Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.


Instead of being taught to be flexible and adaptation, children now get sheltered and coddled by parents who were also sheltered and coddled. And parents who have turned into people who get angry about a brand new beautiful school to move into in one of our state's best school systems (with its share of problems, too). The whole situation is messed up. They opened a new ES near me. "oh good, ours will be less crowded when the new one opens" It was less crowded, particularly since my family was sent to the new school! My kids did fine.


Another kids are resilient crap. This is the reason MCPS keeps failing because they just don’t care about the kids well-being.


This 100%. MCPS BOE members must have used the word resilient 100 times during the covid closures. I can just hear the word now coming from behind Monika's mask.


That has zero to do with school boundaries changing every so often, which is a challenging, yet perfectly normal thing people should be able to handle.


Yeah...sounds familiar!! So many said our kids should be able to handle the covid closures. And look what happened.


Covid closures: not expected, not normal
Boundary changes: expected, normal

See the difference?

+1 good gracious. Some of you parents are big snowflakes.


Not a parent. Just an observer who has friends who are parents. I would never send my kids to MCPS schools.

ok, good for you.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.


Instead of being taught to be flexible and adaptation, children now get sheltered and coddled by parents who were also sheltered and coddled. And parents who have turned into people who get angry about a brand new beautiful school to move into in one of our state's best school systems (with its share of problems, too). The whole situation is messed up. They opened a new ES near me. "oh good, ours will be less crowded when the new one opens" It was less crowded, particularly since my family was sent to the new school! My kids did fine.


Another kids are resilient crap. This is the reason MCPS keeps failing because they just don’t care about the kids well-being.


This 100%. MCPS BOE members must have used the word resilient 100 times during the covid closures. I can just hear the word now coming from behind Monika's mask.

Please, I'm a parent in the RM cluster. My one DC has some anxiety and depression issues and is a very sensitive kid, but I don't try to coddle them. I try to teach them to be, yes, resilient. Because that is what it takes in this world to live.

You are not doing your kids any favors by trying to coddle them.

You can advocate for your kids, but thinking that having them and the entire neighborhood move to a different cluster is going to be traumatic is just pathetic. IMO, you are probably more coddled than your kids are.


How do you know what I do with my kids? I was pointing out that MCPS did kids wrong by keeping schools closed longer than needed...longer that most of the country. It is the biggest reason kids are so far behind academically. And kids were depressed and lost. You may have kids who are resilient, but that isn't the case for all. My kids didn't have to deal with that crap because I pulled them out and put them in a private school that was in person for the 2020-21 entire school year.

but this thread is not about covid. You are comparing boundary changes to covid closure. GMAFB.


I am just using an example of one of MCPS's failures where they claimed students would be able to thrive during closures because they are so reslilient. They didn't and they weren't.

But lots of kids have moved schools with other kids in MCPS, and they are fine. This is not the first time MCPS is redrawing boundaries and having kids move to a new MS/HS.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.


Instead of being taught to be flexible and adaptation, children now get sheltered and coddled by parents who were also sheltered and coddled. And parents who have turned into people who get angry about a brand new beautiful school to move into in one of our state's best school systems (with its share of problems, too). The whole situation is messed up. They opened a new ES near me. "oh good, ours will be less crowded when the new one opens" It was less crowded, particularly since my family was sent to the new school! My kids did fine.


Another kids are resilient crap. This is the reason MCPS keeps failing because they just don’t care about the kids well-being.


This 100%. MCPS BOE members must have used the word resilient 100 times during the covid closures. I can just hear the word now coming from behind Monika's mask.

Please, I'm a parent in the RM cluster. My one DC has some anxiety and depression issues and is a very sensitive kid, but I don't try to coddle them. I try to teach them to be, yes, resilient. Because that is what it takes in this world to live.

You are not doing your kids any favors by trying to coddle them.

You can advocate for your kids, but thinking that having them and the entire neighborhood move to a different cluster is going to be traumatic is just pathetic. IMO, you are probably more coddled than your kids are.


Please, it’s not the moving the cluster, it’s moving them in the middle of middle school and the middle of high school. There are better ways to do it and the more you use the word resilient the more we will bring up COVID.

They will still adjust. Hundreds of kids before them have done it. They will be fine if you let them be fine.


Not all can. Especially when only 5-10 kids per grade from a school gets split out. They’re not split out with hundreds of kids. They’re singled out.

They will. They aren't the only ones who had to move, even if it's 5 to 10 kids per grade.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


Did it put anyone underwater? The thought of this is making me sick.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.


Instead of being taught to be flexible and adaptation, children now get sheltered and coddled by parents who were also sheltered and coddled. And parents who have turned into people who get angry about a brand new beautiful school to move into in one of our state's best school systems (with its share of problems, too). The whole situation is messed up. They opened a new ES near me. "oh good, ours will be less crowded when the new one opens" It was less crowded, particularly since my family was sent to the new school! My kids did fine.


