People getting crap jobs from HYPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.


You have far too much time on your hands.
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I know lots of HYP grads who do Teach for America, it was started by a Princeton Grad.

I once had a temp who was a recent Harvard grad.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.


No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.
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This is why I don’t tell our neighbors intimate details of my adult kids’ lives.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.


No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.


I would not consider day to day life in IB as a “comfortable lifestyle.” At all. YMMV.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.


No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.


There are easier ways to make even more money nowadays.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.


He chose it cause it's fun. Simple as that. Logical? Maybe not. But it obviously brings him joy.
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I support the kayaking job. And maybe he doesn’t have any loans and is totally supporting himself in this job. Yes he does have options that not all people have but why are you shaming him for that? We should all be so lucky. Let him live the life that works for him. No hurry to jump into the work grind just to make money to feel successful. Many of us feel successful in other ways and prioritize different things.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.


Who cares. Stop being an old hag and let him do what he wants before he gets jaded like you.
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Anonymous wrote:Kayaking for a year sounds like heaven. I wish I had something like backpacking around the world after college instead of rushing headfirst into work.



Only people who did college on financial aid or from trust fund money can afford such privileges, others have to earn decent money and build careers to earn $$$$$$ to afford living and repay loans.


Financial aid at Harvard and comparable schools is amazing. He probably has no loans if he couldnt easily afford it.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.


No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.


It wasn't looked down upon until recently. Younger high IQ woke grads doesn't have interest in doing things they don't morally approve of.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.



I know of two IB employees who feel burnt out in two years and are exploring an exit strategy.
No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.


I would not consider day to day life in IB as a “comfortable lifestyle.” At all. YMMV.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.


No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.


I would not consider day to day life in IB as a “comfortable lifestyle.” At all. YMMV.


Yup. Even if you don't have moral issues, burnt out is real.
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.


There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.


No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.


The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.


No, you are the dummy. Kids with true connections do not need to work as summer analysts before getting offers... I have a good friend with a lot of connections who went to Harvard with me. He took off a couple years to teach English abroad and then came back and joined a top tier consulting firm. I have friends who did similar at investment banks.

And I'm a pretty recent grad so this isn't a back in the day thing.



Harvard grade don’t want to be investment bankers anymore.




This^. None of DS's Ivy friends wanted to join finance bros because they are seen as douche bags and work isn't purposeful.


My husband went to Harvard and he works at an investment bank. He's not a bro at all - the furthest thing, truly. But we both value a comfortable lifestyle and we prioritize careers where we can grow and make money.


It wasn't looked down upon until recently. Younger high IQ woke grads doesn't have interest in doing things they don't morally approve of.


It’s because of the hours.
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Anonymous wrote:Kayaking for a year sounds like heaven. I wish I had something like backpacking around the world after college instead of rushing headfirst into work.



Only people who did college on financial aid or from trust fund money can afford such privileges, others have to earn decent money and build careers to earn $$$$$$ to afford living and repay loans.


Financial aid at Harvard and comparable schools is amazing. He probably has no loans if he couldnt easily afford it.


This is DCUM and families making $300k are barely getting by.
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