Teacher resignation in Arlington Schools very high this year?

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


What the hell are you talking about? We went back in March. Let it go.


After they were first in line for the vaccine. Can’t have it both ways. You skip the line. Go the F back to work.

They went back for 2 freaking days a week. Not even close to an adequate education. But I’m sure your snowflake was fine.


This is false. From March 2021 to June 2021 I was teaching concurrently between two groups of hybrid students and my entire virtual group on site 4 days a week, the exact amount of time my administrators gave us, and every single colleague at my site did the same.

It varied by school and principal. APS lets every school do their own thing. Your experience doesn't negate mine.

One big APS issue is that if you have an issue you can approach your school's principal, but the buck stops there. Syphax will do nothing if your principal makes difference choices than the rest of APS.


Then name the school.

The problem here is you have loud angry people who are saying "yes all APS teachers" when it was a much smaller amount tied to specific schools

No one is yelling all APS teachers. We're yelling that APS admin didnt do its job. Principals were expected to develop their own health and safety measures. They were allowed to come up with their own personnel policies and staffing. They set the tone for what was expected from teachers. They were expected to make decisions well beyond their core competency and when they got it wrong Syphax and the school board ignored the problem.

You want to know one school with major issues? Glebe. It's also the home school for many SMART Restart parents so the principal was heavily lobbied. It led to totally wacky covid policies.


Go back and re-read. There are multiple posts yelling at all teachers.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


What the hell are you talking about? We went back in March. Let it go.


After they were first in line for the vaccine. Can’t have it both ways. You skip the line. Go the F back to work.

They went back for 2 freaking days a week. Not even close to an adequate education. But I’m sure your snowflake was fine.


This is false. From March 2021 to June 2021 I was teaching concurrently between two groups of hybrid students and my entire virtual group on site 4 days a week, the exact amount of time my administrators gave us, and every single colleague at my site did the same.

It varied by school and principal. APS lets every school do their own thing. Your experience doesn't negate mine.

One big APS issue is that if you have an issue you can approach your school's principal, but the buck stops there. Syphax will do nothing if your principal makes difference choices than the rest of APS.


Then name the school.

The problem here is you have loud angry people who are saying "yes all APS teachers" when it was a much smaller amount tied to specific schools

No one is yelling all APS teachers. We're yelling that APS admin didnt do its job. Principals were expected to develop their own health and safety measures. They were allowed to come up with their own personnel policies and staffing. They set the tone for what was expected from teachers. They were expected to make decisions well beyond their core competency and when they got it wrong Syphax and the school board ignored the problem.

You want to know one school with major issues? Glebe. It's also the home school for many SMART Restart parents so the principal was heavily lobbied. It led to totally wacky covid policies.


Go back and re-read. There are multiple posts yelling at all teachers.
There's more than one poster. And no more so than the plethora of posts calling any parent who think APS did a less than stellar job teacher haters.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


What the hell are you talking about? We went back in March. Let it go.


After they were first in line for the vaccine. Can’t have it both ways. You skip the line. Go the F back to work.

They went back for 2 freaking days a week. Not even close to an adequate education. But I’m sure your snowflake was fine.


This is false. From March 2021 to June 2021 I was teaching concurrently between two groups of hybrid students and my entire virtual group on site 4 days a week, the exact amount of time my administrators gave us, and every single colleague at my site did the same.

It varied by school and principal. APS lets every school do their own thing. Your experience doesn't negate mine.

One big APS issue is that if you have an issue you can approach your school's principal, but the buck stops there. Syphax will do nothing if your principal makes difference choices than the rest of APS.


Then name the school.

The problem here is you have loud angry people who are saying "yes all APS teachers" when it was a much smaller amount tied to specific schools

No one is yelling all APS teachers. We're yelling that APS admin didnt do its job. Principals were expected to develop their own health and safety measures. They were allowed to come up with their own personnel policies and staffing. They set the tone for what was expected from teachers. They were expected to make decisions well beyond their core competency and when they got it wrong Syphax and the school board ignored the problem.

