OMICRON to send us back to distance learning

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Right….including increase in kid hospitalization.

I guess I don’t understand the barely concealed glee. You are free to homeschool your kid or do virtual learning. But it was a disaster for so many. Is it just so you can gloat about how much better a parent you think you are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Omicron is spreading much faster and the kids are faring worse in South Africa than under Delta. Plus more kids in America were hospitalized under Delta than before. We don't want more kids in the hospital with a more transmissible variant. I wouldn't downplay this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Omicron is spreading much faster and the kids are faring worse in South Africa than under Delta. Plus more kids in America were hospitalized under Delta than before. We don't want more kids in the hospital with a more transmissible variant. I wouldn't downplay this one.

What is your source for these statements?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Right….including increase in kid hospitalization.

I guess I don’t understand the barely concealed glee. You are free to homeschool your kid or do virtual learning. But it was a disaster for so many. Is it just so you can gloat about how much better a parent you think you are?

You are really off base, and I think anyone who thinks virtual or in person makes them a better or worse parent is very insecure. I'm raising this because I don't want kids to get sick and there seems to be real threat out there that could make them sick. People need to be aware and do what they can to limit risks. Now is a good time to make sure you have KN95s for your kids and that their classrooms have good ventilation - even a Corsi air box does a lot of good to clear the air of virus.

Let's not rehash political school drama right now. This is serious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Omicron is spreading much faster and the kids are faring worse in South Africa than under Delta. Plus more kids in America were hospitalized under Delta than before. We don't want more kids in the hospital with a more transmissible variant. I wouldn't downplay this one.

What is your source for these statements?

Here you go:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Right….including increase in kid hospitalization.

I guess I don’t understand the barely concealed glee. You are free to homeschool your kid or do virtual learning. But it was a disaster for so many. Is it just so you can gloat about how much better a parent you think you are?

I think you are confusing glee with sarcasm and/or terror

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Omicron is spreading much faster and the kids are faring worse in South Africa than under Delta. Plus more kids in America were hospitalized under Delta than before. We don't want more kids in the hospital with a more transmissible variant. I wouldn't downplay this one.

What is your source for these statements?

Here you go:

How many of those kids are vaccinated? How many have vaccinated family members? We can't make decisions about without that information. As we saw with Delta, the risk to children in highly vaccinated communities was not significantly greater.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not happening in the US. Democrats won’t advocate for it anymore. The situation would have to be dire and one report of increased hospitalization among 0-4 won’t do it.

I say that a boosted teacher with two 0-4 kids. I hope the FDA will approve the vaccine for my kids soon. My pediatrician thought maybe by February.

I don't see how omicron doesn't spread before a vaccine for that age group. 9% of people coming into Amsterdam are testing positive despite pre-flight tests and vaccination. There is an urgency here.

Literally the same things were said about Delta and we did okay here

Omicron is spreading much faster and the kids are faring worse in South Africa than under Delta. Plus more kids in America were hospitalized under Delta than before. We don't want more kids in the hospital with a more transmissible variant. I wouldn't downplay this one.

What is your source for these statements?

Here you go:

How many of those kids are vaccinated? How many have vaccinated family members? We can't make decisions about without that information. As we saw with Delta, the risk to children in highly vaccinated communities was not significantly greater.

Presumably none of the 0-4 kids, which is why the incidence has gone up. If you read further in the thread, most hospitalizations were also just for IV hydration, which is common for toddlers for all illnesses. Regarding 5+, it looks like only 2% were vaccinated, way more unvaccinated, and for the rest of them, vaccination status was unknown. The data here is not great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the way it is reported and the subsequent flights cancelled from Africa to numerous countries should we expect virtual learning starting next year (right after Christmas celebrations)?

That woald be so much fun to relive those fun memories all over once more!

I think people should mentally prepare for the possibility if not likelihood.

Weird I didn’t know kindergarten started with 4 year olds

No, but how do you protect young children if this impacts American kids too. Valid question.

Start by getting vaccinated. We aren't going to continue to give kids less because adults refuse to get vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the way it is reported and the subsequent flights cancelled from Africa to numerous countries should we expect virtual learning starting next year (right after Christmas celebrations)?

That woald be so much fun to relive those fun memories all over once more!

I think people should mentally prepare for the possibility if not likelihood.

Weird I didn’t know kindergarten started with 4 year olds

No, but how do you protect young children if this impacts American kids too. Valid question.

Start by getting vaccinated. We aren't going to continue to give kids less because adults refuse to get vaccinated.

