Can a sixth grader take algebra 1?

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Anonymous wrote:CES prepared the kids with pre-algebra. Why not give them exposure to Algebra and let them explore the world of mathematics? Why do you want to hold them back because average joes cannot catch up?

CES has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

Kids in CES have the same math options as other kids in the same school. Most take compacted math, but not all. And lots of non-CES kids take compacted math.

Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.

What’s incorrect? Did they add a special CES-specific math class since my kid went through it?

No. The PP has no idea what she's talking about, probably one of the several private schools parents commenting.

[Anonymous]

I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CES prepared the kids with pre-algebra. Why not give them exposure to Algebra and let them explore the world of mathematics? Why do you want to hold them back because average joes cannot catch up?

CES has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

Kids in CES have the same math options as other kids in the same school. Most take compacted math, but not all. And lots of non-CES kids take compacted math.

Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.

What’s incorrect? Did they add a special CES-specific math class since my kid went through it?

No. The PP has no idea what she's talking about, probably one of the several private schools parents commenting.

There were many changes in past few years in terms of content thought at CES. Eureka math was also introduced at some point. Pre-Algebra is done in 5th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

AIM is 7th and half of 8th and the other half will be thought along with Algebra.

[Anonymous]

NWEA Norm table shows student achievement percentiles -

A MAP-M score of 260 is:
Above 99th percentile in 6th grade
98th percentile in 7th grade
95th percentile in 8th grade
94th percentile in 9th grade
92nd percentile in 10th grade
90th percentile in 11th grade
88th percentile in 12th grade

We understand that the content tested on at each grade is slightly different but there is continuum of progress so it cannot be drastically different. During the MAP M test, 5th grade CES, there were pre-algebra, algebra and calculus type of questions as the child progressed towards score of 280+

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CES prepared the kids with pre-algebra. Why not give them exposure to Algebra and let them explore the world of mathematics? Why do you want to hold them back because average joes cannot catch up?

CES has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

Kids in CES have the same math options as other kids in the same school. Most take compacted math, but not all. And lots of non-CES kids take compacted math.

Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.

What’s incorrect? Did they add a special CES-specific math class since my kid went through it?

There has been talk about a few ES schools offering AIM in 5th but not many. Most kids are skipping AIM and going directly into Algebra from compacted math.

The only school I know of that allows that is Frost. People have said you need a 250 on your MAP-M. Our kids were at the TPMS manget and came from an ES that didn't offer AIM in 5th; however, they both had scores in the 270-280 range. Unfortunately, TPMS, like most MCPS MS does not believe this is in the child's best interest. They prefer to provide deeper enrichment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CES prepared the kids with pre-algebra. Why not give them exposure to Algebra and let them explore the world of mathematics? Why do you want to hold them back because average joes cannot catch up?

CES has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

Kids in CES have the same math options as other kids in the same school. Most take compacted math, but not all. And lots of non-CES kids take compacted math.

Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.

What’s incorrect? Did they add a special CES-specific math class since my kid went through it?

There has been talk about a few ES schools offering AIM in 5th but not many. Most kids are skipping AIM and going directly into Algebra from compacted math.

The only school I know of that allows that is Frost. People have said you need a 250 on your MAP-M. Our kids were at the TPMS manget and came from an ES that didn't offer AIM in 5th; however, they both had scores in the 270-280 range. Unfortunately, TPMS, like most MCPS MS does not believe this is in the child's best interest. They prefer to provide deeper enrichment.

From what I can tell schools that offer AIM in 5th or acceleration do so reluctantly only because there's a critical mas of tiger parents who demand it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CES prepared the kids with pre-algebra. Why not give them exposure to Algebra and let them explore the world of mathematics? Why do you want to hold them back because average joes cannot catch up?

CES has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

Kids in CES have the same math options as other kids in the same school. Most take compacted math, but not all. And lots of non-CES kids take compacted math.

Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.

What’s incorrect? Did they add a special CES-specific math class since my kid went through it?

There has been talk about a few ES schools offering AIM in 5th but not many. Most kids are skipping AIM and going directly into Algebra from compacted math.

The only school I know of that allows that is Frost. People have said you need a 250 on your MAP-M. Our kids were at the TPMS manget and came from an ES that didn't offer AIM in 5th; however, they both had scores in the 270-280 range. Unfortunately, TPMS, like most MCPS MS does not believe this is in the child's best interest. They prefer to provide deeper enrichment.

From what I can tell schools that offer AIM in 5th or acceleration do so reluctantly only because there's a critical mas of tiger parents who demand it.

