Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it really is more about having a strong moral compass and although not a legal requirement, it’s more about doing the right thing.

my DC will immediately withdraw her other 2 ED applications if she gets into her first ED choice

I think you meant her other 2 EA applications

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ Meant to say that instead of admitting the wrong, you are doubling down. No doubt this character defect (selfishness and dishonesty) permeates both your life and hers. Too bad your DD doesn't have a parent willing to parent.

Yes boy I feel so bad about mine and my DDs “character defect” as diagnosed on this board. What will I do? So sad. But anyway I think you are all missing the fact there was no way she was getting into the school, which is why I didn’t think it was a problem. I mean there was NO way she as getting into this school. She withdrew all of the other apps within days of her ED acceptance and all of them were well within reach. This one was not. For this school we both knew the app fee was a waste of money. If she thought she’d be accepted she would have pulled it just like the others that she pulled. Your hysteria is misplaced.

What happens if by some long shot she gets in?

[Anonymous]

es boy I feel so bad about mine and my DDs “character defect” as diagnosed on this board. What will I do? So sad. But anyway I think you are all missing the fact there was no way she was getting into the school, which is why I didn’t think it was a problem. I mean there was NO way she as getting into this school. She withdrew all of the other apps within days of her ED acceptance and all of them were well within reach. This one was not. For this school we both knew the app fee was a waste of money. If she thought she’d be accepted she would have pulled it just like the others that she pulled. Your hysteria is misplaced.

Well earlier you posted that your DD wanted to wait and see if she got in. So obviously she did not know the app was a waste of money - or else now you are lying, which is consistent with what you did after you signed the ED agreement.

Anyway, there is very rarely unanimity on DCUM. If you are seeing it here, maybe you should self-reflect.

[Anonymous]

The honest ones do. Their parents raised them with good values.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ Meant to say that instead of admitting the wrong, you are doubling down. No doubt this character defect (selfishness and dishonesty) permeates both your life and hers. Too bad your DD doesn't have a parent willing to parent.

Yes boy I feel so bad about mine and my DDs “character defect” as diagnosed on this board. What will I do? So sad. But anyway I think you are all missing the fact there was no way she was getting into the school, which is why I didn’t think it was a problem. I mean there was NO way she as getting into this school. She withdrew all of the other apps within days of her ED acceptance and all of them were well within reach. This one was not. For this school we both knew the app fee was a waste of money. If she thought she’d be accepted she would have pulled it just like the others that she pulled. Your hysteria is misplaced.

Ha! Well, if it was not crystal clear prior, it is now. DD is definitely an unfortunate product of PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately some people do not follow the rules. The issue is if you are caught you can have your ED admission rescinded. It could also affect kids in future years from your HS who apply ED to same university.

+1 for that reason, immediately after paying the deposit to the school that accepted my DC as an ED applicant, *I* got on every other school's portal and terminated DC's applications. I didn't want to take any chances and was okay with DC celebrating and focusing on the ED school acceptance. Yes, technically that was DC's job but I wasn't really focused on that at that moment. Just wanted to secure the ED school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A girl in my DD's class last year didn't and we informed the school. BTW, I posted about this last year asking if we should inform the school. About half the posters said MYOB and it was a pretty controversial discussion. Not sure why but that's DCUM for you.

Why would you do that? It is in violation of her privacy rights How would you even know? Snitches get Stitches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD was accepted ED but the week before the acceptance we discovered she had a serious health issue that at the time we thought might require her to stay much closer to home. She withdrew EA apps from schools 2 or more hours away but she had two acceptances from schools close by already and she kept those options open for about 6 weeks while we figured out the extent of the health situation and what treatment she would need. In that period, we paid the deposit on the ED school.

All worked out ok, she is at the ED school and doing well so far. I'm sure someone will say it was unethical, but I did not want her to end up with no college options because of a medical issue.

In your case, I do not think it is unethical. Your kid's health situation had changed and you needed to ensure she had options close to home. Don't think many (if any) would find an issue with that if the health issue is real (I believe you, just saying it has to be real)

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Anonymous wrote:My DD withdrew most of her EA apps but she was very curious about one particular very long shot school and could not find an easy way to withdraw her app so she let it ride. She did not get in, nor did she expect to have a snowballs chance in hell so didn't feel like it was a big deal. She did withdraw every other app (there were about 5-6 which were outstanding when she got her ED)

I should add, she didn't plan to accept the other school if she got in, just wanted to know if she would get in.

You do realize had she gotten in, she was taking a spot from another student. What a horrible lesson to allow your child not to follow the terms of her ED because Iacceptance.

No she wasn’t taking a sport from anyone because she wasn’t going to enroll. Colleges do not a 100% yield and therefore they accept way more than they need to fill the class. You really are clueless aren’t you? And even if they did, they would go to the waitlist if they didn’t get the yield they wanted. There is no kid sitting home crying in their cheerios as a result of my kid not pulling her app.

