Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

Looks like you are one of them. But the majority of POCs will not be benefited from legacy preferences.

I also am 'one of them'. That's not the point. Point is that something that once seemed reasonable, and had value, suddenly doesn't because there's a significant amount of POC who benefit.

First, there are not "a significant amount of POC who benefit". Second, it is an unfair practice and the majority of POCs do not benefit from it. Third, if you are a POC and a graduate from HPY, you are already privileged, so you should give your fellow POCs more opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a private institution? Is that possible?

Yes. If the privates do not want it, they can refuse federal funding.

[Anonymous]

Is there enough support for this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a private institution? Is that possible?

Yes. If the privates do not want it, they can refuse federal funding.

There are also constitutional limits on federal imposition of conditions under its spending power. This bill could be held to exceed those limits to the extent it violates universities' First Amendment rights to freely associate in a manner that doesn't violate the civil rights laws.

[Anonymous]

For Feds, apparently there’s something called legacy hires. And once hired, of course, legacy promotions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For Feds, apparently there’s something called legacy hires. And once hired, of course, legacy promotions.

This isn’t true. There are anti-nepotism laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For Feds, apparently there’s something called legacy hires. And once hired, of course, legacy promotions.

Are you a Qanon member? Do you like spreading conspiracies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a private institution? Is that possible?

Yes. If the privates do not want it, they can refuse federal funding.

There are also constitutional limits on federal imposition of conditions under its spending power. This bill could be held to exceed those limits to the extent it violates universities' First Amendment rights to freely associate in a manner that doesn't violate the civil rights laws.

Would you say the same for affirmative action?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t it be Constitutional?

—lawyer

Because the Dems are trying to control the actions of private institutions by limiting federal funds. Oh wait! They try to do that all the time!

[Anonymous]

And if colleges start really liking essays about wanting to go to school where a parent went, I assume the feds can shut that down as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

They should remove all forms of affirmative action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And if colleges start really liking essays about wanting to go to school where a parent went, I assume the feds can shut that down as well?

True. The “why x school” is a popular supplemental.

[Anonymous]

DCUM legacy eligible parents don’t need to worry about this proposal. In fact they should cheerlead it into becoming a law. Why? Because, whenever the topic of legacy preferences giving a leg up comes up on this forum, such parents say their children are well qualified to get into the schools without the legacy status. However, they and their children never give up claiming legacy status in the application! This Bill will help them shed that unnecessary designation finally. Better required, if not voluntary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t it be Constitutional?

—lawyer

Because the Dems are trying to control the actions of private institutions by limiting federal funds. Oh wait! They try to do that all the time!

Good for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.

Because it is unfair and has always been unfair and has nothing to do with POC. It hurts everyone.