Explain grade inflation to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation is an increase in average grades for a specified grouping over time. Based on this relatively straightforward calculation, there has been grade inflation at both the high school and the college level for decades.

Let’s say, for the sake of this discussion, everything you’ve typed above is true.

Where is the evidence that this is causing any problems at all?

Since you are quoting data to illustrate the condition, you will need to quote data to illustrate the problem.

https://gradeinflation.com/

https://ira.virginia.edu/university-stats-facts/undergraduate-gpa

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/pace-of-grade-inflation-picked-up-during-the-pandemic-study-says/2022/05

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2018/09/24/new-study-shows-widespread-grade-inflation-high-schools

You've simply posted more evidence that it is true. That was granted to you without debate.

What was asked was evidence that it is a problem. Do you have any?

Was the original thread about explaning evidence to you that there is a problem related to grade inflation? If you actually read the threads, you will see a study that shows grade inflation is occurring similtaneously with a decline in mastery of the subjects studied. That sounds problematic.

I fully understand it "sounds problematic" to you, but where is the evidence it is problematic?

Isn't it possible that colleges are still accepting qualified kids that can do the work and graduate with the same frequency of success? Where is the actual evidence this is creating a problem for anyone?

Most colleges do not have competitive admissions, so what is the definition of qualified? About half take remedial class, which means they are taking classes in college on material that should have been learned in high school.

What you are describing as a non-problem is a lowering of standards. The U.S. outspends all but one OECD country on per student educational spending, but is in the middle of the pack on the PISA educational attainment assessments. The average U.S. student is 3.5 years behind the average Singaporean student in math. Where is your evidence that having grades that don't reflect learning don't have an impact?

I didn't describe it as a "non-problem". I asked for the evidence that it was one by those making that claim. I guess you have none?

The STEM issue you mention is not new by any means and certainly not caused by recent grade inflation, which is the topic of this thread in the college and university forum.

Giving kids grades that don't align with content proficiency masks actual achievement levels and makes grades a poor indicator of student preparation for higher education and for work.

Again, where is the evidence this is causing problems, and for whom?

Let's give them all As.

Typical petulance from a person who clearly cannot answer the question to support their claim.

You are just trying to hide behind your line in the sand. Just read the conclusions in the study links provided regarding grade inflation:

Average grades have gone up while results of objective tests of subject proficiency have gone down.
Students learn more from teachers who have higher grading standards.
Teachers with higher grading standards improve their students’ performance in subsequent math classes up to two years later.
Teachers with higher grading standards significantly improve the learning outcomes of all student subgroups.
Teachers with higher grading standards significantly improve student learning in all types of schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If more than half the kids in a class get an A, there is grade inflation. And yes, I understand that there is grade inflation everywhere. Everyone gets a trophy.

But one could infer from such a cynical remark that you don’t believe those As are earned.

The purpose of primary and secondary education is to teach mastery of material. It’s not to generate a bell curve where top grades are rationed. Thinking about top grades as a commodity in this way is bizarre and antiquated. It’s literally Ok if half the class gets and A, even if they get to have retakes the like — because it demonstrates they learned the material. Which is the purpose of education. It’s not a race to learn the material “first” and it’s not like someone had to be “best” at it.

You win the internet for today.

They should lose the internet for today. What studies show is that grades have gone up at the same time that mastery of material has declined. The value of grades to accurately reflect mastery is therefore diminishing.

https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-new-evidence-of-high-school-grade-inflation/

Evidence lady will keep asking 'where's the evidence'? That is her comeback which alternates between insulting posters to then asking for evidence.