Coaches Intel - The Demise of GA...possibly

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Anonymous wrote:16 hours a day. I assume your spouse gets your kid to all those practices then? In reality you work 9-10 hours a day and every once in a while work 12 or so. Unless you’re a farmer, then I believe you.

You don’t need to believe me. I’m not trying to convince you. In fact, don’t believe me to your hearts content. Doesn’t effect my life one bit.

However, let me tell you something most people don’t learn growing up in their bubble wrapped echo chamber in the DMV.

There are many people who double their pay by working lots of overtime. There are plenty of blue collar people making 150,000 - 200,000 based on their effort and desire to have more. That money comes from consistently working 12-16 hour days. It comes from sacrifice.

There are plumbers making as much as lawyers. Only difference is the plumber has to work twice as much to earn the same income.

There are lots of ways to get money….if you’re willing to sacrifice.

Some people are cut from a different cloth.

Oh shut up. God your self righteousness is nauseating.

It’s not self righteousness. It’s facts that you’re uncomfortable with.

I’m glad I’m not you then. I was raised to work smarter not longer. I admire your work ethic I guess, but too bad you never had time to spend with your family.

Don’t be sad for me. I’m not an absentee father. I’m a working father.

We do agree on one point. I tell my kids all the time - If you want to make money - Get a good education with a marketable degree or learn a trade and make the same money worker longer hours.

The choice is theirs - but it won’t be because of a lack of opportunity on my part.

Adulting 101 - Provide

Nobody is sad for you.

But working 16 hours a day you must have to text them that parental advice.

I'm also glad that you believe working 16 hours a day is a privilege and the American dream because our economy requires you to believe it. Quality life you're living. I'm sure you have stuff though.

Privilege is the wrong word, used improperly here and elsewhere entirely too much. Privilege is what you are given. Demand for your services is what you earn. There are plenty of people with some forms of privilege who see immense variation in the demand for their talent. It is indeed a benefit of living here that talented people may have the choice to earn more money by working more. If you don't view demand for your labor as a benefit, you don't understand the absence of opportunity historically in this country for some people and in some eras, or the absence of opportunity in other parts of the world, and the impact it has on families. And neither will your kids. And mine will see them from the passing lane. Enjoy your familial descent down the ladder of mobility.

Says the guy working 16 hours a day.

Says a different poster. You don’t understand work ethic and upper mobility. Ask your local nurse how many double shifts she does to earn money. The fact that working 16 hours in unbelievable to you says a lot.

It is time spent. It is time away. If you are spending 16 hours a day at work and don't own the company then you are not being properly compensated in the first place. It isn't about work ethic, it is about who owns every waking moment of your day. If you have to work 16 hours a day what do you have of your own autonomy.

If the only time you are home is simply to sleep then you are owned. You don't even have your own time to yourself.

It’s about work ethic. Either You don’t understand how people get ahead or you’re not willing to put in the work to get ahead.

You're not getting ahead if you spend 16 hours a day at the job.

If you need to work 16 hours a day to "get ahead" then you are woefully undercompensated.

You don’t understand getting ahead. Getting ahead of your current situation. Even Millionaires can get ahead.

All you have is your time. If you are not working to improving your situation by changing a career all you’ll ever have is every waking hour to earn whatever it is you earn.

You are not in fact getting ahead if you are not able to make that same income with half your time invested. Sorry, but you’re just not home and your life isn’t improving other than paying bills.

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Anonymous wrote:16 hours a day. I assume your spouse gets your kid to all those practices then? In reality you work 9-10 hours a day and every once in a while work 12 or so. Unless you’re a farmer, then I believe you.

You don’t need to believe me. I’m not trying to convince you. In fact, don’t believe me to your hearts content. Doesn’t effect my life one bit.

However, let me tell you something most people don’t learn growing up in their bubble wrapped echo chamber in the DMV.

There are many people who double their pay by working lots of overtime. There are plenty of blue collar people making 150,000 - 200,000 based on their effort and desire to have more. That money comes from consistently working 12-16 hour days. It comes from sacrifice.

There are plumbers making as much as lawyers. Only difference is the plumber has to work twice as much to earn the same income.

There are lots of ways to get money….if you’re willing to sacrifice.

Some people are cut from a different cloth.

Oh shut up. God your self righteousness is nauseating.

It’s not self righteousness. It’s facts that you’re uncomfortable with.

I’m glad I’m not you then. I was raised to work smarter not longer. I admire your work ethic I guess, but too bad you never had time to spend with your family.

Don’t be sad for me. I’m not an absentee father. I’m a working father.

We do agree on one point. I tell my kids all the time - If you want to make money - Get a good education with a marketable degree or learn a trade and make the same money worker longer hours.

The choice is theirs - but it won’t be because of a lack of opportunity on my part.

Adulting 101 - Provide

Nobody is sad for you.

But working 16 hours a day you must have to text them that parental advice.

I'm also glad that you believe working 16 hours a day is a privilege and the American dream because our economy requires you to believe it. Quality life you're living. I'm sure you have stuff though.

