African-American Name for White Child?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My children have French, Japanese and Vietnamese names because that is their heritage. Since they look completely asian, people look a little confused when I talk to them in French and call them by their French name

Stop assuming.


You seem insecure. I've seen you on several threads talking about how strange you think your family is, the gulf between appearance and names, etc. In this area, it's pretty safe to assume most people know about the history of French involvement in Indochina, so I have to believe that any "confusion" you perceive stems from your own issues.


Oh you are SO wrong. I am well educated w/ a grad degree from a fancy schmancy high $$$ school, and only vaguely in the deepest recesses of my mind did I have a recollection of the French being involved w/ Indochina. I'm not the smartest cookie around, but in comparison to the general population, I am very well read and well educated. Trust me, MANY people have no idea (1) what Indochina is (2) or that the French ever had anything to do with it.

And I don't perceive the poster w/ F, J, V names in her family to be insecure - she has an unusual situation and notes that people react to it with surprise. Not insecurity - reality.


not to get too off track but I went to a crappy public HS, and a non-fancy schmancy state university (the horror, the horror!) and certainly have an inkling about French involvement in Indochina. Wouldn't anyone who studied the Vietnam War in high school? There are plenty of books (Marguerite Duras) and movies (Indochine) about it, and French-Vietnamese restaurants abound. I would be more surprised to meet someone who didn't know about the relationship, it is like someone being unaware that Belgians were involved in the Congo.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
not to get too off track but I went to a crappy public HS, and a non-fancy schmancy state university (the horror, the horror!) and certainly have an inkling about French involvement in Indochina. Wouldn't anyone who studied the Vietnam War in high school? There are plenty of books (Marguerite Duras) and movies (Indochine) about it, and French-Vietnamese restaurants abound. I would be more surprised to meet someone who didn't know about the relationship, it is like someone being unaware that Belgians were involved in the Congo.


Yep, exactly. Probably less than 25% in both cases.

Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
not to get too off track but I went to a crappy public HS, and a non-fancy schmancy state university (the horror, the horror!) and certainly have an inkling about French involvement in Indochina. Wouldn't anyone who studied the Vietnam War in high school? There are plenty of books (Marguerite Duras) and movies (Indochine) about it, and French-Vietnamese restaurants abound. I would be more surprised to meet someone who didn't know about the relationship, it is like someone being unaware that Belgians were involved in the Congo.


Yep, exactly. Probably less than 25% in both cases.



We actually never made it to the Vietnam War in my history classes. Up to WWII and then modern politics in Civics, but there was a big hole around mid-century. No Korea, no Vietnam, no civil or women's rights movements. History was NOT my school's - and as a result, isn't my - strong suit. I truly wasn't aware of the French/Indochina connection until I saw Apocalypse Now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My college crush was Darius-he was 100% Iranian.


Umm - that's not really surprising. Darius was Emperor of the Persian Empire about at 500 BC. The Persian Empire was centered in . . . wait for it . . . Iran.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My children have French, Japanese and Vietnamese names because that is their heritage. Since they look completely asian, people look a little confused when I talk to them in French and call them by their French name

Stop assuming.


You seem insecure. I've seen you on several threads talking about how strange you think your family is, the gulf between appearance and names, etc. In this area, it's pretty safe to assume most people know about the history of French involvement in Indochina, so I have to believe that any "confusion" you perceive stems from your own issues.


Oh you are SO wrong. I am well educated w/ a grad degree from a fancy schmancy high $$$ school, and only vaguely in the deepest recesses of my mind did I have a recollection of the French being involved w/ Indochina. I'm not the smartest cookie around, but in comparison to the general population, I am very well read and well educated. Trust me, MANY people have no idea (1) what Indochina is (2) or that the French ever had anything to do with it.

And I don't perceive the poster w/ F, J, V names in her family to be insecure - she has an unusual situation and notes that people react to it with surprise. Not insecurity - reality.


I think your post shows that while you may have attended a "fancy schmancy high $$$ school" and received a "grad degree" from that high school (how exactly does that work?) you are not in fact "very well read and well educated." No offense.
Anonymous
I wonder if the people who were ignorant of the French involvement in Indochina were also surprised to learn that there's some kind of bad blood between Afghans and Russians...?

Go ahead and forget your algebra, kids... but keep your notes on colonialism. It usually comes back to bite someone in the ass.
Anonymous
OP, come back! What is the name??
Anonymous
Giancarlo Esposito.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My college crush was Darius-he was 100% Iranian.


I never thought Darius was an AA name anyway. I'm Polish and it's a very common Polish name too.


It's an extremely common Iranian name. Kind of like John or Mike here. I went to elementary school there and there were several Darius's in my class.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My college crush was Darius-he was 100% Iranian.


Did you go to the same fancy schmancy high school as our friend who was unaware of French involvement in Vietnam?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My college crush was Darius-he was 100% Iranian.


That's because Darius is actually the name of the First King of Persia (today known as Iran), but so many people Caucasian, African Americans, etc. think it's an African American name. But it's not.


Darius was not the first King of Persia. The Persian Empire was founded by Cyrus the Great - Darius was the third King of Kings after Cambyses.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
not to get too off track but I went to a crappy public HS, and a non-fancy schmancy state university (the horror, the horror!) and certainly have an inkling about French involvement in Indochina. Wouldn't anyone who studied the Vietnam War in high school? There are plenty of books (Marguerite Duras) and movies (Indochine) about it, and French-Vietnamese restaurants abound. I would be more surprised to meet someone who didn't know about the relationship, it is like someone being unaware that Belgians were involved in the Congo.


Yep, exactly. Probably less than 25% in both cases.



Good lord, what does that say about our education system and our citizens. I grew up in Jamaica and I know both these facts. They were part of my "world history" class in high school, and I have read about them in books, articles etc. No wonder the rest of the world thinks that Americans are idiots.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I teach Pre-K to mostly Latino children. Over the years I've had Latino boys in my class named

Franklin
Wilson
Jefferson
William
Johannes
Darwin
Alvin
Joachim
Andrew

Really opened my eyes.


total snark comment alert - harder to deport Franklin fernandez than Juan fernandez.


You should have wrote "total comment that shows my stupidity"

The children are born here in the US - making them US citizens. (And yes, I realize the US citizens could be kicked out of the country under rare and certain circumstances...)



Natural born US citizens cannot be kicked out for ANY reason.


Expatriation

I thought treason was one of the reasons that you could be kicked out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I teach Pre-K to mostly Latino children. Over the years I've had Latino boys in my class named

Franklin
Wilson
Jefferson
William
Johannes
Darwin
Alvin
Joachim
Andrew

Really opened my eyes.


total snark comment alert - harder to deport Franklin fernandez than Juan fernandez.


You should have wrote "total comment that shows my stupidity"

The children are born here in the US - making them US citizens. (And yes, I realize the US citizens could be kicked out of the country under rare and certain circumstances...)



Natural born US citizens cannot be kicked out for ANY reason.


Expatriation

I thought treason was one of the reasons that you could be kicked out.


Nope, the worse you can get is life imprisonment. Of course, you can always choose to leave before your trial.
Anonymous
Since this is anamyous...

My husband (a white guy) has a pretty typical AA name. People assume he's black and he's even had people TELL him "I thought you were black".

In social situations, his response is almost always: "I am...in my pants"

It makes the point that they are stereotyping based on name and so he'll just do the same...and he is rather gifted...but I've never been with a brother (or 500) so I don't know if that rumor is true.
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