Another kids are resilient crap. This is the reason MCPS keeps failing because they just don’t care about the kids well-being.


This 100%. MCPS BOE members must have used the word resilient 100 times during the covid closures. I can just hear the word now coming from behind Monika's mask.

Please, I'm a parent in the RM cluster. My one DC has some anxiety and depression issues and is a very sensitive kid, but I don't try to coddle them. I try to teach them to be, yes, resilient. Because that is what it takes in this world to live.

You are not doing your kids any favors by trying to coddle them.

You can advocate for your kids, but thinking that having them and the entire neighborhood move to a different cluster is going to be traumatic is just pathetic. IMO, you are probably more coddled than your kids are.


Please, it’s not the moving the cluster, it’s moving them in the middle of middle school and the middle of high school. There are better ways to do it and the more you use the word resilient the more we will bring up COVID.

They will still adjust. Hundreds of kids before them have done it. They will be fine if you let them be fine.


Not all can. Especially when only 5-10 kids per grade from a school gets split out. They’re not split out with hundreds of kids. They’re singled out.


Agreed and it’s not just parents saying it. It’s middle and high school teachers against it. Are they snowflakes too?

You can keep saying everyone will be fine but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t put extra care and thought into how we do this.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.


Instead of being taught to be flexible and adaptation, children now get sheltered and coddled by parents who were also sheltered and coddled. And parents who have turned into people who get angry about a brand new beautiful school to move into in one of our state's best school systems (with its share of problems, too). The whole situation is messed up. They opened a new ES near me. "oh good, ours will be less crowded when the new one opens" It was less crowded, particularly since my family was sent to the new school! My kids did fine.


Another kids are resilient crap. This is the reason MCPS keeps failing because they just don’t care about the kids well-being.


This 100%. MCPS BOE members must have used the word resilient 100 times during the covid closures. I can just hear the word now coming from behind Monika's mask.

Please, I'm a parent in the RM cluster. My one DC has some anxiety and depression issues and is a very sensitive kid, but I don't try to coddle them. I try to teach them to be, yes, resilient. Because that is what it takes in this world to live.

You are not doing your kids any favors by trying to coddle them.

You can advocate for your kids, but thinking that having them and the entire neighborhood move to a different cluster is going to be traumatic is just pathetic. IMO, you are probably more coddled than your kids are.


Please, it’s not the moving the cluster, it’s moving them in the middle of middle school and the middle of high school. There are better ways to do it and the more you use the word resilient the more we will bring up COVID.

They will still adjust. Hundreds of kids before them have done it. They will be fine if you let them be fine.


Not all can. Especially when only 5-10 kids per grade from a school gets split out. They’re not split out with hundreds of kids. They’re singled out.

They will. They aren't the only ones who had to move, even if it's 5 to 10 kids per grade.


Easy for you say, troll
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.


And it wasn’t just the drop in property value. It was that they could no longer walk to their middle or high school and had to be bused to a school that wasn’t even good at the time.

And the other two neighborhoods that surround them (Fox Hills West and Fallsmead) all still go to Wootton. So there was a break in community as well.

Losing $100-200k in equity in a home is insane. I can understand all of the resentment to bus middle class kids away from their community to decrease FARM numbers in a failing school. You all would be pissed too.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.

Oh please. I live in this neighborhood. Most of the old timers who complained about it bought when the houses were < $75K. Several of these neighbors have since sold their homes in the past 10 years, all over $800K. The last several here sold for over $1mil. Don't feel sorry for them.

And some of their adult kids live in the RM cluster and send their kids there. Good grief. Bunch of snowflakes.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.


Instead of being taught to be flexible and adaptation, children now get sheltered and coddled by parents who were also sheltered and coddled. And parents who have turned into people who get angry about a brand new beautiful school to move into in one of our state's best school systems (with its share of problems, too). The whole situation is messed up. They opened a new ES near me. "oh good, ours will be less crowded when the new one opens" It was less crowded, particularly since my family was sent to the new school! My kids did fine.


Another kids are resilient crap. This is the reason MCPS keeps failing because they just don’t care about the kids well-being.


This 100%. MCPS BOE members must have used the word resilient 100 times during the covid closures. I can just hear the word now coming from behind Monika's mask.

Please, I'm a parent in the RM cluster. My one DC has some anxiety and depression issues and is a very sensitive kid, but I don't try to coddle them. I try to teach them to be, yes, resilient. Because that is what it takes in this world to live.

You are not doing your kids any favors by trying to coddle them.

You can advocate for your kids, but thinking that having them and the entire neighborhood move to a different cluster is going to be traumatic is just pathetic. IMO, you are probably more coddled than your kids are.


