Alito jokes about foreign reaction to his Dobbs decision

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Anonymous wrote:Context matters. Instead of simply reading the article go to the primary source.
Watch the speech. It was funny, self deprecating and intelligent regardless of one’s political views.
Understanding your adversary’s viewpoint and arguments is invaluable.
Such a lack of intellectual curiosity on DCUM.

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This is true of liberals in general today. Or, I should say, "leftists." Because these people are not at all liberal in the traditional sense of the word.
They protest, shout down, and cancel conservative speakers in law schools, med schools, and universities in general. The mere presence of an opposing view on issues is now viewed as harmful under the new rules that have taken hold of higher education.

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I watched the entire thing. What an intelligent - and brave - person.

I am unaware of any liberal effort to dictate the teaching of certain topics, or to ban and remove books from public libraries.

Is this satire? YLS ring any bells?

You could go to virtually any university and find examples of conservative professors being marginalized for the way they teach certain topics. In many cases, those conservative professors never get a foot in the door to teach.

But this isn’t “liberals” or “leftists” trying to to ban conservative thinking through the engine of the state legislature- it is just people deciding that certain behaviors and actions are not acceptable or what they want. If I am a student at a university and I don’t want someone who has said something racist teaching there I should be entitled to express that opinion. I think sometimes students take things too far but that is my opinion and is up for the administration to decide on how it wants its school to be run

I don’t think I have ever heard anyone who rails against cancel culture expressing distaste of the way that Liberty University or other theologically-based universities are run or the fact that the lean right.

Exactly this. Along with the fact that there are very few conservatives who even go into university teaching in the first place. No surprise either, as conservatives these days attack education, attack higher degrees, and attack universities. Why would any conservative *want* to go into a field that his conservative compatriots demonize nonstop?

The PP complaining about the treatment of conservative professors is just engaging in the perpetual conservative complaints of persecution. The fact is there are plenty of fully conservative universities in this country or ones with conservative leadership or ones with specific academic departments that are conservative. In our own backyard in NOVA, there is GMU where several departments--economics and law--have received large amounts of Koch funding.

George Mason University Becomes a Favorite of Charles Koch
https://apnews.com/article/613470e79eb64a5f9a4880996e0fd7c5

Or there's Catholic Univ. in DC where the leadership is apparently trying to "transform the school into a conservative bastion."

Here is a sample of how leadership is vetting new faculty hires to screen for conservative and Catholic values:

"Increasingly, hires are inspected by the provost department to see not only whether the person who is proposed to be hired is Catholic, but whether that person is a conservative Catholic"

"What I want to understand is, would they be a good mission fit for us?" he said. "Sometimes questions like abortion or the death penalty or religious liberty or immigration will come up, because we talk about the hot-button issues. Catholic University, since we are the bishops' university … we live under a microscope."

A battle over 'Catholic identity' at Catholic University of America
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/battle-over-catholic-identity-catholic-university-america

Want more examples, PP complaining about the treatment of conservative faculty? I can keep going....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Context matters. Instead of simply reading the article go to the primary source.
Watch the speech. It was funny, self deprecating and intelligent regardless of one’s political views.
Understanding your adversary’s viewpoint and arguments is invaluable.
Such a lack of intellectual curiosity on DCUM.

+100
This is true of liberals in general today. Or, I should say, "leftists." Because these people are not at all liberal in the traditional sense of the word.
They protest, shout down, and cancel conservative speakers in law schools, med schools, and universities in general. The mere presence of an opposing view on issues is now viewed as harmful under the new rules that have taken hold of higher education.

+200
I watched the entire thing. What an intelligent - and brave - person.

I am unaware of any liberal effort to dictate the teaching of certain topics, or to ban and remove books from public libraries.

Is this satire? YLS ring any bells?

You could go to virtually any university and find examples of conservative professors being marginalized for the way they teach certain topics. In many cases, those conservative professors never get a foot in the door to teach.

But this isn’t “liberals” or “leftists” trying to to ban conservative thinking through the engine of the state legislature- it is just people deciding that certain behaviors and actions are not acceptable or what they want. If I am a student at a university and I don’t want someone who has said something racist teaching there I should be entitled to express that opinion. I think sometimes students take things too far but that is my opinion and is up for the administration to decide on how it wants its school to be run

I don’t think I have ever heard anyone who rails against cancel culture expressing distaste of the way that Liberty University or other theologically-based universities are run or the fact that the lean right.

