What happens with the Big3 kids who have sub 3.0 GPAs?

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Anonymous wrote:They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

Not sure what point you are making, but the vast majority of Big3 kids are full pay everywhere. They are generally very wealthy and have been paying $50k+ for k-12 grade. Cost is not an issue for most families.

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Anonymous wrote:They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

Not sure what point you are making, but the vast majority of Big3 kids are full pay everywhere. They are generally very wealthy and have been paying $50k+ for k-12 grade. Cost is not an issue for most families.

Which is probably the point PP was making. There are schools that sound good enough that will take a full pay marginal student coming out of the right high school. Those same students would be looking at third tier public schools if they needed aid.

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Anonymous wrote:They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

Not sure what point you are making, but the vast majority of Big3 kids are full pay everywhere. They are generally very wealthy and have been paying $50k+ for k-12 grade. Cost is not an issue for most families.

Which is probably the point PP was making. There are schools that sound good enough that will take a full pay marginal student coming out of the right high school. Those same students would be looking at third tier public schools if they needed aid.

Are Trinity, Elon, TCU etc.. those kind of schools which would take a marginal student as long as they are full pay? Not sure what third tier public schools are , VCU?

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Anonymous wrote:They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

This.

Go trin trin!

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Anonymous wrote:They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

Not sure what point you are making, but the vast majority of Big3 kids are full pay everywhere. They are generally very wealthy and have been paying $50k+ for k-12 grade. Cost is not an issue for most families.

Which is probably the point PP was making. There are schools that sound good enough that will take a full pay marginal student coming out of the right high school. Those same students would be looking at third tier public schools if they needed aid.

Are Trinity, Elon, TCU etc.. those kind of schools which would take a marginal student as long as they are full pay? Not sure what third tier public schools are , VCU?

Vcu might be tougher to get in to, simply more competition plus they have their honors programs and dish out aid to try to pick off string academics.

Face it small private schools with classes of 100-140 students per grade try to push the sub 3.0 kids to small 2000 person colleges that cost $60-90k and have more each day holding or just totally liberal kumbaya. Then the kid just go to grad school since limited recruiting only to successful alums. So you’re setting yourself up for 6-8 years of school to be marketable.

[Anonymous]

Counselors convince little coddled private school kids to apply to little colleges. Frankly going to a Big 10 would be great for their personal development and alum network expansion.

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Anonymous wrote:Counselors convince little coddled private school kids to apply to little colleges. Frankly going to a Big 10 would be great for their personal development and alum network expansion.

What are these little colleges that will take a 2.7 full pay student? Please provide a list.

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Anonymous wrote:Counselors convince little coddled private school kids to apply to little colleges. Frankly going to a Big 10 would be great for their personal development and alum network expansion.

The more I read DCUM the less i believe in America’s democratic/anyone can succeed myth.

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Anonymous wrote:Counselors convince little coddled private school kids to apply to little colleges. Frankly going to a Big 10 would be great for their personal development and alum network expansion.

What are these little colleges that will take a 2.7 full pay student? Please provide a list.

Yes, please do tell us, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

Not sure what point you are making, but the vast majority of Big3 kids are full pay everywhere. They are generally very wealthy and have been paying $50k+ for k-12 grade. Cost is not an issue for most families.

Which is probably the point PP was making. There are schools that sound good enough that will take a full pay marginal student coming out of the right high school. Those same students would be looking at third tier public schools if they needed aid.

Are Trinity, Elon, TCU etc.. those kind of schools which would take a marginal student as long as they are full pay? Not sure what third tier public schools are , VCU?

Vcu might be tougher to get in to, simply more competition plus they have their honors programs and dish out aid to try to pick off string academics.

Face it small private schools with classes of 100-140 students per grade try to push the sub 3.0 kids to small 2000 person colleges that cost $60-90k and have more each day holding or just totally liberal kumbaya. Then the kid just go to grad school since limited recruiting only to successful alums. So you’re setting yourself up for 6-8 years of school to be marketable.

People, VCU has a 91% acceptance rate. I doubt the 9% getting rejected are Sidwell 2.8 GPA kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Counselors convince little coddled private school kids to apply to little colleges. Frankly going to a Big 10 would be great for their personal development and alum network expansion.

What are these little colleges that will take a 2.7 full pay student? Please provide a list.

Yes, please do tell us, PP.

Just in Virginia, Hampden Sydney, Sweet Briar, Randolph-Macon, and Lynchburg will all take your kid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends if they are full pay.

I'd think it's still hard even with full pay. That's not taken in to account at many colleges these days.

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

My older was in a big 3 and graduated a few years ago. More than half the kids in the grade went to IVY/NESCAC/Stanford/Northwestern/Chicago/topSLAC.

The rest went to places like NYU, Tulane and that tier. There were a handful that went to schools that some here would scoff at, smaller PA/OH SLACs but they were full ride athletes. There literally wasn't a school on the grade-wide list that I would shake my head and say "why go to 'big3' and end up there" - not a single one.

You need to specify what is “a few years ago.” It likely isn’t in the past five years. And if you account for SES, the sub 3.0 kids from the Big 3 go to the same colleges as the sub 3.0 kids from the W pyramid.

This is due to the increase in the number of foreign students especially from China who apply to US colleges and universities. These kids are all full pay too, no financial aid for foreigners. So for an Ivy or similar, kids are competing internationally for a spot.

I thought Ivies do not give priority to full-pay kids. It would be a different story if you donate $2+ millions. What's your basis that Ivies give priority to kids from China because they are full-pay?

I think many Chinese students are more academically qualified than the average American high achiever in HS, so there is that too. I don't think it's financially based. There are many rich Americans willing to pay full tuition who's kids don't get in with excellent applications. Its a different level of work ethic and pressure but on them at a younger age.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there are a decent number because I know a quite a few and have one. our school gives out a fair number of Cs and there are many kids with straight Bs/Cs. potentially even 25% of the class? What happens to them in regards to college? They seem to still get in fairly ok places?

What do you mean by "what happens"? Those kids will be mixed with public kids with sub 3.0 and end up somewhere 5th tier or 6th tier schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there are a decent number because I know a quite a few and have one. our school gives out a fair number of Cs and there are many kids with straight Bs/Cs. potentially even 25% of the class? What happens to them in regards to college? They seem to still get in fairly ok places?

What do you mean by "what happens"? Those kids will be mixed with public kids with sub 3.0 and end up somewhere 5th tier or 6th tier schools.

LOL. Not true at all.