Please, it’s not the moving the cluster, it’s moving them in the middle of middle school and the middle of high school. There are better ways to do it and the more you use the word resilient the more we will bring up COVID.

They will still adjust. Hundreds of kids before them have done it. They will be fine if you let them be fine.


Not all can. Especially when only 5-10 kids per grade from a school gets split out. They’re not split out with hundreds of kids. They’re singled out.

They will. They aren't the only ones who had to move, even if it's 5 to 10 kids per grade.


Easy for you say, troll

? Why do you think I'm a troll. I live in one of these clusters.

Get over it. Your kids probably have more resilience than you do.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.

Oh please. I live in this neighborhood. Most of the old timers who complained about it bought when the houses were < $75K. Several of these neighbors have since sold their homes in the past 10 years, all over $800K. The last several here sold for over $1mil. Don't feel sorry for them.

And some of their adult kids live in the RM cluster and send their kids there. Good grief. Bunch of snowflakes.


NP. What is it with the snowflake comments? You think people here are over reacting, but your reaction to that is severely over the top. That said, losing home value depending on your situation can be devastating. Don't underestimate the repercussions. Perhaps you don't understand because you don't have any significant investments. I am someone in the Wayside cluster solely concerned about home value. My kids are grown and we are living on retirement income and putting our home on the market soon to downsize. Feeling relieved about the Wootton assignment. As long as we stay in a good school, my home will maintain its current value. Losing $200K in value (especially if you are planning to sell soon) really sucks.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


50-100K was huge amount in 80s. I guess prices went down by 25-30%.
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Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.


I care more about the property value than anything. A 200k hit to my home value is likely (Wootton - Crown) and will be devastating. I should be allowed to complain about it and the BOE should have to consider it. I'm not rich enough to act like it doesnt matter.
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Anonymous wrote:I was commenting on Woodward thread. Many parents have genuine problem with some options.

In this thread, Wayside parents should be happy that there is no nuclear option like option 3 in Woodward where you get shipped to Gaithersburg HS to balance FARMS.

Wayside going from Churchill to Wootton should be a non-event for most families. Not sure why so much noise. Wootton is equally good school.



The neighborhoods moving from Wootton to Crown seems like the the biggest losers in the Crown options.


Yes, it’s a big loss for many people, not just on property value but also having to leave friends and attend a brand new half done school without auditorium. Many uncertainties especially for the 9th graders who have to leave on whether the new school offer the same rigorous courses, club/sports activities, etc

Hundreds of kids have had to move schools due to boundary changes. Your kids will be alright. Sheesh.


Where? You lack basic empathy for affected kids.

Where? Have you been living under a rock? MCPS has had a few boundaries redrawn in the past 10 years.

My kids moved schools, including across the country. They are fine. Yes, it will be hard at first, but they will adjust. It's not like they are moving all alone. Your entire neighborhood will move. Sheesh. I hope you teach your kids more resilience.

MCPS has very limited redistricting but even those changes have left lasting impacts. In Clarksburg, families rezoned out of their expected schools are still deeply upset. Even the residents from the Ritchie Park, who were reassigned to RM decades ago, still express long-standing resentment now. Many continue to speak about the emotional toll and lasting mental harm they experienced from these redistricting decisions. These concerns should not be taken lightly.

well, they need to get over it. And it wasn't about the kids; it was about their home values. Of course, moving schools is not easy, but the kids will get over it if you let them. Your attitude impacts them more than anything else. Teach your kids to be resilient.

-HH resident with old time neighbors who still do talk about it. BTW, some of those kids who are now adults live in the RM cluster, and send their kids there.


Their property values dropped as a result of redistricting?


Oh, yeah. I believe it was $50-100k and there was a big fight but in the end MCPS did what they wanted anyway. And yes, it was quite a few years ago. I think in the mid-80s.


Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.

Oh please. I live in this neighborhood. Most of the old timers who complained about it bought when the houses were < $75K. Several of these neighbors have since sold their homes in the past 10 years, all over $800K. The last several here sold for over $1mil. Don't feel sorry for them.

And some of their adult kids live in the RM cluster and send their kids there. Good grief. Bunch of snowflakes.


We’re not talking about the same community then. My neighborhood never had house price below 300k to begin with in 1980s
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Yeah now it’s about $200k drop but it’s forbidden to complain about it. And kids are resilient and just move to a half done brand new school under construction with another 5 kids from the same school.


I care more about the property value than anything. A 200k hit to my home value is likely (Wootton - Crown) and will be devastating. I should be allowed to complain about it and the BOE should have to consider it. I'm not rich enough to act like it doesnt matter.

haha. The BOE is not concerned about your property values. Their job is to look at what's best for the entire school district.
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