Privilege is the wrong word, used improperly here and elsewhere entirely too much. Privilege is what you are given. Demand for your services is what you earn. There are plenty of people with some forms of privilege who see immense variation in the demand for their talent. It is indeed a benefit of living here that talented people may have the choice to earn more money by working more. If you don't view demand for your labor as a benefit, you don't understand the absence of opportunity historically in this country for some people and in some eras, or the absence of opportunity in other parts of the world, and the impact it has on families. And neither will your kids. And mine will see them from the passing lane. Enjoy your familial descent down the ladder of mobility.

Says the guy working 16 hours a day.

Says a different poster. You don’t understand work ethic and upper mobility. Ask your local nurse how many double shifts she does to earn money. The fact that working 16 hours in unbelievable to you says a lot.

It is time spent. It is time away. If you are spending 16 hours a day at work and don't own the company then you are not being properly compensated in the first place. It isn't about work ethic, it is about who owns every waking moment of your day. If you have to work 16 hours a day what do you have of your own autonomy.

If the only time you are home is simply to sleep then you are owned. You don't even have your own time to yourself.

It’s about work ethic. Either You don’t understand how people get ahead or you’re not willing to put in the work to get ahead.

You're not getting ahead if you spend 16 hours a day at the job.

If you need to work 16 hours a day to "get ahead" then you are woefully undercompensated.

You don’t understand getting ahead. Getting ahead of your current situation. Even Millionaires can get ahead.

All you have is your time. If you are not working to improving your situation by changing a career all you’ll ever have is every waking hour to earn whatever it is you earn.

You are not in fact getting ahead if you are not able to make that same income with half your time invested. Sorry, but you’re just not home and your life isn’t improving other than paying bills.

I think I get it. If you’re only doing those crazy hours to get ahead and are aiming for a specific goal and it’s temporary, that’s great! And if that’s the best way for you to do bc it is in a profession that your good at, that would be the most efficient way instead of going back to school to get into a more lucrative profession or perhaps less labor intensive job. As previous posters have recognized, your work ethic is admirable.

Just ignore the PPs here. A lot of them are earning more than you working 40 hr jobs and poss have given up more lucrative jobs to have manageable hours. My father did the same as you and while I always knew that was not going to be my career path, obviously his work ethic/sacrifices is a major reason I am in a profession that pays a lot for a 40 hr week.

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What the h is this thread even about? You want to get a head? You gotta buy her flowers, dinner, be nice and maybe you get it. 16 hours? F that. 24/7. I’m all in.

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Back to the actual topic. Is there any actual word on the grapevine of GA clubs looking to move to ECNL this coming year?

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the actual topic. Is there any actual word on the grapevine of GA clubs looking to move to ECNL this coming year?

No. Even after looking for 16 hours a day I find no news in this subject. 😀

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the actual topic. Is there any actual word on the grapevine of GA clubs looking to move to ECNL this coming year?

No. Even after looking for 16 hours a day I find no news in this subject. 😀

Your work ethic sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the actual topic. Is there any actual word on the grapevine of GA clubs looking to move to ECNL this coming year?

No. Even after looking for 16 hours a day I find no news in this subject. 😀

Sorry - I’m back - was enjoying my Saturday night out - spoils of my effort -

This thread is off topics because the joker above wants to drive home a point that soccer is for the children of the affluent and that half of society doesn’t participate because of cost - and that if everyone participated the affluent kids would be pushed out -

The poster, no doubt, subscribes to classism and has an inability to understand that there are ways to provide your kid more opportunities. For some people, that means working more to get ahead.

The poster also has an inability to understand that not every kid participating in ECNL or GA is from affluent parents and that working lots of overtime and/or two jobs to make it work.

The poster further doesn’t understand that working 16 hours doesn’t mean you are unjustly compensated. It means you are making a decision to obtain extra compensation to pay for the extra things you may want in life above survival. For some people, that’s soccer. For others, it’s Khan Academy.

The poster has obviously never been amongst workers with the ability to mKe overtime or “work doubles”.

The poster further doesn’t understand the overtime is typically time and a half or double time - which is fair compensation.

The poster doesn’t understand that while there are times that overtime may be involuntary, most people voluntarily choose to do it.

So back to the original point - not all ECNL or GA players come from affluent families. And if you were actually apart of either league, which you are not, you would know that.

Sounds like you’re on the outside looking in and feel a certain way about it.

I said my piece - I’m done - enjoy

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Any poster that thinks the top youth leagues (except for the funded teams) are not exclusionary by cost is living in lala land. You simple do not find low income talent in these leagues with a few exceptions.

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And so what? It is fine to run a soccer program for kids that can pay but don't pretend that it is something that it is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Any poster that thinks the top youth leagues (except for the funded teams) are not exclusionary by cost is living in lala land. You simple do not find low income talent in these leagues with a few exceptions.

It’s pay to play. It’s not free. We get it. It cost between 8 - 10,000 a year. We understand.

Now submit your approach to fix it or move on.