You want to know one school with major issues? Glebe. It's also the home school for many SMART Restart parents so the principal was heavily lobbied. It led to totally wacky covid policies.


Go back and re-read. There are multiple posts yelling at all teachers.
There's more than one poster. And no more so than the plethora of posts calling any parent who think APS did a less than stellar job teacher haters.


Nope. Only the posters who shat on teachers were called teacher haters.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


There is a huge difference between being in a hospital room with one ill patient for 10-15 minutes at a time, and being in a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours at a time. In a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours in a room that has poor ventilation and windows that don't open. When your health care work conditions come close to what you expected teachers to do, then we can talk. Until then, sit down and keep your math closed.


Umm, I'm assuming this is a parody of an unhinged 'APS never does anything wrong' poster, right?


??? Parody? The teacher speaks the truth. If you can't see it then you have a big problem.

A doctor or nurse being in a 12x15 hospital room for 10-15 minutes with a masked adult patient is vastly different from a 20x30 classroom with 30 unmasked and unvaccinated children and one teacher breathing that same air for 7 or 8 hours. What world do you live in that you think those two situations are even remotely similar?

Don't tell teachers to do what you refuse to do yourself.

- A Parent
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


There is a huge difference between being in a hospital room with one ill patient for 10-15 minutes at a time, and being in a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours at a time. In a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours in a room that has poor ventilation and windows that don't open. When your health care work conditions come close to what you expected teachers to do, then we can talk. Until then, sit down and keep your math closed.


Umm, I'm assuming this is a parody of an unhinged 'APS never does anything wrong' poster, right?


??? Parody? The teacher speaks the truth. If you can't see it then you have a big problem.

A doctor or nurse being in a 12x15 hospital room for 10-15 minutes with a masked adult patient is vastly different from a 20x30 classroom with 30 unmasked and unvaccinated children and one teacher breathing that same air for 7 or 8 hours. What world do you live in that you think those two situations are even remotely similar?

Don't tell teachers to do what you refuse to do yourself.

- A Parent


Uhh, schools were open in Europe in Spring 2020 and in the US (even private schools in Arlington) in Fall 2020, all without a problem. Schools don't exist to provide employment to teachers, they exist to educate children.

If I committed to educating children for my career, I would have been there teaching for what was an incredibly tiny risk, as the data showed. If I was nervous, I would have called my private school colleagues and other public schools teachers in the US (and would ahve found out how minimal the risk was).

There were even some APS teachers complaining about more than 2 days a week in April 2021, after they got put to the front of the vaccine line in January.

I support 0 pay raises for any APS teacher who was there during that time period.
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You'd think these teachers who refused to go back to work (think the survey was around 60% in Fall 2020) would say "you know, I was wrong then, especially seeing how much damage was done to the most vulnerable children and how tiny the risk actually was (less than driving to school)."

Nope - it's full blown Trumpian, "I did nothing wrong!"
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This is pretty accurate parody of how teachers are treated:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3126370314359784&extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C-GK2C&ref=sharing
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Anonymous wrote:You'd think these teachers who refused to go back to work (think the survey was around 60% in Fall 2020) would say "you know, I was wrong then, especially seeing how much damage was done to the most vulnerable children and how tiny the risk actually was (less than driving to school)."

Nope - it's full blown Trumpian, "I did nothing wrong!"


Can you please find me this data point? I’m searching and cannot find it.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


There is a huge difference between being in a hospital room with one ill patient for 10-15 minutes at a time, and being in a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours at a time. In a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours in a room that has poor ventilation and windows that don't open. When your health care work conditions come close to what you expected teachers to do, then we can talk. Until then, sit down and keep your math closed.


Umm, I'm assuming this is a parody of an unhinged 'APS never does anything wrong' poster, right?