You do realize it would not likely be the same kid taken off the wait list and she would most likely have taken the spot of someone local. You should be embarrassed for not following the terms of ED because you put your kid’s curiosity over basic ethics.

First of all I was 100% sure she wasn’t getting in, and she didn’t. Secondly, she pulled all other apps. And yes they accept plenty more so even if she did get in, and turned it down how is that different than a kid who is applying as a safety and has no intention of going? Happens ALL the time.

Because applying as a Safety to 1000 schools is legal, ethical and not against the rules for anyone who is not submitting an ED application. Not even comparable. Stop attempting to justify what you/your daughter did. It's wrong and self centered. [/quote
There is nothing illegal or against the rules because the kid wasn’t accepted and even if she was, she wasn’t going. She was fully committed to her ED school. You’re being a bit of a drama queen.

You have multiple people telling you what your daughter did was unethical and directly in violation of the ED agreement and yet, you are still trying to defend it. Perhaps open up your mind to the fact that this was wrong instead of trying to justify it.

Eh I don’t care one bit what you think. I was being honest and answering the OPs question. I don’t have any regrets and it was not an issue, nor was it going to be. She pulled the apps except this one which was a total reach and we both knew she would’ve get in. She pulled 5-6 others. Go pick on someone else.

Post details that you are unethical and a rules violator, and you will get comments related to it. If you can't handle the results of your wrong actions, then perhaps you should not post them in a forum, just keep that information to yourself.

[Anonymous]

This is such an odd thread. Do you all believe there are ens or hundreds of thousands (millions?) of unethical HS students out there? Most are probably waiting on pins and needles to hear from their ED school. When they get in they're so excited and thrilledntonget in at thebplace they want to attend.

Our own child immediately withdrew from their other schools after being accepted ED - they knew there were other students waiting on pins and needles to hear from those schools, and why would they hold a spot when they knew they were not going to attend?

When you get in, it is a binding decision. That means you have to attend. Anyone who thinks there are so many kids out there who can get out of that, are crazy. A few here and there who figure out a way to manipulate the system, sure. But I don't think this is a huge nationwide problem.

[Anonymous]

For other EA schools, I don't see the big deal. If student wants to know outcome of other schools' applications, no reason why they can't wait. Usually the decisions are all around the same time, so not much time for school to react to a withdrawn application. My son didn't apply ED, but he had a few EA applications out and once he heard from his top choice, he still held out and waited to see what other schools' decisions were. Once he got the decisions, he immediately declined so that they could use that slot for a waitlist candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The honest ones do. Their parents raised them with good values.

This and the people who are content to finish with a fabulous trophy and don’t care about how many other trophies there are.

You just never know if taking that spot means a good friend got pushed out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For other EA schools, I don't see the big deal. If student wants to know outcome of other schools' applications, no reason why they can't wait. Usually the decisions are all around the same time, so not much time for school to react to a withdrawn application. My son didn't apply ED, but he had a few EA applications out and once he heard from his top choice, he still held out and waited to see what other schools' decisions were. Once he got the decisions, he immediately declined so that they could use that slot for a waitlist candidate.

Building on this, EA doesn’t confer the same advantage as ED since it is not binding and does not require you to withdraw apps. I see no problem with a kid who applied EA waiting to hear on other schools. Very different question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ Meant to say that instead of admitting the wrong, you are doubling down. No doubt this character defect (selfishness and dishonesty) permeates both your life and hers. Too bad your DD doesn't have a parent willing to parent.

Yes boy I feel so bad about mine and my DDs “character defect” as diagnosed on this board. What will I do? So sad. But anyway I think you are all missing the fact there was no way she was getting into the school, which is why I didn’t think it was a problem. I mean there was NO way she as getting into this school. She withdrew all of the other apps within days of her ED acceptance and all of them were well within reach. This one was not. For this school we both knew the app fee was a waste of money. If she thought she’d be accepted she would have pulled it just like the others that she pulled. Your hysteria is misplaced.

Your obstinate refusal to concede that you didn't follow the rules and to continue to justify it, is amusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is such an odd thread. Do you all believe there are ens or hundreds of thousands (millions?) of unethical HS students out there? Most are probably waiting on pins and needles to hear from their ED school. When they get in they're so excited and thrilledntonget in at thebplace they want to attend.

Our own child immediately withdrew from their other schools after being accepted ED - they knew there were other students waiting on pins and needles to hear from those schools, and why would they hold a spot when they knew they were not going to attend?

When you get in, it is a binding decision. That means you have to attend. Anyone who thinks there are so many kids out there who can get out of that, are crazy. A few here and there who figure out a way to manipulate the system, sure. But I don't think this is a huge nationwide problem.

Not attending your ED acceptance is NOT the issue. It's kids who plan to attend their ED, yet still want to "wait and see" with their other applications. Thus taking a spot from someone else should they get any other acceptances. I do think there are plenty who do that. Dangerous approach considering if the ED school finds out, they can rescind your acceptance.