You mean the parents who care about their children's education and academic performance. Yeah. That reluctance need to go away so that Children can excel and reach their maximum potential. I don't see the same reluctance when it comes to sports and games. Let us be fair to all.

[Anonymous]

Should we send an email to counselor and principal or meet in person and ask verbally? I am more inclined to write an email because principal or counselor can respond at their convenience. What is the best approach on asking for Algebra 1 for rising 6th grader?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CES prepared the kids with pre-algebra. Why not give them exposure to Algebra and let them explore the world of mathematics? Why do you want to hold them back because average joes cannot catch up?

CES has absolutely NOTHING to do with math.

Kids in CES have the same math options as other kids in the same school. Most take compacted math, but not all. And lots of non-CES kids take compacted math.

Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.

What’s incorrect? Did they add a special CES-specific math class since my kid went through it?

There has been talk about a few ES schools offering AIM in 5th but not many. Most kids are skipping AIM and going directly into Algebra from compacted math.

The only school I know of that allows that is Frost. People have said you need a 250 on your MAP-M. Our kids were at the TPMS manget and came from an ES that didn't offer AIM in 5th; however, they both had scores in the 270-280 range. Unfortunately, TPMS, like most MCPS MS does not believe this is in the child's best interest. They prefer to provide deeper enrichment.

From what I can tell schools that offer AIM in 5th or acceleration do so reluctantly only because there's a critical mas of tiger parents who demand it.

You mean the parents who care about their children's education and academic performance. Yeah. That reluctance need to go away so that Children can excel and reach their maximum potential. I don't see the same reluctance when it comes to sports and games. Let us be fair to all.

Perhaps that's their motivation but they are causing harm to their offspring more often than not. Pushing kids ahead solely for bragging rights when they're really not ready is harmful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should we send an email to counselor and principal or meet in person and ask verbally? I am more inclined to write an email because principal or counselor can respond at their convenience. What is the best approach on asking for Algebra 1 for rising 6th grader?

THis will only work if your child is at one of the wealthy schools otherwise they'll say no regardless of how advanced your child is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

No clue, but when I asked, I was told that my 6th grader who scored over 300 on their MAP-M was not eligible for 6th-grade algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th. It wasn't offered at our school.

I feel for you. It should not be the parent's fault for not having a house in affluent school zones nor parent's fault for reluctancy in advocating for their kids, yet this kid apparently needs a leg-up. It's the system that's sick.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

AIM is 7th and half of 8th and the other half will be thought along with Algebra.

Just chiming in to add:
This year’s incoming 6th graders did not learn the last 1/3 of 3rd grade math in spring 2020 because of the pandemic. They also had up to 40 percent of compacted math 4/5 condensed or omitted because of virtual learning and no school Wednesdays. They had the majority of compacted 5/6 with just one Eureka module omitted. I personally think skipping math 7 & math 8 for these kids who skipped lots of foundational math the last 3 years is a bit problematic. My child has an astronomically high MAP score in spite of these omissions too, but I feel as though doing all kinds of skipping is going to leave him with some big gaps. I’m not in a race or a competition with anyone and he does complain of boredom in math, but he might be bored in Algebra too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read all 7 pages of posts, and those against acceleration keep saying it’s too much math by the time you get to high school. Whiles Some are saying what about advocating for your kids acceleration.
Why can’t mcps embrace the kids talent and push them more in math so that they are challenged and continue to thrive. Forget about what MIGHT happen at high school level, what about NOW why can’t they be challenged now instead placed in a boring low level math class. Shouldn’t parents advocate for there children so they can learn and thrive and not develop a boredom in school for low level math classes. On a separate note, Isn’t AIM like a review of just 5 and 6 grade math?

AIM is 7th and half of 8th and the other half will be thought along with Algebra.

Just chiming in to add:
This year’s incoming 6th graders did not learn the last 1/3 of 3rd grade math in spring 2020 because of the pandemic. They also had up to 40 percent of compacted math 4/5 condensed or omitted because of virtual learning and no school Wednesdays. They had the majority of compacted 5/6 with just one Eureka module omitted. I personally think skipping math 7 & math 8 for these kids who skipped lots of foundational math the last 3 years is a bit problematic. My child has an astronomically high MAP score in spite of these omissions too, but I feel as though doing all kinds of skipping is going to leave him with some big gaps. I’m not in a race or a competition with anyone and he does complain of boredom in math, but he might be bored in Algebra too.

That's not really true. Our school covered the complete curriculum. I get that some schools where students slacked off didn't do as well, but try not including everyone in these blanket pronouncements.