??? Parody? The teacher speaks the truth. If you can't see it then you have a big problem.

A doctor or nurse being in a 12x15 hospital room for 10-15 minutes with a masked adult patient is vastly different from a 20x30 classroom with 30 unmasked and unvaccinated children and one teacher breathing that same air for 7 or 8 hours. What world do you live in that you think those two situations are even remotely similar?

Don't tell teachers to do what you refuse to do yourself.

- A Parent


Uhh, schools were open in Europe in Spring 2020 and in the US (even private schools in Arlington) in Fall 2020, all without a problem. Schools don't exist to provide employment to teachers, they exist to educate children.

If I committed to educating children for my career, I would have been there teaching for what was an incredibly tiny risk, as the data showed. If I was nervous, I would have called my private school colleagues and other public schools teachers in the US (and would ahve found out how minimal the risk was).

There were even some APS teachers complaining about more than 2 days a week in April 2021, after they got put to the front of the vaccine line in January.

I support 0 pay raises for any APS teacher who was there during that time period.


Luv2read this every 11 posts in this cursed thread
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.


That's right, because they classroom monitors that did come in were low paid hourly workers who did not have luxury of not feeling safe. And this is why I hate all the parents and teachers who say this crap and then go on and on and on about equity. It's just a bunch of BS. You want equity when it can be a sign you stick in your yard. When it's actually something that will effect you, forget it!
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Anonymous wrote:I think the reason we are worse is because we were closed so long for COVID. So that means that APS kids had 1) greater learning loss, and 2) fewer social skills because of longer isolation. That means this year would have been a disaster for teachers. Every APS teacher I know was so glad to see the year end!


This.

Teachers really caused their own problem by letting a small group of teachers demand that schools had to remain closed for way too long. If students had returned in person in spring 2021, then things would have been smoother come fall. Can you believe that AEM was pushing and demanding that school not even start in person in Fall 2021?

and then also -

Duran's expectations that then trickled down to admin and then teachers were way, way, way unrealistic. I mean shockingly unrealistic. They did literally nothing to plan for how they were going to address learning loss. The plans were always ad hoc and in response to public outcry. Duran is truly terrible as a leader. I mean really bad. I can't believe parents really aren't more outraged with him. He let the virtual academy become a complete time, resource and attention suck. He spends more time hiring people for equity and diversity than actually doing anything that looks like equity or diversity.


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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


There is a huge difference between being in a hospital room with one ill patient for 10-15 minutes at a time, and being in a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours at a time. In a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours in a room that has poor ventilation and windows that don't open. When your health care work conditions come close to what you expected teachers to do, then we can talk. Until then, sit down and keep your math closed.


Umm, I'm assuming this is a parody of an unhinged 'APS never does anything wrong' poster, right?


??? Parody? The teacher speaks the truth. If you can't see it then you have a big problem.

A doctor or nurse being in a 12x15 hospital room for 10-15 minutes with a masked adult patient is vastly different from a 20x30 classroom with 30 unmasked and unvaccinated children and one teacher breathing that same air for 7 or 8 hours. What world do you live in that you think those two situations are even remotely similar?

Don't tell teachers to do what you refuse to do yourself.

- A Parent


Uhh, schools were open in Europe in Spring 2020 and in the US (even private schools in Arlington) in Fall 2020, all without a problem. Schools don't exist to provide employment to teachers, they exist to educate children.

If I committed to educating children for my career, I would have been there teaching for what was an incredibly tiny risk, as the data showed. If I was nervous, I would have called my private school colleagues and other public schools teachers in the US (and would ahve found out how minimal the risk was).

There were even some APS teachers complaining about more than 2 days a week in April 2021, after they got put to the front of the vaccine line in January.

I support 0 pay raises for any APS teacher who was there during that time period.


