ccrm lone tree

[Anonymous]

thinking about Cornell or CCRM Lone Tree.

have failed twice at SGF

we have one more insurance auth left, so CCRM NoVa would be in-network. out network maybe covers 80%.
i dont know if meds will be covered

it sounds like cornell is stressful? people like Lone tree. i dont know how often you have to go there

but were in DC, cornell is easier to get to

[Anonymous]

I did not look into CCRM Lone Tree, but I had an excellent experience at Cornell with Dr Davis. His office staff is top notch, and the RNs were great - always called on time and gave clear instructions. It is a very large practice, but due to COViD, monitoring was done by appointment windows, so I rarely had to wait more than a few minutes. I felt that my protocol was appropriately tailored to me. It was also easier to get to NYC from DC on short notice.

I only saw Dr Davis for one monitoring appointment and my retrievals and transfers were done by other doctors, but I expected that and liked the other doctors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:thinking about Cornell or CCRM Lone Tree.

have failed twice at SGF

we have one more insurance auth left, so CCRM NoVa would be in-network. out network maybe covers 80%.
i dont know if meds will be covered

it sounds like cornell is stressful? people like Lone tree. i dont know how often you have to go there

but were in DC, cornell is easier to get to

I literally am in the same boat as you, and was weighing Cornell vs CCRM Lone Tree as well. I did consults with both dr. davis and dr. surrey at CCRM (they're apparently friends!). They both have different approaches so it really depends what you think is best for you. I am opting for Cornell 1) closer and more convenient 2) because Dr. Davis seems to be to go-to for DOR and failed cycles elsewhere 3) I lived in NYC so I am comfortable in the city, and 4) they're cheaper.

That said, I acknowledge Dr. Davis worked for a lot of people on this board but it's no guarantee for me. We're weighing whether we would then do a last ditch effort at CCRM lone tree since I think my insurance will be maxed (and just pay OOP which would suck), that way we'd have no regrets. But they're so expensive ($25K, not including travel and meds)

Both allow outside monitoring in the beginning, but both then require you to go there for more frequent monitoring and retrieval (obviously). CCRM does require you to go out there for baseline/kickoff testing too which is a pain - to literally fly out there for a day just to give blood, do all the other tests, etc. And no, they don't let you do it in Tysons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thinking about Cornell or CCRM Lone Tree.

have failed twice at SGF

we have one more insurance auth left, so CCRM NoVa would be in-network. out network maybe covers 80%.
i dont know if meds will be covered

it sounds like cornell is stressful? people like Lone tree. i dont know how often you have to go there

but were in DC, cornell is easier to get to

I literally am in the same boat as you, and was weighing Cornell vs CCRM Lone Tree as well. I did consults with both dr. davis and dr. surrey at CCRM (they're apparently friends!). They both have different approaches so it really depends what you think is best for you. I am opting for Cornell 1) closer and more convenient 2) because Dr. Davis seems to be to go-to for DOR and failed cycles elsewhere 3) I lived in NYC so I am comfortable in the city, and 4) they're cheaper.

That said, I acknowledge Dr. Davis worked for a lot of people on this board but it's no guarantee for me. We're weighing whether we would then do a last ditch effort at CCRM lone tree since I think my insurance will be maxed (and just pay OOP which would suck), that way we'd have no regrets. But they're so expensive ($25K, not including travel and meds)

Both allow outside monitoring in the beginning, but both then require you to go there for more frequent monitoring and retrieval (obviously). CCRM does require you to go out there for baseline/kickoff testing too which is a pain - to literally fly out there for a day just to give blood, do all the other tests, etc. And no, they don't let you do it in Tysons.

Is it normally that I'm totally overwhelmed by CCRM Lone Tree. I had a failed cycle locally and want to go the best and get this over with. I thought CCRM was it, but I'm so overwhelmed by the mountain of paperwork, testing, and travel logistics. I guess they are more thorough, but it almost feels like too much. Anyone else feel this way?

