Charters: When is yours dropping the outdoor mask mandate?

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Anonymous wrote:So has any school heard anything about adopting DC health updated guidance?

Lee just sent a poll to parents. The framing of the choice and language in the email does not have me very optimistic for anything aside from outdoor removal of masks.

PP- will note that even if I disagree with whatever their decision is, the communications and asking for parental input is very commendable and appreciated. I can’t imagine how frustrating it would be to have radio silence

No. You absolutely do not want measurements, that are supposed to be guided by science, to be voted upon by parents.

+100. It's stupid to take parent input. These leaders need to lead.

Agreed, though in some ways they barely even need to do that. They'd just be joining most of the rest of the country and the world.

Right. Just do the thing practically everyone else is doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't these school leaders just be decisive rather than taking parental input?? Nearly every. single. other. school in the country has dropped masks. Be leaders.

Virtue signaling.

Nope. DC parents are know it alls who think they could run the school better than anyone else could because they are high up the totem pole in their organization. You've gotta pretend they're authorities or they have a fit like a toddler. That's why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So has any school heard anything about adopting DC health updated guidance?

Lee just sent a poll to parents. The framing of the choice and language in the email does not have me very optimistic for anything aside from outdoor removal of masks.

PP- will note that even if I disagree with whatever their decision is, the communications and asking for parental input is very commendable and appreciated. I can’t imagine how frustrating it would be to have radio silence

No. You absolutely do not want measurements, that are supposed to be guided by science, to be voted upon by parents.

+100. It's stupid to take parent input. These leaders need to lead.

Agreed, though in some ways they barely even need to do that. They'd just be joining most of the rest of the country and the world.

Right. Just do the thing practically everyone else is doing.

So true. Sigh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

Yeah. I get that during early COVID, we were all running around trying to figure out what was the right thing to do because the situation was so complicated and what we were hearing wasn't necessarily complete or reliable. I was reading studies and trying to make decisions on the basis of that, and I'm sure that school leadership felt like they had to make these kinds of decisions for their communities as well. But we're so past that now. All you have to do is do the thing that public health guidance is telling you to do and that practically everyone else is already doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

You didn't listen to your high school English teacher (your grammar, egads!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

Yeah. I get that during early COVID, we were all running around trying to figure out what was the right thing to do because the situation was so complicated and what we were hearing wasn't necessarily complete or reliable. I was reading studies and trying to make decisions on the basis of that, and I'm sure that school leadership felt like they had to make these kinds of decisions for their communities as well. But we're so past that now. All you have to do is do the thing that public health guidance is telling you to do and that practically everyone else is already doing.

I agree but the majority of DCPS schools have very low vax rate if the total vax percentage in DC for kids is in the 20’s. So these families likely want all kids to be masked. The school vax rate does not correlate with community vax rates and why it’s important to know what the vax rate is in your school. Just like how the CDC base their recommendations on vax rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

You didn't listen to your high school English teacher (your grammar, egads!)

Seriously? You are grammar policing DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

You didn't listen to your high school English teacher (your grammar, egads!)

NP. Please enlighten this ESL speaker where the grammar problem is in the PP’s post? Do you mean the informal use of “amirite”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

You didn't listen to your high school English teacher (your grammar, egads!)

Seriously? You are grammar policing DCUM?

It’s a preferred tactic when they run out of arguments, haven’t you noticed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

Yeah. I get that during early COVID, we were all running around trying to figure out what was the right thing to do because the situation was so complicated and what we were hearing wasn't necessarily complete or reliable. I was reading studies and trying to make decisions on the basis of that, and I'm sure that school leadership felt like they had to make these kinds of decisions for their communities as well. But we're so past that now. All you have to do is do the thing that public health guidance is telling you to do and that practically everyone else is already doing.

I agree but the majority of DCPS schools have very low vax rate if the total vax percentage in DC for kids is in the 20’s. So these families likely want all kids to be masked. The school vax rate does not correlate with community vax rates and why it’s important to know what the vax rate is in your school. Just like how the CDC base their recommendations on vax rate.

And the kids who are not vax likely also have parents and extended families not vax

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

Yeah. I get that during early COVID, we were all running around trying to figure out what was the right thing to do because the situation was so complicated and what we were hearing wasn't necessarily complete or reliable. I was reading studies and trying to make decisions on the basis of that, and I'm sure that school leadership felt like they had to make these kinds of decisions for their communities as well. But we're so past that now. All you have to do is do the thing that public health guidance is telling you to do and that practically everyone else is already doing.

