Robert F Kennedy running for president as a Dem

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Anonymous wrote:The much younger Kennedy who ran for senate a couple years ago was a lot more reasonable, but I think he may have screwed his career trying to run too early

Apples at watermelons.

Joe Kennedy III is a very bright guy who isn’t a crazy nut job like this guy. I agree he made a mistake running for the senate, but I also think the Dem party made a huge mistake by not supporting him. We need young legislators, and he could have been a star in a decade.

No. No more Kennedy's. No more Bushes. never, under any circumstances, any Trumps.

I sort of agree, tired of the "dynasty" stuff, we are not monarchy.. But he is currently the only candidate who isn't peddling divisive politics, esp. on medical ethics side like support for horrible vax mandates/vaxxports or complete abortion bans. I know to some here he is an antivax radical, but he isn't calling to ban all vaccines, and it's hardly as divisive as vax mandates on everyone and complete abortion bans.

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Anonymous wrote:This will last a minute. No anti vaxx Q freak will get enough votes from democrats.

He is certainly getting a lot of attention though, and a lot of backlash.. for someone who isn't likely to get even 10 votes like some of you say..

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Anonymous wrote:This will last a minute. No anti vaxx Q freak will get enough votes from democrats.

Probably not, but if the party treats him poorly he might just get pissed off and run as an independent. Name recognition and anti-vax sympathy (which is there below the surface across the political spectrum) could make him a spoiler candidate.

You are totally on point here. Esp. the bolded statement

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anti-vax sympathy (which is there below the surface across the political spectrum)

+! Come on, was polio really all that bad??? More wheelchairs! More canes! Bring back the Iron Lung!

Hot take: Smallpox builds character! MAGA!

Overseas where they used oral Polio live virus vaccines and people were maimed, plus circulating strains have emerged from this. Lucky they didn't push this on our kids and we got the inactivated virus shots

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Anonymous wrote:I am really uncomfortable reading all these attacks on him, most seemingly having to do with his vaccine opinions.
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But it is really, really not cool to be attacking a Kennedy like this. Not cool at all. All of you should be ashamed.

Screw you and your lame dynasty-worship. This Kennedy is looney-tunes and does not belong in office.

Support a better candidate.

Like, who? Biden? Or maybe Kamala?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I would take 69 and crazy over 80 and senile

He is only crazy in the eyes of pro-vax mandate Covidian cult. Many vaxxed people didn't care about mandates either and didn't care that vax was pushed on little kids with little data to prove they need it (esp. when other 1st world countries didn't even approve it or insisted on kids getting it). His anti-vax thing will be a non issue for more people than you think

For like the fifth time on this thread, RFK Jr. was spouting anti-vaccine BS before Covid even existed. He thinks the MMR causes Autism. He’s a loon.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, please describe the Covid vaccine lies

prevents transmission and will stop you from getting Covid (many of you already got it despite the vax and boosters and had symptoms similar to the unvaxxed)
prevents hospitalization (no way to test in low risk groups)
prevents Long Covid (no way to test)
needed for children (who are the lowest risk, known since April 2020)

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I would take 69 and crazy over 80 and senile

He is only crazy in the eyes of pro-vax mandate Covidian cult. Many vaxxed people didn't care about mandates either and didn't care that vax was pushed on little kids with little data to prove they need it (esp. when other 1st world countries didn't even approve it or insisted on kids getting it). His anti-vax thing will be a non issue for more people than you think

For like the fifth time on this thread, RFK Jr. was spouting anti-vaccine BS before Covid even existed. He thinks the MMR causes Autism. He’s a loon.

Trump said the same things, and became President. It helped that the two doctors were asked about this at the debate, and both supported him for ideological reasons.
Rand Paul as a libertarian was somewhat against mandates, and Ben Carson talked about how they give out too many vaccinations at once.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I would take 69 and crazy over 80 and senile

He is only crazy in the eyes of pro-vax mandate Covidian cult. Many vaxxed people didn't care about mandates either and didn't care that vax was pushed on little kids with little data to prove they need it (esp. when other 1st world countries didn't even approve it or insisted on kids getting it). His anti-vax thing will be a non issue for more people than you think

For like the fifth time on this thread, RFK Jr. was spouting anti-vaccine BS before Covid even existed. He thinks the MMR causes Autism. He’s a loon.