Exactly this. Along with the fact that there are very few conservatives who even go into university teaching in the first place. No surprise either, as conservatives these days attack education, attack higher degrees, and attack universities. Why would any conservative *want* to go into a field that his conservative compatriots demonize nonstop?

The PP complaining about the treatment of conservative professors is just engaging in the perpetual conservative complaints of persecution. The fact is there are plenty of fully conservative universities in this country or ones with conservative leadership or ones with specific academic departments that are conservative. In our own backyard in NOVA, there is GMU where several departments--economics and law--have received large amounts of Koch funding.

George Mason University Becomes a Favorite of Charles Koch
https://apnews.com/article/613470e79eb64a5f9a4880996e0fd7c5

Or there's Catholic Univ. in DC where the leadership is apparently trying to "transform the school into a conservative bastion."

Here is a sample of how leadership is vetting new faculty hires to screen for conservative and Catholic values:

"Increasingly, hires are inspected by the provost department to see not only whether the person who is proposed to be hired is Catholic, but whether that person is a conservative Catholic"

"What I want to understand is, would they be a good mission fit for us?" he said. "Sometimes questions like abortion or the death penalty or religious liberty or immigration will come up, because we talk about the hot-button issues. Catholic University, since we are the bishops' university … we live under a microscope."

A battle over 'Catholic identity' at Catholic University of America
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/battle-over-catholic-identity-catholic-university-america

Want more examples, PP complaining about the treatment of conservative faculty? I can keep going....

BahahahahahahahahahA!!!!!!! Conservative professors are treated like sh** at universities and anyone in academia knows it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Context matters. Instead of simply reading the article go to the primary source.
Watch the speech. It was funny, self deprecating and intelligent regardless of one’s political views.
Understanding your adversary’s viewpoint and arguments is invaluable.
Such a lack of intellectual curiosity on DCUM.

+100
This is true of liberals in general today. Or, I should say, "leftists." Because these people are not at all liberal in the traditional sense of the word.
They protest, shout down, and cancel conservative speakers in law schools, med schools, and universities in general. The mere presence of an opposing view on issues is now viewed as harmful under the new rules that have taken hold of higher education.

+200
I watched the entire thing. What an intelligent - and brave - person.

I am unaware of any liberal effort to dictate the teaching of certain topics, or to ban and remove books from public libraries.

Is this satire? YLS ring any bells?

You could go to virtually any university and find examples of conservative professors being marginalized for the way they teach certain topics. In many cases, those conservative professors never get a foot in the door to teach.

But this isn’t “liberals” or “leftists” trying to to ban conservative thinking through the engine of the state legislature- it is just people deciding that certain behaviors and actions are not acceptable or what they want. If I am a student at a university and I don’t want someone who has said something racist teaching there I should be entitled to express that opinion. I think sometimes students take things too far but that is my opinion and is up for the administration to decide on how it wants its school to be run

I don’t think I have ever heard anyone who rails against cancel culture expressing distaste of the way that Liberty University or other theologically-based universities are run or the fact that the lean right.

Exactly this. Along with the fact that there are very few conservatives who even go into university teaching in the first place. No surprise either, as conservatives these days attack education, attack higher degrees, and attack universities. Why would any conservative *want* to go into a field that his conservative compatriots demonize nonstop?

The PP complaining about the treatment of conservative professors is just engaging in the perpetual conservative complaints of persecution. The fact is there are plenty of fully conservative universities in this country or ones with conservative leadership or ones with specific academic departments that are conservative. In our own backyard in NOVA, there is GMU where several departments--economics and law--have received large amounts of Koch funding.

George Mason University Becomes a Favorite of Charles Koch
https://apnews.com/article/613470e79eb64a5f9a4880996e0fd7c5

Or there's Catholic Univ. in DC where the leadership is apparently trying to "transform the school into a conservative bastion."

Here is a sample of how leadership is vetting new faculty hires to screen for conservative and Catholic values:

"Increasingly, hires are inspected by the provost department to see not only whether the person who is proposed to be hired is Catholic, but whether that person is a conservative Catholic"

"What I want to understand is, would they be a good mission fit for us?" he said. "Sometimes questions like abortion or the death penalty or religious liberty or immigration will come up, because we talk about the hot-button issues. Catholic University, since we are the bishops' university … we live under a microscope."

A battle over 'Catholic identity' at Catholic University of America
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/battle-over-catholic-identity-catholic-university-america

Want more examples, PP complaining about the treatment of conservative faculty? I can keep going....

