Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

[Anonymous]

There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

[Anonymous]

I haven't seen the numbers but would assume there's still a massive disproportionality in the race and class of students who benefit from legacy status. Just because they didn't do it when they should have 25+ years ago, doesn't mean they still shouldn't now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

They should definitely do it. As it stands now, the only legacies who get preference are major donor families. So get rid of all monetary/developmental/celeb preferences in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

They should definitely do it. As it stands now, the only legacies who get preference are major donor families. So get rid of all monetary/developmental/celeb preferences in admissions.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

They should definitely do it. As it stands now, the only legacies who get preference are major donor families. So get rid of all monetary/developmental/celeb preferences in admissions.

That’s not true at all. Most schools give a legacy preference to any student whose parent attended the school, regardless of whether the parent ever donated. Development/major donor families are in a different, more favored box.

[Anonymous]

Why wouldn’t it be Constitutional?

—lawyer

[Anonymous]

I hope so. Long overdue. Legacy just breeds mediocrity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen the numbers but would assume there's still a massive disproportionality in the race and class of students who benefit from legacy status. Just because they didn't do it when they should have 25+ years ago, doesn't mean they still shouldn't now.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

My bet is there are enough graduates in congress and the Senate of schools with legacy preference on both sides of the aisle that will vote against. Don't get too excited.

[Anonymous]

Who is going to pay top $$ for “connection” when there are none.

[Anonymous]

While I’m not a fan of legacy preferences, I don’t think it’s appropriate for the federal government to get involved in college admissions at this level. And it is most certainly inappropriate to say it’s ok for HBCUs to give a preference, since it’s to minorities, but its not ok for other institutions to do so. Either a preference for legacies is ok or it’s not. I applied to Howard for a job and got an automatic rejection within seconds because I checked “white” for my race. How is that ok? If Harvard automatically rejected a black person who checked “black” that would be a lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I’m not a fan of legacy preferences, I don’t think it’s appropriate for the federal government to get involved in college admissions at this level. And it is most certainly inappropriate to say it’s ok for HBCUs to give a preference, since it’s to minorities, but its not ok for other institutions to do so. Either a preference for legacies is ok or it’s not. I applied to Howard for a job and got an automatic rejection within seconds because I checked “white” for my race. How is that ok? If Harvard automatically rejected a black person who checked “black” that would be a lawsuit.

Stop lying. One, you don't know why you were rejected but it's actually clear to me. Two, I went to Howard and had several white professors and there are other white staff there. Nice try troll.

[Anonymous]

No they should not do this. First your premise is wrong. There is no evidence this would increase admits of POC. There is every reason to believe that it would be exactly the same distribution. Remember at most schools legacy only helps if you in the range of students that would otherwise be admitted. No reason to think that some of them would be admitted anyway if you eliminated legacy and people that look just like them will fill the slots. I really don't see anyone lifting increasing POC representation if legacy went away

Second I am reluctant to the government getting too deep into who can and cannot go to a certain college.

Third, why do not think the top schools with billions will just not accept those funds? That would put people in a worse position not better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I’m not a fan of legacy preferences, I don’t think it’s appropriate for the federal government to get involved in college admissions at this level. And it is most certainly inappropriate to say it’s ok for HBCUs to give a preference, since it’s to minorities, but its not ok for other institutions to do so. Either a preference for legacies is ok or it’s not. I applied to Howard for a job and got an automatic rejection within seconds because I checked “white” for my race. How is that ok? If Harvard automatically rejected a black person who checked “black” that would be a lawsuit.

Stop lying. One, you don't know why you were rejected but it's actually clear to me. Two, I went to Howard and had several white professors and there are other white staff there. Nice try troll.

Yes that post is silly.

But --- if the federal government can mandate dropping legacy you are not that far away in another administration for the ban on Women only colleges and a requirement that the HBUC widen their profile so that the class makeup reflects America: 45% White; 30% Latino; 15% black; and 10% Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope so. Long overdue. Legacy just breeds mediocrity.

+1000