MMR stuff is old news and was mainstream enough, it's no Qanon

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Has anyone seen/heard the video of his speech? This is the beginning and end of his campaign. That raspy voice is not going to cut it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am really uncomfortable reading all these attacks on him, most seemingly having to do with his vaccine opinions.

We’ve got enough hindsight and distance now to look back on the vaccines (developed under Trump, btw) to be able to honestly admit there were some real problems and real dangers with those vaccines. The fact they trump cooked them up is all you need to know to be skeptical of them.

But it is really, really not cool to be attacking a Kennedy like this. Not cool at all. All of you should be ashamed.

If you remember Kamala was initially publicly skeptical of these vaccines, Dems distrusted them until Biden came to power and dems rushed to get them, which is expected. But then *something* compelled Biden and other local politicians to force people to take these shots against their will to keep their jobs, attend college and play school sports. Then *something* compelled some local politicians to institute ridiculous vaxxports. Then *something* has cancelled natural immunity. I am still incredibly curious what this *something* was.. Hopefully future trials will sort this out.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen/heard the video of his speech? This is the beginning and end of his campaign. That raspy voice is not going to cut it.

That's from a while ago, when he spoke at the DC anti-mandate rally. He is apparently undergoing some sort of treatment and he sounds better now.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, please describe the Covid vaccine lies

That “it doesn’t cause blood clots” and “doesn’t cause GB syndrome” - both of which were proven to be, if not outright lies, than inconvenient mistruths , within weeks of the vaccines getting widespread use.

As for myocarditis and “sudden unexplained death syndrome”, well, where there’s smoke there’s fire.

These vaccines were developed under Trump. There was a time when Joe Biden told us he too was very skeptical of them for that reason.


Have we really all just mentally walled that off? I haven’t.

Totally true, I remember vax skepticism when Trump was still in power, this was quite mainstream until Biden won. Then *something* compelled him to make it the best thing ever to eventually push it hard on every American including Covid recovered and low risk students and school athletes. So many things just didn't logically add up.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, please describe the Covid vaccine lies

prevents transmission and will stop you from getting Covid (many of you already got it despite the vax and boosters and had symptoms similar to the unvaxxed)
prevents hospitalization (no way to test in low risk groups)
prevents Long Covid (no way to test)
needed for children (who are the lowest risk, known since April 2020)

None of those are lies and you are deliberately misstating to prove your point but it's not working.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, please describe the Covid vaccine lies

prevents transmission and will stop you from getting Covid (many of ou already got it despite the vax and boosters and had symptoms similar to the unvaxxed)
prevents hospitalization (no way to test in low risk groups)
prevents Long Covid (no way to test)
needed for children (who are the lowest risk, known since April 2020)

None of those are lies and you are deliberately misstating to prove your point but it's not working.

DP. I definitely recall all the headlines at the time. For reference I was vaccinated in April 2021 like most people, but I was paying attention to the ever changing headlines after the fact and was so turned off. What happened in fall of 2021 was downright disgusting and I will NEVER trust you psychopaths ever again. Luckily the headlines haven't been scrubbed off the internet.. yet.

Let's review;

First, they declared the vaccine was 99% effective.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/real-world-vaccine-study-shows-99-effective-rate

Biden was out there saying you won't get covid. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/

Breakthrough cases started happening and the line was basically "oh it's just a very tiny amount of people" https://abc7.com/covid-breakthrough-cdc-data/10923757/

Then despite breakthrough cases rising, you had this weird authoritarian assault on the unvaccinated https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unvaccinated-winter-severe-illness-death-white-house/story?id=81817431

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/biden-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-announcement/

I can't believe this one was even published... https://news.yahoo.com/noam-chomsky-unvaccinated-remove-themselves-171900487.html

Finally omicron came and became highly prevent along unvaccinated and vaccinated alike. The gig was over. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/12/fully-vaccinated-omicron-infections/620953/