I agree but the majority of DCPS schools have very low vax rate if the total vax percentage in DC for kids is in the 20’s. So these families likely want all kids to be masked. The school vax rate does not correlate with community vax rates and why it’s important to know what the vax rate is in your school. Just like how the CDC base their recommendations on vax rate.

We have no idea what "these families likely want." Furthermore, these families aren't public health authorities either.

I was keen on tying the vaccination rates to masking for a while there, too, but given that 1) we don't have a strong signal that vaccination does a lot for transmission reduction for the 5-11 year olds, 2) cases really aren't that meaningful any more, 3) there are low rates of severe illness for kids anyway (with or without vax), I've begun thinking that vaccination isn't that important *in making decisions about schools*. Yes, vaccination is very important for older people in preventing them from severe illness and death. I just think it's not that important regarding kids (new variants may change that).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

Yeah. I get that during early COVID, we were all running around trying to figure out what was the right thing to do because the situation was so complicated and what we were hearing wasn't necessarily complete or reliable. I was reading studies and trying to make decisions on the basis of that, and I'm sure that school leadership felt like they had to make these kinds of decisions for their communities as well. But we're so past that now. All you have to do is do the thing that public health guidance is telling you to do and that practically everyone else is already doing.

I agree but the majority of DCPS schools have very low vax rate if the total vax percentage in DC for kids is in the 20’s. So these families likely want all kids to be masked. The school vax rate does not correlate with community vax rates and why it’s important to know what the vax rate is in your school. Just like how the CDC base their recommendations on vax rate.

And the kids who are not vax likely also have parents and extended families not vax

Are you seriously suggesting that they can refuse to get vaccinated and then demand that everyone else keep masking to protect them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our charter is dropping it this coming week thank goodness.

Would you mind sharing which one? Is this outside only or also inside optional? I am guessing you don't have a health check or 10 day quarantine.

MV, no outdoor mask starting this week. No health check. Vaccinated asymptomatic kids do not have to quarantine. We have a very high vax rate, high 70%, so basically only kids not vax are ECE kids. Positive Covid cases 7 day quarantine.

They also said they are reviewing new changes with mask optional now and will let us know in a week or so about that. Hopefully indoor will be dropped too.

IMO they have done a really good job with school wide testing , protocols, and keeping classes open during the Omicron surge. They are very transparent about number of cases at the school and the data is sent out in the weekly bulletin to families. Cases at our school have been low. I think this helps with decision making hopefully in lifting indoor masks.

DC has left the masking decision to schools. If your school doesn’t know their vax rate and case rate and don’t have the data, then I’m not sure how the principal or leadership can make these decisions on a school by school basis.

I’m all for following CDC guidelines but it doesn’t sound like OSSE is mandating lifting indoor masking so it sounds like it will be up to individula schools.

They could just follow CDC guidance, which is actually the right thing to do. School principals aren't public health authorities and shouldn't be making public health decisions. Listen to experts, amirite?

Yeah. I get that during early COVID, we were all running around trying to figure out what was the right thing to do because the situation was so complicated and what we were hearing wasn't necessarily complete or reliable. I was reading studies and trying to make decisions on the basis of that, and I'm sure that school leadership felt like they had to make these kinds of decisions for their communities as well. But we're so past that now. All you have to do is do the thing that public health guidance is telling you to do and that practically everyone else is already doing.

I agree but the majority of DCPS schools have very low vax rate if the total vax percentage in DC for kids is in the 20’s. So these families likely want all kids to be masked. The school vax rate does not correlate with community vax rates and why it’s important to know what the vax rate is in your school. Just like how the CDC base their recommendations on vax rate.

We have no idea what "these families likely want." Furthermore, these families aren't public health authorities either.

I was keen on tying the vaccination rates to masking for a while there, too, but given that 1) we don't have a strong signal that vaccination does a lot for transmission reduction for the 5-11 year olds, 2) cases really aren't that meaningful any more, 3) there are low rates of severe illness for kids anyway (with or without vax), I've begun thinking that vaccination isn't that important *in making decisions about schools*. Yes, vaccination is very important for older people in preventing them from severe illness and death. I just think it's not that important regarding kids (new variants may change that).

You live in a bubble PP. The kids don’t live by themselves, they go home to parents who likely have lots of co-morbidities and grandparents who live with them who may not be vax.