Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

I see this too. Kids just don’t come to school or if they do, they roll in hours late. I have a group of 3-4 students who kids phonics nearly every day. That’s what happens when you come in two hours late.

I teach secondary but I am blown away by this too. Kids stroll in 30-60 minutes late to my 1st period class with starbucks or chick fil a cups in hand. Some of them drive themselves but some of them are sophomores and freshmen so parents are taking them to get food and come late! Once or twice, okay, but it's nearly daily for some kids.

Surprise...you're failing math.

I have pre-k and kindergarten students rolling in an hour or more late with their McDonald’s sodas and Starbucks drinks. Title 1 school. There isn’t even a Starbucks near school. They can tell me the names of the letters but they’ve got their morning caffeine fix.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Which grade?

What subject?

Were the online assignments because she was differentiating for students but didn't want to draw attention to the fact that each student had leveled work, so it was beneficial to students' privacy and dignity to do everything on Schoology so it wasn't obvious who had which level of work?

Did she actually REFUSE to allow paper handoutss, or did she limit paper handouts because the students litter them all over the classroom rather than taking them home?

I don’t want to give too many details, but this was upper elementary. No, this wasn’t anything to do with differentiation. In fact, the principal had to get involved and instruct her to switch to paper once he realized how inappropriate it all was. Initially, she claimed this was for the good of the environment and then later said there was a paper shortage. Once the principal got involved, magically there was no shortage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Which grade?

What subject?

Were the online assignments because she was differentiating for students but didn't want to draw attention to the fact that each student had leveled work, so it was beneficial to students' privacy and dignity to do everything on Schoology so it wasn't obvious who had which level of work?

Did she actually REFUSE to allow paper handoutss, or did she limit paper handouts because the students litter them all over the classroom rather than taking them home?

I don’t want to give too many details, but this was upper elementary. No, this wasn’t anything to do with differentiation. In fact, the principal had to get involved and instruct her to switch to paper once he realized how inappropriate it all was. Initially, she claimed this was for the good of the environment and then later said there was a paper shortage. Once the principal got involved, magically there was no shortage.

Fyi, we found out her real reasons had to do with “not wanting to go to the copy machine.” It was easier for her, but not best for students. She also said that’s how middle school would be. I can tell you now that my child is in middle school, it’s absolutely not that way and I’m thrilled. My child has more paper assignments than ever, including in math. Math is all on paper, including quizzes and tests. It’s so refreshing. Science is mostly paper based, with the exception of quizzes and reviewing slide shows. But all the work kids are doing is paper based. English skews more to computer work, because they type. But they absolutely have had paper books. And have done grammar notes and quizzes on paper. And history has been a nice mix of handouts and online work. I am very pleased!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

I see this too. Kids just don’t come to school or if they do, they roll in hours late. I have a group of 3-4 students who kids phonics nearly every day. That’s what happens when you come in two hours late.

I teach secondary but I am blown away by this too. Kids stroll in 30-60 minutes late to my 1st period class with starbucks or chick fil a cups in hand. Some of them drive themselves but some of them are sophomores and freshmen so parents are taking them to get food and come late! Once or twice, okay, but it's nearly daily for some kids.

Surprise...you're failing math.

I have pre-k and kindergarten students rolling in an hour or more late with their McDonald’s sodas and Starbucks drinks. Title 1 school. There isn’t even a Starbucks near school. They can tell me the names of the letters but they’ve got their morning caffeine fix.

Lazy, indulgent parents. Shame on them.

[Anonymous]

The quality of the fictions churned out by the troll farm have really gone downhill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't youtube be accessed for certain teachers with a password or something for the few times they have to watch something there? I hate that youtube and social media are allowed on these school computers.

Forget about the laptops. For every student on a laptop, we have ten on their phones.

our school makes those be put away. They are not allowed to have them in class.

+1

At our school, there are no phones in class. It seems that this may vary by school, some schools are supportive of teachers who ask the phones be put away and other schools aren't. As a parent, if I knew that my DC's school allowed phones in class, I would complain to the principal, AP, to the superintendent, school board, everyone. Phones are away for the day. For good reason.

I teach a lower ES grade and smart watches are starting to become a problem.

Yup several kindergartners with them playing games

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The quality of the fictions churned out by the troll farm have really gone downhill.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Which grade?

What subject?

Were the online assignments because she was differentiating for students but didn't want to draw attention to the fact that each student had leveled work, so it was beneficial to students' privacy and dignity to do everything on Schoology so it wasn't obvious who had which level of work?

Did she actually REFUSE to allow paper handoutss, or did she limit paper handouts because the students litter them all over the classroom rather than taking them home?