Triple vaxxed and I agree with you. I still think we need to think about how to protect kids right now while we have time to plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the way it is reported and the subsequent flights cancelled from Africa to numerous countries should we expect virtual learning starting next year (right after Christmas celebrations)?

That woald be so much fun to relive those fun memories all over once more!

I think people should mentally prepare for the possibility if not likelihood.

Weird I didn’t know kindergarten started with 4 year olds

No, but how do you protect young children if this impacts American kids too. Valid question.

Start by getting vaccinated. We aren't going to continue to give kids less because adults refuse to get vaccinated.

Triple vaxxed and I agree with you. I still think we need to think about how to protect kids right now while we have time to plan.

Kids who are healthy are already given by nature something called immune system. Respect those innocent souls and leave them alone. DO NOT MAKE THEM A GUINEA PIG IN A MEDICAL EXPERIMENT.

I take you don't even give your kid tylenol? Not natural right? Got to rely on that immune system

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the way it is reported and the subsequent flights cancelled from Africa to numerous countries should we expect virtual learning starting next year (right after Christmas celebrations)?

That woald be so much fun to relive those fun memories all over once more!

I think people should mentally prepare for the possibility if not likelihood.

Weird I didn’t know kindergarten started with 4 year olds

No, but how do you protect young children if this impacts American kids too. Valid question.

Start by getting vaccinated. We aren't going to continue to give kids less because adults refuse to get vaccinated.

Triple vaxxed and I agree with you. I still think we need to think about how to protect kids right now while we have time to plan.

Kids who are healthy are already given by nature something called immune system. Respect those innocent souls and leave them alone. DO NOT MAKE THEM A GUINEA PIG IN A MEDICAL EXPERIMENT.

I take you don't even give your kid tylenol? Not natural right? Got to rely on that immune system

Good parents keep their kids safe so that they never need Tylenol. If your kid is getting fevers, you deserve to have them taken away.

[Anonymous]

I teach in a primary grades building. We've had 4 cases (out of about 150 kids) since Thanksgiving, which is a lot for us. I don't think we're going to shut down if/when things get a lot worse, but I do think that all clubs and sports in schools are going to get cancelled. I also think there's no way that schools are going to require vaccinations for everyone, kids included,in buildings next fall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/omicron-public-weary-restrictions/2021/11/29/3832e4aa-508b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html

"If there is a major resurgence of the pandemic, the political will for the harshest virus mitigation measures has largely evaporated even in the most liberal parts of the country, which have been the most open to restrictions, experts say.

“The threshold to shut things down is going to be much higher than it was,” said Robert Wachter, who chairs the Department of Medicine at the University of California at San Francisco. “One of the durable takeaway lessons is that the closing of schools is really a terrible thing to do and should be avoided at all costs.”"

Amen. Kids need in-person school. We will be ok. Mask and vaccinate.

—a teacher

Different teacher.

Kids don't "need" in-person school. It is a "nice to have" not a "must have." Do parents "need" childcare? Yes. That's the reason why schools may stay open even after kids and teachers start to die.

There is no vaccine yet that is effective against Omicron.

Perhaps you’re trolling or just burned out. I’m a little toasty this year and am often grappling with how to work with students post remote learning (and my kids are a relatively privileged group but are still behind), but I can’t imagine any teacher who hasn’t given up completely making such a statement.

Different teacher here-
In-person instruction is a nice to have, not a need. The only needs out there are: food, water, and air….and I’ll through in shelter and clothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/omicron-public-weary-restrictions/2021/11/29/3832e4aa-508b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html

"If there is a major resurgence of the pandemic, the political will for the harshest virus mitigation measures has largely evaporated even in the most liberal parts of the country, which have been the most open to restrictions, experts say.

“The threshold to shut things down is going to be much higher than it was,” said Robert Wachter, who chairs the Department of Medicine at the University of California at San Francisco. “One of the durable takeaway lessons is that the closing of schools is really a terrible thing to do and should be avoided at all costs.”"

Amen. Kids need in-person school. We will be ok. Mask and vaccinate.

—a teacher

Different teacher.

Kids don't "need" in-person school. It is a "nice to have" not a "must have." Do parents "need" childcare? Yes. That's the reason why schools may stay open even after kids and teachers start to die.

There is no vaccine yet that is effective against Omicron.

Perhaps you’re trolling or just burned out. I’m a little toasty this year and am often grappling with how to work with students post remote learning (and my kids are a relatively privileged group but are still behind), but I can’t imagine any teacher who hasn’t given up completely making such a statement.

Different teacher here-
In-person instruction is a nice to have, not a need. The only needs out there are: food, water, and air….and I’ll through in shelter and clothing.

+1 From a parent and a teacher.