Disagree about monograms, generally. They’re traditional on linens for wedding presents, and pretty necessary when you have multiple boys/men in the house all wearing pretty much the same button-downs! Agree though that there’s a little bit of ick factor for me when it comes to mono’d napkins, because it doubles down on the idea that you’re reusing them many multiple times before washing them. |
What's funny is that truly old-money people are not as judgemental as poseurs. Which is of the giveaways that Gwyneth Paltrow is not a WASP. Anyway, tacky is an impolite, self-righteous thing to say/. |
what a tacky forum |
nothing. People just need to always be offended about something. Everyone can be tacky. expensive designer things with huge logos are tacky. How is that classist? |
good try at turning this into a discussion about race ....fail..... ![]() |
You know who throws tacky around the most? Seething middle class wannabes in mediocre homes driving Subarus and RAV4s, jealous of wealthier "tacky" peers who build custom "McMansions," drive new Teslas and Audis, and take better vacations than they do. It's so obvious. |
Respectfully, this is a classic case of middle class seething. Driving a big new SUV is not tacky. It is utility. You have kids, probably also a dog, car pool the kids' friends and teammates, take road trips to a vacation home and travel sports events, and because you can AFFORD IT. Plus the tax advantages of driving a big new vehicle with a certain curb weight, which you'd know if you were actually in their tax bracket. Your crummy RAV4 or Accord is not enough space for a large family, a dog, and your kids' friends. |
Classism is rampant.
There are far too many classist words our society let’s go, but we shouldn’t. |
Tackiness, like rudeness, is a behavior unrelated to economic or education level. |
Mhm… see “clean-cut” and “articulate” when referring to a black man. |
Actually, “tackiness,” unlike “rudeness,” specifically does have class connotations. That’s exactly the point. |
Sure thing. I will make sure to use the more inclusive and woke “obnoxious” or “tasteless” in the future, with the occasional “garbage.” |
On some abstract level yes dismissing certain behavior as tacky is a conveyor of class identity . In reality, there really is behavior that needs to be called out and standards for good behavior have dropped to all time lows. So I have mixed feelings about this word . Maybe other more specific adjectives would be better sometimes For example, Unkind Unnecessary Flashy Boastful Inconsiderate Thoughtless |
I'm with you, PP. Why can't the pendulum ever just rest in the middle. If a person behaves badly, they deserve to be judged. They deserve to be shamed and feel shamed. Inclusivity, body positivity, equity, diversity, all good. But in the service of pursuing these things, we cannot just say that *anything* goes, no judgement of anything ever, no shaming of anything ever. Why are people so bad at common sense. |
Class is not related to money or education. See: Donald Trump. |