I don’t want to give too many details, but this was upper elementary. No, this wasn’t anything to do with differentiation. In fact, the principal had to get involved and instruct her to switch to paper once he realized how inappropriate it all was. Initially, she claimed this was for the good of the environment and then later said there was a paper shortage. Once the principal got involved, magically there was no shortage.

Fyi, we found out her real reasons had to do with “not wanting to go to the copy machine.” It was easier for her, but not best for students. She also said that’s how middle school would be. I can tell you now that my child is in middle school, it’s absolutely not that way and I’m thrilled. My child has more paper assignments than ever, including in math. Math is all on paper, including quizzes and tests. It’s so refreshing. Science is mostly paper based, with the exception of quizzes and reviewing slide shows. But all the work kids are doing is paper based. English skews more to computer work, because they type. But they absolutely have had paper books. And have done grammar notes and quizzes on paper. And history has been a nice mix of handouts and online work. I am very pleased!

+1

Middle school has been great after the last year in elementary school post-pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Don't be shocked when these "lazy" teachers resign.

One of those “lazy” teachers just put in 2 weeks and won’t return after spring break; they got a job doing corporate training for a major company that’s offering an immediate 30% pay increase, WFH 2-3 days per weeks, much better healthcare. I guess that company didn’t check with DCUM to before hiring though- clearly the keyboard warriors here know something they don’t!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Don't be shocked when these "lazy" teachers resign.

One of those “lazy” teachers just put in 2 weeks and won’t return after spring break; they got a job doing corporate training for a major company that’s offering an immediate 30% pay increase, WFH 2-3 days per weeks, much better healthcare. I guess that company didn’t check with DCUM to before hiring though- clearly the keyboard warriors here know something they don’t!

Basically lower $/hour since they won't get all the time off, and they lose their pension.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Don't be shocked when these "lazy" teachers resign.

One of those “lazy” teachers just put in 2 weeks and won’t return after spring break; they got a job doing corporate training for a major company that’s offering an immediate 30% pay increase, WFH 2-3 days per weeks, much better healthcare. I guess that company didn’t check with DCUM to before hiring though- clearly the keyboard warriors here know something they don’t!

Basically lower $/hour since they won't get all the time off, and they lose their pension.

Not if they are vested. I’m in year 11 and I’m vested in MD.

[Anonymous]

Young single teachers aren't thinking about their pensions. Older married teachers usually have a spouse who earns more and the pension isn't that critical for them--all the mid-career teachers I know who are leaving could care less about letting their pension go because they know they can't stick with this until year 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Young single teachers aren't thinking about their pensions. Older married teachers usually have a spouse who earns more and the pension isn't that critical for them--all the mid-career teachers I know who are leaving could care less about letting their pension go because they know they can't stick with this until year 30.

Year 30 might even be a low number of years. I started in ‘93 and need to get to 33 years for full, unreduced pension benefits with the county’s pension. I am under the “rule of 80” for the state, but younger teachers have to get to 90 (combined age and years of service).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the teachers use collective bargaining to get disruptive kids out of the classroom???

They'll just be able to get themselves out of the classroom in some cases in which students have threatened or assaulted them, if they can get a protective order.

The struggling kids will stay right there in the mainstream setting, disrupting the classes of dozens of kids who are ready to learn.

People with means will put their kids in private schools, which can more easily expel kids and more easily fire teachers who don't toe the line.

This is what the 0.1% wants. And they're getting it.

I taught at a private school once and part of what the “private can kick anyone out” convo misses is that even though they can, they usually don’t. Because a) that’s losing tuition and b) the parents have money to sue. So kids with shitty behavior stick around privates too.

Also, if there’s a dispute between students, a private school will often side with the student whose family is more lucrative to the school, rather than the student who was in the right. What that means to all y’all reading this message board and threatening to take your kids to private school is that if this situation happens, your kid is the less lucrative party.

Liar. No private is hurting for applicants these days.

You cannot be this dense. It’s not about tuition. It’s about DONATIONS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the pandemic virtual consequences isn’t so much the screens but the laziness. Kids got used to being at home, being in PJs, laying in the couch and having Monday “off.” Even now many kids aren’t fully back in the routine of school and work.

Nope. Nice try.

I just meant it’s not all screens. But they also were on other screens a lot more and got more addicted.

Because schools were closed.

Pandemic virtual consequences are actually that some teachers became even lazier. They now simply pop up some slides for the kids to do and don’t actually teach. If you can believe it, we had a teacher last year that refused to give any hard copies of handouts/readings to the class. Every single thing was online. She made the kids go on Schoology to do every single thing, even when it wasn’t appropriate to be in that format.

Cool. Enjoy homeschooling!