[Anonymous]

now we are thinking about CCRM LT bc they might be in network for us. its still unclear

the poop is that we have family 20 minutes away but theyre all messed up now and they cant put us up.

denver is super far away and hotel at 150$ /night for 2 weeks = 2100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thinking about Cornell or CCRM Lone Tree.

have failed twice at SGF

we have one more insurance auth left, so CCRM NoVa would be in-network. out network maybe covers 80%.
i dont know if meds will be covered

it sounds like cornell is stressful? people like Lone tree. i dont know how often you have to go there

but were in DC, cornell is easier to get to

I literally am in the same boat as you, and was weighing Cornell vs CCRM Lone Tree as well. I did consults with both dr. davis and dr. surrey at CCRM (they're apparently friends!). They both have different approaches so it really depends what you think is best for you. I am opting for Cornell 1) closer and more convenient 2) because Dr. Davis seems to be to go-to for DOR and failed cycles elsewhere 3) I lived in NYC so I am comfortable in the city, and 4) they're cheaper.

That said, I acknowledge Dr. Davis worked for a lot of people on this board but it's no guarantee for me. We're weighing whether we would then do a last ditch effort at CCRM lone tree since I think my insurance will be maxed (and just pay OOP which would suck), that way we'd have no regrets. But they're so expensive ($25K, not including travel and meds)

Both allow outside monitoring in the beginning, but both then require you to go there for more frequent monitoring and retrieval (obviously). CCRM does require you to go out there for baseline/kickoff testing too which is a pain - to literally fly out there for a day just to give blood, do all the other tests, etc. And no, they don't let you do it in Tysons.

Is it normally that I'm totally overwhelmed by CCRM Lone Tree. I had a failed cycle locally and want to go the best and get this over with. I thought CCRM was it, but I'm so overwhelmed by the mountain of paperwork, testing, and travel logistics. I guess they are more thorough, but it almost feels like too much. Anyone else feel this way?

the paperwork was a lot, but I found Cornell's to be just as... "thorough."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:now we are thinking about CCRM LT bc they might be in network for us. its still unclear

the poop is that we have family 20 minutes away but theyre all messed up now and they cant put us up.

denver is super far away and hotel at 150$ /night for 2 weeks = 2100

picking this thread back up... did you ever go to CCRM lone tree? I was the poster who was weighing Cornell vs CCRM. Cornell turned out to be a complete bust for us, so now we're thinking CCRM lone tree as last resort, or going the donor route (I have DOR).

Also, if you did go to lone tree/denver you wouldn't need to stay there the full two weeks... I think you just need to go for the initial baseline appt, and then a couple days before retrieval - you can do the stim monitoring locally at their Nova location.

[Anonymous]

I used Ccrm lone tree before nova was an option. I found the process super overwhelming and had failed with two other local doctors, which is why we made the jump. The monitoring was done locally (not Ccrm) but difficult to navigate. I had to go out there twice - and stay for 2 weeks one time. And so much paperwork. BUT, they were the only dr who were able to produce embryos (which I miscarried).

That all being said, when nova opened up, i started seeing dr. Payson, who is AMAZING. He also says it’s not about the dr you see, it’s about the lab, and the lab procedures here vs . Lt are the same. He also thinks air quality of the lab is super important, and the air quality in the Tyson’s lab is better even than lt. I would just do it here and not bother with Colorado.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used Ccrm lone tree before nova was an option. I found the process super overwhelming and had failed with two other local doctors, which is why we made the jump. The monitoring was done locally (not Ccrm) but difficult to navigate. I had to go out there twice - and stay for 2 weeks one time. And so much paperwork. BUT, they were the only dr who were able to produce embryos (which I miscarried).

That all being said, when nova opened up, i started seeing dr. Payson, who is AMAZING. He also says it’s not about the dr you see, it’s about the lab, and the lab procedures here vs . Lt are the same. He also thinks air quality of the lab is super important, and the air quality in the Tyson’s lab is better even than lt. I would just do it here and not bother with Colorado.

Understand where you're coming from, but I'm hesitant to take their word for it - their SART data is way lower than Lone Trees:

Nova: https://www.sartcorsonline.com/rptCSR_PublicMultYear.aspx?ClinicPKID=2000064

Lone Tree: https://www.sartcorsonline.com/rptCSR_PublicMultYear.aspx?ClinicPKID=1902#patient-cumulative

Perhaps they're getting to lone tree's levels soon but it will take some time. And it could be because Lone Tree is more selective, however most of their patients seek them out after failures elsewhere.

I'm not trying to argue with what you said... as I'm thinking out loud, am thinking if we do pull the trigger it will be with Lone Tree (inconvenience and all) so we can be sure we're going with the best, for peace of mind.

Sigh.