help me understand luxury hotels

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Anonymous wrote:JW is actually classified as a luxury hotel by STR, the company that compares comp hotels.

(Formerly smith travel research)

Their not bad but not what people are really talking about here.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get people who don’t get liking luxury hotels. If I’m taking precious time off I want a great experience, not a utilitarian one.

A great experience requires you to leave the hotel grounds. Sitting on a hotel's beach and eating in their restaurant is so dumb.

What is dumb about it? You don’t get to dictate how others relax.

We fly to Miami all the time and do two or three nights at the St. Regis Bal Harbor and don’t leave the property, except may to walk across the st to go shopping grab a glass of wine.

I posted on another similar thread about some of the pros of staying at a luxury property. Hands down makes your stay a better experience. A good chunk of what makes things better are the little things you don’t even think about that they pick up on or handle with ease. On example I gave was being in Venice and running into a hotel manager on her day off. She noticed that we had done some shopping. Introduced to the owner of a great small restaurant while she arranged for hotel staff to come grab our shopping bags and take them to our room. Or getting food poising in Paris and hotel staff arranging for medical care and not allowing me to pay extra to clean up the vomit or the extra nights in the room or the private car they arranged to take me to the airport or the for them coordinating with the airline to have an airline host meet me at the curb and stay with me until I boarded.
There are about 50 other instances I could list.

So nice you are still loyal to the St Regis when the smart set has moved on to Four Seasons Surfside. Of course, St Regis BH is more value priced, so there’s that, too.

This is true, but FS Surfside is so expensive now that it’s for the ultra wealthy. A room that’s not even ocean view is $3-4k a night. Getting an ocean view suite for a week would run you $100k.

st Regis bal Barbour is ocean front for $1,500 a night.

I’m not the pp but I also like St Regis Bal Harbour. I have been twice and it is an easy flight. I like being able to be left alone and shop across the street as well. I also like four seasons, rosewood, mandarin oriental, banyan tree and many more. I am not trying to impress others. I like to be comfortable and appreciate good service and nice amenities. I don’t really care if four seasons surf side is better. I have never heard of it. Maybe I will stay there instead of st Regis next time. I think it is odd that you are trying to put down a random internet stranger for liking st Regis.

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I don’t appreciate the innuendo that you are middle class if you stay at St Regis Bal Harbour. It is elite!

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

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Americans want to be all alone on vacation and not talk to guests. Like your big suburbs!

In Europe hotel experience is much more social.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans want to be all alone on vacation and not talk to guests. Like your big suburbs!

In Europe hotel experience is much more social.

I don’t live in the burbs and like being alone vacation. And go to Europe plenty, I stay luxury hotels there as well, while they may be more social and I don’t entirely agree with that, you don’t need to engage with others. I don’t know the other guests, have no desire to get to know them, and don’t care about the magical thing they just did or are going to do. I also don’t travel with friends or family, because other than my kid or spouse I don’t have a desire to engage with others on vacation or care what they want to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans want to be all alone on vacation and not talk to guests. Like your big suburbs!

In Europe hotel experience is much more social.

I don’t live in the burbs and like being alone vacation. And go to Europe plenty, I stay luxury hotels there as well, while they may be more social and I don’t entirely agree with that, you don’t need to engage with others. I don’t know the other guests, have no desire to get to know them, and don’t care about the magical thing they just did or are going to do. I also don’t travel with friends or family, because other than my kid or spouse I don’t have a desire to engage with others on vacation or care what they want to do.

Yes good. You don’t care about other people as long as they know you are “luxury” guest.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

And also I would guess these kids are not from UC who go regularly on nice vacations. The kids we see with the worst behavior are those whose parents have brought their own drinks/snacks to the pool so they don't have to pay the resort prices/tip. Yet they leave their trash everywhere and expect the staff to cater to them. They have a chip on their should for paying so much for the hotel room that they think they should get the rest for free.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

LOL. God, you all are the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

And also I would guess these kids are not from UC who go regularly on nice vacations. The kids we see with the worst behavior are those whose parents have brought their own drinks/snacks to the pool so they don't have to pay the resort prices/tip. Yet they leave their trash everywhere and expect the staff to cater to them. They have a chip on their should for paying so much for the hotel room that they think they should get the rest for free.

This *1000

I cannot stand people who try and sneak groceries into their room, or use their personal “water bottle” at the pool.

If you’re not elite, go somewhere you can afford.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

And also I would guess these kids are not from UC who go regularly on nice vacations. The kids we see with the worst behavior are those whose parents have brought their own drinks/snacks to the pool so they don't have to pay the resort prices/tip. Yet they leave their trash everywhere and expect the staff to cater to them. They have a chip on their should for paying so much for the hotel room that they think they should get the rest for free.

This *1000

I cannot stand people who try and sneak groceries into their room, or use their personal “water bottle” at the pool.

If you’re not elite, go somewhere you can afford.

Sorry you don't like sharing your nice hotel with us riffraff. Groceries are allowed in the room. You don't have to sneak them. Guess its time to up your spend and go somewhere even MORE expensive!

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

And also I would guess these kids are not from UC who go regularly on nice vacations. The kids we see with the worst behavior are those whose parents have brought their own drinks/snacks to the pool so they don't have to pay the resort prices/tip. Yet they leave their trash everywhere and expect the staff to cater to them. They have a chip on their should for paying so much for the hotel room that they think they should get the rest for free.

This *1000

I cannot stand people who try and sneak groceries into their room, or use their personal “water bottle” at the pool.

If you’re not elite, go somewhere you can afford.

Really, you cannot stand them? How on earth does it affect you at all?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to sound like a snob, but one reason I opt for luxury hotels is because I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who gravitate toward cheaper ones… young people crashing into a room and partying all night; unsupervised children running amok in the hallways or hotel restaurant; etc.

That is so funny because for me it is the opposite! I like staying somewhere casual so I’m less likely to be irritated by the types of people who think they’re VIP. I’m not saying you are, and I’m not saying most are. But there’s definitely a good chunk of very entitled types (I have a number of family members in this category) and I’d rather avoid that whole vibe.

Yes and in some ways I find rich kids to be worse than MC kids.

I can only think of one group of obnoxious rich kids we encountered at the ritz cayman during spring break one year. Kids were obnoxious entitled brats. Maybe it was because they were a fairly large group.

I prefer places that aren’t too crowded. Nice beach and pool are a must. I’m not even looking for ultra luxury or signal we are rich. We usually pay anywhere from 10-40k for spring break.

It was because ritz cayman is barely luxury.

And also I would guess these kids are not from UC who go regularly on nice vacations. The kids we see with the worst behavior are those whose parents have brought their own drinks/snacks to the pool so they don't have to pay the resort prices/tip. Yet they leave their trash everywhere and expect the staff to cater to them. They have a chip on their should for paying so much for the hotel room that they think they should get the rest for free.

This *1000

I cannot stand people who try and sneak groceries into their room, or use their personal “water bottle” at the pool.

If you’re not elite, go somewhere you can afford.

Sorry you don't like sharing your nice hotel with us riffraff. Groceries are allowed in the room. You don't have to sneak them. Guess its time to up your spend and go somewhere even MORE expensive!

When we go to St Regis Bal Harbour, I don’t want to see you with your heavy cooler in the chic lobby.