Trying to understand Catholic arguments for and against abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion.

It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

The Catholic Church absolutely is holding a gun to many women’s head - Catholic hospitals impose these nonsensical views on women all the time.

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How many guns do you need to oppress half of the population?

The Catholic Church took hold of all the condoms?

They want to prevent legal access to proper healthcare.

So they didn’t.

Are you having a tough time following? We are taking about Catholics trying to take away healthcare from women because they want to force their religious beliefs on others. This has nothing to do with condoms. Try to keep up.

Again, so they did not. Better luck next time on your defection.

The Catholic Church wants to oppress half the population. They don’t care that women will die as a result of their actions.

Like the PP said, it has NO right to force those views on others.

Can you address the actual issue here instead your idiotic condom red herring? Why do you want to oppress and hurt women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catholic here who favors overturning Roe to remand these determinations back to the states. Has nothing to do with my religious views but rather my view of those things that are the domain of the federal government and those that are the domain of state governments.

The proper way to do something like Roe at the national level is a constitutional amendment like people did a hundred years ago for prohibition.

What a load of bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

But in a secular democracy like the USA, No religion is allowed to enforce its beliefs on citizens.

Neither are you allowed to enforce your beliefs into others.

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Get your Bible off my uterus.

I’m not religious. I don’t need to be to not want your beliefs on me. You think only religious people don’t want you shoving your beliefs on them? No one wants you shoving your beliefs on them. Get your ass off everyone else.

I fully support you making medical decisions for yourself with your doctor. You don’t need me or politicians or random religious wackos making medical decisions for you.

You only want politicians making decisions when it suits your belief.

No, I don’t want any politicians inserting themselves in the exam room.

Oh, but you do if it works in your favor.

No. Not at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic here who favors overturning Roe to remand these determinations back to the states. Has nothing to do with my religious views but rather my view of those things that are the domain of the federal government and those that are the domain of state governments.

The proper way to do something like Roe at the national level is a constitutional amendment like people did a hundred years ago for prohibition.

What a load of bullshit.

Why? This is a view that was widely held immediately post-Roe and during the decades since then.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

But in a secular democracy like the USA, No religion is allowed to enforce its beliefs on citizens.

Neither are you allowed to enforce your beliefs into others.

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Get your Bible off my uterus.

I’m not religious. I don’t need to be to not want your beliefs on me. You think only religious people don’t want you shoving your beliefs on them? No one wants you shoving your beliefs on them. Get your ass off everyone else.

I fully support you making medical decisions for yourself with your doctor. You don’t need me or politicians or random religious wackos making medical decisions for you.

You only want politicians making decisions when it suits your belief.

No, I don’t want any politicians inserting themselves in the exam room.

Oh, but you do if it works in your favor.

No. Not at all.

Yes. You have issue with laws that protect you with regards to healthcare? You must not like the laws that protect you and others.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

But in a secular democracy like the USA, No religion is allowed to enforce its beliefs on citizens.

Neither are you allowed to enforce your beliefs into others.

I don’t want to enforce my beliefs on you. I want access to medical care and to control my reproduction.

You are restricted from going to the doctor? Condoms aren’t sold at your local drugstore? Your doctor is a priest and won’t prescribe birth control? Abortion clinics are not open?

are you honestly trying to argue that reproductive rights are not being limited? ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

Uh, no. You are not allowed to use morals from your religion to create legislation. Are you insane?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

Uh, no. You are not allowed to use morals from your religion to create legislation. Are you insane?

You are twisting what PP said.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

Uh, no. You are not allowed to use morals from your religion to create legislation. Are you insane?

You are twisting what PP said.

No, I'm not. PP is trying to word salad his way around saying it's ok to make laws from your personal religious ideologies.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic here who favors overturning Roe to remand these determinations back to the states. Has nothing to do with my religious views but rather my view of those things that are the domain of the federal government and those that are the domain of state governments.

The proper way to do something like Roe at the national level is a constitutional amendment like people did a hundred years ago for prohibition.

What a load of bullshit.

Why? This is a view that was widely held immediately post-Roe and during the decades since then.

No it’s not. This is a distraction point to undermine women’s healthcare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

Uh, no. You are not allowed to use morals from your religion to create legislation. Are you insane?

You are twisting what PP said.

No, I'm not. PP is trying to word salad his way around saying it's ok to make laws from your personal religious ideologies.

You live in Lala land if you think that laws don’t come from morals with regard to aspects of religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Alyssa Milano talk about moral theology/Christian ethics in this video? That is what we are talking about here.

np then you shouldn't have an abortion. but, MYOB for other women and their families

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Anonymous wrote:Does Alyssa Milano talk about moral theology/Christian ethics in this video? That is what we are talking about here.

np then you shouldn't have an abortion. but, MYOB for other women and their families

Again, read the title.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic here who favors overturning Roe to remand these determinations back to the states. Has nothing to do with my religious views but rather my view of those things that are the domain of the federal government and those that are the domain of state governments.

The proper way to do something like Roe at the national level is a constitutional amendment like people did a hundred years ago for prohibition.

What a load of bullshit.

Why? This is a view that was widely held immediately post-Roe and during the decades since then.

No it’s not. This is a distraction point to undermine women’s healthcare.

It is not a distraction point. It goes to whether Roe has a solid constitutional underpinning or not and, if not, was the Supreme Court going beyond its remit of determining the constitutionality of a law by making policy instead.

You may not care about the separation of powers, but it is the bedrock of our government.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the Catholic Church is explicit that there is no Catholic argument for abortion. Advocating for abortion is a grave sin.

Catholics Church can hold whatever view it wants on abortion. It has NO right to force those views on others.

Catholic Church is not holding a gun to your head.

Using specific religious dogma to make decisions on abortion for all Americans? Of course the Catholic Church is holding a gun to the rest of us who do not subscribe to their ideology. And of course the CC has influence on American lawmakers - to say it doesn't, is blatant dishonesty (which is also a sin).

Laws are alway made with moral understanding. If one gets that from a religion they are allowed to. You are allowed to seek your morals from whatever you want.

Uh, no. You are not allowed to use morals from your religion to create legislation. Are you insane?

You are twisting what PP said.

No, I'm not. PP is trying to word salad his way around saying it's ok to make laws from your personal religious ideologies.

You live in Lala land if you think that laws don’t come from morals with regard to aspects of religion.

Obviously corrupt legislators do this, but that doesn't make it ethical and in line with the Constitution. But apparently there are individuals who can't fathom a cultivation of morality without god/religion.