about a child required to be potty trained.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the child doesn’t have special needs. He was never potty trained because his parents never did it. There are plenty of kids raised on devices. If you want old school teaching, I’d recommend Catholic schools. What you will find there is very much like my public education in the 80s (grammar, spelling, handwriting, math facts, etc).

Are you the former kindergarten teacher? If so, then notwithstanding the teacher shortage, it might be a good thing for everyone that you retired.

Nope. Not my post I'm the former K- teacher here and just wow at your assumptions and major jump to conclusions. Perhaps you weren't properly taught critical thinking skills. What a shame.

(I don't even understand how one would deduce that the above post was mine. My original post definitely did not even hint at the fact that I'd be okay with kids being raised on devices. In fact, my post stated quite the opposite.) In addition, I never said K teachers EXPECT kids to come in knowing how to read. I simply said that used to be a fairly regular occurrence for the majority of my career.

You sound too unkind to be a kindergarten teacher.

Right… because teachers aren’t real people. We’re all just happy, magical unicorns who are expected to sit down and take bs from horrible people. You’re delusional at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the MD State Dept. of Education website,

"There are regulations for the age a child must be to enroll in public school Prekindergarten and Kindergarten:

· A child admitted to the prekindergarten program in public schools shall be 4 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance.

· A child admitted to the kindergarten program in the public schools shall be 5 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance."

There is nothing about a child required to be potty trained.

DP… it might not be a requirement but if your kid isn’t potty trained by age 5 and they don’t have special needs, you are not doing your job as a parent. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the MD State Dept. of Education website,

"There are regulations for the age a child must be to enroll in public school Prekindergarten and Kindergarten:

· A child admitted to the prekindergarten program in public schools shall be 4 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance.

· A child admitted to the kindergarten program in the public schools shall be 5 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance."

There is nothing about a child required to be potty trained.

There is nothing in the K curriculum about potty training. I’m pretty sure it’s not listed in teacher contracts either for K-12. Just because something isn’t explicitly stated doesn’t make it an understood requirement, if you don’t have a special needs child.

And since this child wasn’t going to be given an IEP nor a note from an physician indicating special medical circumstance, it should not be assume that the K teacher/Nurse should take in this responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the child doesn’t have special needs. He was never potty trained because his parents never did it. There are plenty of kids raised on devices. If you want old school teaching, I’d recommend Catholic schools. What you will find there is very much like my public education in the 80s (grammar, spelling, handwriting, math facts, etc).

Are you the former kindergarten teacher? If so, then notwithstanding the teacher shortage, it might be a good thing for everyone that you retired.

Nope. Not my post I'm the former K- teacher here and just wow at your assumptions and major jump to conclusions. Perhaps you weren't properly taught critical thinking skills. What a shame.

(I don't even understand how one would deduce that the above post was mine. My original post definitely did not even hint at the fact that I'd be okay with kids being raised on devices. In fact, my post stated quite the opposite.) In addition, I never said K teachers EXPECT kids to come in knowing how to read. I simply said that used to be a fairly regular occurrence for the majority of my career.

You sound too unkind to be a kindergarten teacher.

Right… because teachers aren’t real people. We’re all just happy, magical unicorns who are expected to sit down and take bs from horrible people. You’re delusional at best.

There are plenty of real people who are kind people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the child doesn’t have special needs. He was never potty trained because his parents never did it. There are plenty of kids raised on devices. If you want old school teaching, I’d recommend Catholic schools. What you will find there is very much like my public education in the 80s (grammar, spelling, handwriting, math facts, etc).

Are you the former kindergarten teacher? If so, then notwithstanding the teacher shortage, it might be a good thing for everyone that you retired.

Nope. Not my post I'm the former K- teacher here and just wow at your assumptions and major jump to conclusions. Perhaps you weren't properly taught critical thinking skills. What a shame.

(I don't even understand how one would deduce that the above post was mine. My original post definitely did not even hint at the fact that I'd be okay with kids being raised on devices. In fact, my post stated quite the opposite.) In addition, I never said K teachers EXPECT kids to come in knowing how to read. I simply said that used to be a fairly regular occurrence for the majority of my career.

You sound too unkind to be a kindergarten teacher.

Right… because teachers aren’t real people. We’re all just happy, magical unicorns who are expected to sit down and take bs from horrible people. You’re delusional at best.

There are plenty of real people who are kind people.

DP, but whoosh…. The point went straight over your head. Bless your heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the MD State Dept. of Education website,

"There are regulations for the age a child must be to enroll in public school Prekindergarten and Kindergarten:

· A child admitted to the prekindergarten program in public schools shall be 4 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance.

· A child admitted to the kindergarten program in the public schools shall be 5 years old or older on September 1 of the school year in which the child applies for entrance."

There is nothing about a child required to be potty trained.

There is nothing in the K curriculum about potty training. I’m pretty sure it’s not listed in teacher contracts either for K-12. Just because something isn’t explicitly stated doesn’t make it an understood requirement, if you don’t have a special needs child.

And since this child wasn’t going to be given an IEP nor a note from an physician indicating special medical circumstance, it should not be assume that the K teacher/Nurse should take in this responsibility.

It's public school and we can't turn students away because their parents haven't done their job. Most of the time a para helped this kid in the bathroom. We set a timer and he would go every time it went off. There is nothing else we could have done. We can't deny him an education.