BahahahahahahahahahA!!!!!!! Conservative professors are treated like sh** at universities and anyone in academia knows it.

And what is your position and at which institution of higher learning?

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For all the forced birthers who think making women non-citizen slaves is “liberty,” you are directly violating the Constitution in spirit and in letter.

In texas, $100,000,000 of government money flows to lying forced birther “crisis pregnancy centers.” Want to know how religious they are? They award “points” for attending Bible classes, points redeemable for aid.

“The Texas money comes with one condition that has led many pregnancy centers to turn down state support, Pinson said: To qualify, centers have to ask a client’s permission before they broach anything spiritual. While Pinson agreed to those terms when she began accepting the funding in 2018, the center’s clients are incentivized to sign up for Bible study classes, where attendance is rewarded with “points” redeemable for diapers and baby clothes.

“We have staff that are committed to share Christ with every girl that walks through that door,” Pinson said in a 2019 promotional video, calling the center a “ministry.” Pinson will refer women who need additional support to local churches, which she says do “a beautiful job of coming around mamas and walking them through.”” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/31/pregnancy-center-of-the-coastal-bend-expansion/

Anyone who votes Republican is a christofascist. My god, you idiots.

If your blood pressure is low and you need to raise it, just read this article. What a ducking Tuesday this woman is, referring to women who want or need abortions as “abortion minded.” Her whole business plan is devoted to lying to and tricking women into continuing pregnancies they don’t want.

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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day religious people are always going to feel strange having to cope with cognitive dissonance. They buy into weird stuff. Like Bronze Age stuff. A talking bush. A flood killing everyone and an arc with a bunch of animals. They have to lie to themselves to believe it. Or they get indoctrinated at birth and it’s easier to believe.

These people now control the Supreme Court.

It’s still irrational. They are not acting out of neutrality in these cases.

Please tell me you understand that 99% of religious people do not think any of the things you list are literal, especially Catholics and Episcopalians and Jews. If you are are basing your argument against an opposing point of view on a gross misunderstanding, you already lost. Please educate yourself so you can actually be a force for good in these debates. As soon as you say something ignorant like "ooh they believe a burning bush talked," you are dismissed as an ignoramus.

Oh, okay. That makes sense. For a second I thought they might believe in some fantastical sht, but your anecdotal evidence, 99% statistic, and assuming I am “grossly misunderstanding” everything clears it all up.

So you don’t believe Jesus is the son of God who died for our sins? Was there a flood? Or is that a story? Did Cane kill able? Was water tuned into wine?

What sensible part of it all am I grossly misunderstanding? That’s always the argument when someone says anything critical about religion; “you have no idea! You can’t begin to image what it’s about as a non-believer. You’re not qualified to talk about it!!!!”

Actually, we all are. Your Christian beliefs, and those of the ones on the Supreme Court, have clearly been shown to affect agnostics, non-believers and even the believers of other religions. Like Jewish people, who don’t believe abortion is a sin, but that the mothers life takes precedence.

Studies have shown that many atheists understand the Bible better than Christians.

At the end of the day, this impetus to blur or end line between church and state is only exacerbating a widening chasm. Religious folks are simply scared of losing power and have packed the court, or fallen for Christian nationalism, or are generally much more active in their attempts these days to foist their particular religion upon everyone else. Look at abortion. This is a religiously motivated thing they have done. Now women can’t get proper health care. Little girls like that 10 year old who had to feel Indiana are in jeopardy.

You are are arguing with someone who agrees with you on these issues, but who also can tell you are arguing from a place of weakness and ignorance about the religions you are screeching about. It doesn't help when you are objectivly wrong and mocking in your tone at the same time. Yes, Genesis, the burning bush, and flood are stories. Most of the bible is. Some of it is poetry. Some of it is attempts to recount genealogy and history, which in itself included a retelling of stories. Some of it is letters. All of it is translation upon translation. The number of religious sects who are Bible literalists is minisicule and not at all mainstream. This is the primary fallacy of so many people who mock religions: to assume everyone is a biblical literalist. When you attack by saying "they buy into weird stuff," you are the one being a literalist, and you are the one who sounds ignorant. Theology is the study of what is available, while people search for truths and insight into life and how best to live. It is much debated within and among religions and constantly evolving. At its very base, it's philosophy at its highest intellectual level coupled with the belief that there is a reason for existence.