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Anonymous wrote:And so what? It is fine to run a soccer program for kids that can pay but don't pretend that it is something that it is not.

You’re mad

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Anonymous wrote:Any poster that thinks the top youth leagues (except for the funded teams) are not exclusionary by cost is living in lala land. You simple do not find low income talent in these leagues with a few exceptions.

It’s pay to play. It’s not free. We get it. It cost between 8 - 10,000 a year. We understand.

Now submit your approach to fix it or move on.

Awwww. You don't like critics of youth soccer? Too bad. This is a soccer forum.

The gda screwed over a lot of players by saying one thing and doing another. They blabbed on about all the problems with ecnl that the gda would address and it was all a bunch of hog wash. We made it through but is was a pile of dog crap and too bad if they like people saying it. Everyone one would have been better if. If the gda had never come along.

And this is not an endorsement of ECNL but ecnl is and was what it is. Having the gda launch a copy cat ECNL, run it for a short while and then quickly quit was really a pile of garbage and a disappointing wasted opportunity that will never come again. We are all now stuck with ecnl.

go Run your pay to play league and enjoy. My players were fortunate enough to be able to be participate in high level soccer in spite of all the bull crap but I don't have to pretend there is not a lot of bull crap.

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Anonymous wrote:Any poster that thinks the top youth leagues (except for the funded teams) are not exclusionary by cost is living in lala land. You simple do not find low income talent in these leagues with a few exceptions.

It’s pay to play. It’s not free. We get it. It cost between 8 - 10,000 a year. We understand.

Now submit your approach to fix it or move on.

Awwww. You don't like critics of youth soccer? Too bad. This is a soccer forum.

The gda screwed over a lot of players by saying one thing and doing another. They blabbed on about all the problems with ecnl that the gda would address and it was all a bunch of hog wash. We made it through but is was a pile of dog crap and too bad if they like people saying it. Everyone one would have been better if. If the gda had never come along.

And this is not an endorsement of ECNL but ecnl is and was what it is. Having the gda launch a copy cat ECNL, run it for a short while and then quickly quit was really a pile of garbage and a disappointing wasted opportunity that will never come again. We are all now stuck with ecnl.

go Run your pay to play league and enjoy. My players were fortunate enough to be able to be participate in high level soccer in spite of all the bull crap but I don't have to pretend there is not a lot of bull crap.

What did GDA ever promise in regards to pay to play? I'll tell you, literally nothing.

DA wasn't fully funded, what the hell made you think GDA would be?

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Anonymous wrote:Any poster that thinks the top youth leagues (except for the funded teams) are not exclusionary by cost is living in lala land. You simple do not find low income talent in these leagues with a few exceptions.

It’s pay to play. It’s not free. We get it. It cost between 8 - 10,000 a year. We understand.

Now submit your approach to fix it or move on.

Awwww. You don't like critics of youth soccer? Too bad. This is a soccer forum.

The gda screwed over a lot of players by saying one thing and doing another. They blabbed on about all the problems with ecnl that the gda would address and it was all a bunch of hog wash. We made it through but is was a pile of dog crap and too bad if they like people saying it. Everyone one would have been better if. If the gda had never come along.

And this is not an endorsement of ECNL but ecnl is and was what it is. Having the gda launch a copy cat ECNL, run it for a short while and then quickly quit was really a pile of garbage and a disappointing wasted opportunity that will never come again. We are all now stuck with ecnl.

go Run your pay to play league and enjoy. My players were fortunate enough to be able to be participate in high level soccer in spite of all the bull crap but I don't have to pretend there is not a lot of bull crap.

Good - we agree - the launch of GDA was a pile of crap and travel soccer is not free. It will never be free because nothing is free. Someone will alway absorb the cost. Always.

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Anonymous wrote:Any poster that thinks the top youth leagues (except for the funded teams) are not exclusionary by cost is living in lala land. You simple do not find low income talent in these leagues with a few exceptions.

It’s pay to play. It’s not free. We get it. It cost between 8 - 10,000 a year. We understand.

Now submit your approach to fix it or move on.

Awwww. You don't like critics of youth soccer? Too bad. This is a soccer forum.

The gda screwed over a lot of players by saying one thing and doing another. They blabbed on about all the problems with ecnl that the gda would address and it was all a bunch of hog wash. We made it through but is was a pile of dog crap and too bad if they like people saying it. Everyone one would have been better if. If the gda had never come along.

And this is not an endorsement of ECNL but ecnl is and was what it is. Having the gda launch a copy cat ECNL, run it for a short while and then quickly quit was really a pile of garbage and a disappointing wasted opportunity that will never come again. We are all now stuck with ecnl.

go Run your pay to play league and enjoy. My players were fortunate enough to be able to be participate in high level soccer in spite of all the bull crap but I don't have to pretend there is not a lot of bull crap.

What did GDA ever promise in regards to pay to play? I'll tell you, literally nothing.

DA wasn't fully funded, what the hell made you think GDA would be?

The gda could do whatever it wanted and apparently what it wanted was to just serve up more of what we all already had. Waste of time.