OBGYN at Foxhall stole their list when she exited the practice and handed it to new employer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Nurse Practitioner. It is commonplace to have a contractual agreement that you will not contact patients when you leave a practice to pull them with you to the new one. It seems exceedingly odd that this would be done. Regardless of whether it was in a contract or not, it is unprofessional.

She was one of the original owners. Doubtful she had a standard non-compete.

We’ll, if she was one of the original owners, I would guess that there was some agreement about expectations of one of the owners left. Attempting to take all of your patients with you is extremely poor form. Anyone in medicine understands this.

And I bet she followed that. Otherwise the letter would have referenced litigation. That letter was just a watered down mea culpa because people are annoyed that their data was used by a new business.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. If I have a doctor, my relationship is with them, not the firm. I appreciate knowing where they land.

+1 That’s how it works for lawyers.

She should send out a letter to clients *before* she leaves, telling them where she is going.

Also, *her* clients, not the whole practice’s list.

There are ways to do this properly. Stealing data is not it.

It’s unethical for a partner in a business to send out info directing clients to another business while you’re still a partner at the first business. This is always done AFTER the move.

Also, if she was a partner (aka owner) she has every right to take client contact information. You people whining about this, don’t know anything.

This seems like an attack from some disgruntled former colleagues at Foxhall. if she was a founding partner of the practice, she may have rights to the client list. We don't know what her agreement was with the practice.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. If I have a doctor, my relationship is with them, not the firm. I appreciate knowing where they land.

+1 That’s how it works for lawyers.

She should send out a letter to clients *before* she leaves, telling them where she is going.

Also, *her* clients, not the whole practice’s list.

There are ways to do this properly. Stealing data is not it.

It’s unethical for a partner in a business to send out info directing clients to another business while you’re still a partner at the first business. This is always done AFTER the move.

Also, if she was a partner (aka owner) she has every right to take client contact information. You people whining about this, don’t know anything.

This seems like an attack from some disgruntled former colleagues at Foxhall. if she was a founding partner of the practice, she may have rights to the client list. We don't know what her agreement was with the practice.

+1

So she’s got friends and supporters on this thread now. Got it. The facts are the facts. If you got the letter, it is clear she violated HIPAA. Whether it was a little or a lot of information, it was a breach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dunno. If I have a doctor, my relationship is with them, not the firm. I appreciate knowing where they land.

+1 That’s how it works for lawyers.

She should send out a letter to clients *before* she leaves, telling them where she is going.

Also, *her* clients, not the whole practice’s list.

There are ways to do this properly. Stealing data is not it.

It’s unethical for a partner in a business to send out info directing clients to another business while you’re still a partner at the first business. This is always done AFTER the move.

Also, if she was a partner (aka owner) she has every right to take client contact information. You people whining about this, don’t know anything.

This seems like an attack from some disgruntled former colleagues at Foxhall. if she was a founding partner of the practice, she may have rights to the client list. We don't know what her agreement was with the practice.

+1

So she’s got friends and supporters on this thread now. Got it. The facts are the facts. If you got the letter, it is clear she violated HIPAA. Whether it was a little or a lot of information, it was a breach.

You sound a bit unhinged. I have never heard of this woman or used Foxhall practice but this entire thread has a onesided axe grinding quality that made me automatically question the narrative being put forth.

[Anonymous]

She knew exactly what she was doing and how illegal it was to steal that information. She will also get away with it because of her political connections.

[Anonymous]

Pick your battles, people.

[Anonymous]

I’m a longtime Foxhall patient. We don’t know the terms of her agreement if any with Foxhall, if she breached any agreement with them, or that it’s even a HIPAA violation. She did not leave Foxhall to go to a competing OBGYN practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dunno. If I have a doctor, my relationship is with them, not the firm. I appreciate knowing where they land.

+1

I hate when practices won’t tell you where the good doctors go after they leave the practice.

Fox hall should have given her patients her new info from the start.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Malone was never my favorite doc there, but many posters here seem unhinged. That might be a result of the tone and content of the Foxhall letter, but I have to wonder if there isn't racism involved as well.

No one, save for the “class action” poster has been “unhinged”- and that was someone who was probably trying to get people riled up. Have you ever been on DCUM other than this thread? This has been relatively thoughtful by comparison. I don’t care who the doc is (I got the letter) race/sex- I would think this is unethical and unprofessional behavior. Don’t even start with that.

That says a lot more about DCUM than about Dr. Malone, Foxhall, HIPAA or non-competes (which, BTW, are relatively new in professional practices). And,yes, I've been on DCUM for a while, so I know that the tone has become increasingly vitriolic and unproductive across the board.

[Anonymous]

I'm just fascinated that an OBGYN could be this dumb

[Anonymous]

Much ado about nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. If I have a doctor, my relationship is with them, not the firm. I appreciate knowing where they land.

+1

I hate when practices won’t tell you where the good doctors go after they leave the practice.

Fox hall should have given her patients her new info from the start.

It sounds like she’s not practicing anymore, no? She’s working for a menopause product company.

Taking a list of patients who aren’t yours in order to hawk products is shitty at the very least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a longtime Foxhall patient. We don’t know the terms of her agreement if any with Foxhall, if she breached any agreement with them, or that it’s even a HIPAA violation. She did not leave Foxhall to go to a competing OBGYN practice.

It literally says in the letter that is what happened. And to the person who said I am a (ridiculous term) Republican- no. I am neither. And now that people are on this thread, having no idea what happened or any connection to this situation, it’s worthless. It was a good run for many pages. I’m impressed we got this far before it went downhill.

[Anonymous]

Would someone please post the letter?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a longtime Foxhall patient. We don’t know the terms of her agreement if any with Foxhall, if she breached any agreement with them, or that it’s even a HIPAA violation. She did not leave Foxhall to go to a competing OBGYN practice.

It literally says in the letter that is what happened. And to the person who said I am a (ridiculous term) Republican- no. I am neither. And now that people are on this thread, having no idea what happened or any connection to this situation, it’s worthless. It was a good run for many pages. I’m impressed we got this far before it went downhill.

The letter did not disclose the terms of her agreement or if she breached their agreement. If that had happened the letter would have been clear that the practice was taking legal action versus a mealy mouthed reference to HIPAA.