Liar, but the real problem here is that my personal children and parent outranked yours in my equation for who to save.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


There is a huge difference between being in a hospital room with one ill patient for 10-15 minutes at a time, and being in a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours at a time. In a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours in a room that has poor ventilation and windows that don't open. When your health care work conditions come close to what you expected teachers to do, then we can talk. Until then, sit down and keep your math closed.


Umm, I'm assuming this is a parody of an unhinged 'APS never does anything wrong' poster, right?


??? Parody? The teacher speaks the truth. If you can't see it then you have a big problem.

A doctor or nurse being in a 12x15 hospital room for 10-15 minutes with a masked adult patient is vastly different from a 20x30 classroom with 30 unmasked and unvaccinated children and one teacher breathing that same air for 7 or 8 hours. What world do you live in that you think those two situations are even remotely similar?

Don't tell teachers to do what you refuse to do yourself.

- A Parent


Uhh, schools were open in Europe in Spring 2020 and in the US (even private schools in Arlington) in Fall 2020, all without a problem. Schools don't exist to provide employment to teachers, they exist to educate children.

If I committed to educating children for my career, I would have been there teaching for what was an incredibly tiny risk, as the data showed. If I was nervous, I would have called my private school colleagues and other public schools teachers in the US (and would ahve found out how minimal the risk was).

There were even some APS teachers complaining about more than 2 days a week in April 2021, after they got put to the front of the vaccine line in January.

I support 0 pay raises for any APS teacher who was there during that time period.


Liar, but the real problem here is that my personal children and parent outranked yours in my equation for who to save.


BAM! Well said and I agree.
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Anonymous wrote:You'd think these teachers who refused to go back to work (think the survey was around 60% in Fall 2020) would say "you know, I was wrong then, especially seeing how much damage was done to the most vulnerable children and how tiny the risk actually was (less than driving to school)."

Nope - it's full blown Trumpian, "I did nothing wrong!"


We all made the best decisions with the info we had at the time.

Quit your tantrums. And grow TF up.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


If a teacher didn't feel safe, then she/he shouldn't have come in. If you felt safe going in then you should have volunteered as a monitor. You didn't. Guess in your mind it was okay for the teacher to risk her life but not okay for you to risk yours. Loser. No wonder your kid is having problems.
I have a job working in healthcare. I was working tons of hours in person even before I was vaccinated.

No APS teacher was risking their life post-vaccine and with masks in spring 2021. That's ridiculous.


There is a huge difference between being in a hospital room with one ill patient for 10-15 minutes at a time, and being in a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours at a time. In a room with 30 unvaccinated children for 7 hours in a room that has poor ventilation and windows that don't open. When your health care work conditions come close to what you expected teachers to do, then we can talk. Until then, sit down and keep your math closed.


Umm, I'm assuming this is a parody of an unhinged 'APS never does anything wrong' poster, right?


??? Parody? The teacher speaks the truth. If you can't see it then you have a big problem.

A doctor or nurse being in a 12x15 hospital room for 10-15 minutes with a masked adult patient is vastly different from a 20x30 classroom with 30 unmasked and unvaccinated children and one teacher breathing that same air for 7 or 8 hours. What world do you live in that you think those two situations are even remotely similar?

Don't tell teachers to do what you refuse to do yourself.

- A Parent


Uhh, schools were open in Europe in Spring 2020 and in the US (even private schools in Arlington) in Fall 2020, all without a problem. Schools don't exist to provide employment to teachers, they exist to educate children.

If I committed to educating children for my career, I would have been there teaching for what was an incredibly tiny risk, as the data showed. If I was nervous, I would have called my private school colleagues and other public schools teachers in the US (and would ahve found out how minimal the risk was).

There were even some APS teachers complaining about more than 2 days a week in April 2021, after they got put to the front of the vaccine line in January.

I support 0 pay raises for any APS teacher who was there during that time period.



You would be a terrible teacher because you have terrible coping skills. And you are way more committed to your pathetic, irrational narrative than you are to reality.

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