NP. Where did you get your 99% aren’t literalists stat? What about the people who pick and choose which stories they think are real and which ones they feel are metaphors or poetry? I grew up in a southern baptist church. They’re not literalists, but the people I knew believed the arc and the burning bush were 100% real. I think one of the problems when you try to define religious beliefs among religions that aren’t well structured (anyone can feel the calling and open a church in his barn and start preaching to the 17 people he can convince to come), is that so much of what they do is based on their feelings. They feel like the arc story was real so it was. They feel like Job was a downer so it was an allegory and not literal. They feel like parts of Leviticus were too old fashioned or inconvenient so they leave those out of their lifestyles, but other parts were cool so they feel like they’re essential. You can’t argue with how god makes someone feel, so it must be right. They don’t feel like they’re literalists, so they’re part of the mainstream, even though they feel like the Charlton Heston 10 Commandments movie is gospel and most of the famous Bible stories really happened. I’m not sure it matters what the official church doctrine says when they’re teaching kids in Sunday school that dinosaurs are extinct because there wasn’t room for them on the arc (Sunday school teacher told me that once when I was 6, and defended the statement when my parents asked what was up with me repeating it at home).

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Anonymous wrote:Context matters. Instead of simply reading the article go to the primary source.
Watch the speech. It was funny, self deprecating and intelligent regardless of one’s political views.
Understanding your adversary’s viewpoint and arguments is invaluable.
Such a lack of intellectual curiosity on DCUM.

+100
This is true of liberals in general today. Or, I should say, "leftists." Because these people are not at all liberal in the traditional sense of the word.
They protest, shout down, and cancel conservative speakers in law schools, med schools, and universities in general. The mere presence of an opposing view on issues is now viewed as harmful under the new rules that have taken hold of higher education.

+200
I watched the entire thing. What an intelligent - and brave - person.

I am unaware of any liberal effort to dictate the teaching of certain topics, or to ban and remove books from public libraries.

Is this satire? YLS ring any bells?

You could go to virtually any university and find examples of conservative professors being marginalized for the way they teach certain topics. In many cases, those conservative professors never get a foot in the door to teach.

But this isn’t “liberals” or “leftists” trying to to ban conservative thinking through the engine of the state legislature- it is just people deciding that certain behaviors and actions are not acceptable or what they want. If I am a student at a university and I don’t want someone who has said something racist teaching there I should be entitled to express that opinion. I think sometimes students take things too far but that is my opinion and is up for the administration to decide on how it wants its school to be run

I don’t think I have ever heard anyone who rails against cancel culture expressing distaste of the way that Liberty University or other theologically-based universities are run or the fact that the lean right.

Exactly this. Along with the fact that there are very few conservatives who even go into university teaching in the first place. No surprise either, as conservatives these days attack education, attack higher degrees, and attack universities. Why would any conservative *want* to go into a field that his conservative compatriots demonize nonstop?

The PP complaining about the treatment of conservative professors is just engaging in the perpetual conservative complaints of persecution. The fact is there are plenty of fully conservative universities in this country or ones with conservative leadership or ones with specific academic departments that are conservative. In our own backyard in NOVA, there is GMU where several departments--economics and law--have received large amounts of Koch funding.

George Mason University Becomes a Favorite of Charles Koch
https://apnews.com/article/613470e79eb64a5f9a4880996e0fd7c5

Or there's Catholic Univ. in DC where the leadership is apparently trying to "transform the school into a conservative bastion."

Here is a sample of how leadership is vetting new faculty hires to screen for conservative and Catholic values:

"Increasingly, hires are inspected by the provost department to see not only whether the person who is proposed to be hired is Catholic, but whether that person is a conservative Catholic"

"What I want to understand is, would they be a good mission fit for us?" he said. "Sometimes questions like abortion or the death penalty or religious liberty or immigration will come up, because we talk about the hot-button issues. Catholic University, since we are the bishops' university … we live under a microscope."

A battle over 'Catholic identity' at Catholic University of America
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/battle-over-catholic-identity-catholic-university-america

Want more examples, PP complaining about the treatment of conservative faculty? I can keep going....

BahahahahahahahahahA!!!!!!! Conservative professors are treated like sh** at universities and anyone in academia knows it.

No they’re not. They’re just snowflakes and have a lot of fragility and can’t handle normal criticism and vigorous discussion.

[Anonymous]

Hope Alito feels so proud of himself, making women with ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages travel to nearby states for medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope Alito feels so proud of himself, making women with ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages travel to nearby states for medical care.

The cruelty is the point. He’s a fascist.