South Asian male applicants

[Anonymous]

Any south Asian male student parents on? Or do any of you have any ideas of how the admission season is panning out for them? It is very tough in our school---south Asian boys even with very high stats and scores and good ECs did not get into ED. Worried parent of a South Asian male junior. Please no politics.

[Anonymous]

I think the South Asian male has to work very hard to stand out. Try to step back and ask yourself what is unique about your son?

[Anonymous]

There are just too many of them with identical stats. you have to stand out. Your son's number one competition is other south Asian boys. Figure out how to make him different than the pack.

[Anonymous]

This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are just too many of them with identical stats. you have to stand out. Your son's number one competition is other south Asian boys. Figure out how to make him different than the pack.

I think it is better for you to think about this slightly differently-- have him think through what makes him different. Parents trying to make a kid stand out are usually less effective--and seem more 'manufactured' than supporting him to see what is unique about himself and how he might want to follow that. If he figures this out, he'll have insight into the path(s) he's most interested in and it will be more authentic. I know this doesn't help you in the application season right now, but it might-- He might end up choosing to add some late application schools that are off the beaten path to the mix or realize that one of his "safeties" is a better fit. And figuring out your goals in life and how to meet them is so much more than one application season--if he gains some self-awareness about how he is unique he might be more competitive and he might be more motivated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Unless their next-door neighbor is first gen or URM, that probably isn't true. You said less accomplishment, so eliminate athletes. An unhooked white male has the same chance of getting in as an unhooked South Asian male- virtually zero. White numbers look better because of hooked students, but the unhooked ones have the same impossible odds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Unless their next-door neighbor is first gen or URM, that probably isn't true. You said less accomplishment, so eliminate athletes. An unhooked white male has the same chance of getting in as an unhooked South Asian male- virtually zero. White numbers look better because of hooked students, but the unhooked ones have the same impossible odds.

And unless they are going into Engineering, females often have rougher odds overall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Unless their next-door neighbor is first gen or URM, that probably isn't true. You said less accomplishment, so eliminate athletes. An unhooked white male has the same chance of getting in as an unhooked South Asian male- virtually zero. White numbers look better because of hooked students, but the unhooked ones have the same impossible odds.

you want to cry over unhooked white applicants - look to athletes, legacies and donors. All white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Unless their next-door neighbor is first gen or URM, that probably isn't true. You said less accomplishment, so eliminate athletes. An unhooked white male has the same chance of getting in as an unhooked South Asian male- virtually zero. White numbers look better because of hooked students, but the unhooked ones have the same impossible odds.

you want to cry over unhooked white applicants - look to athletes, legacies and donors. All white.

The fact that most of these students are white shows that unhooked white applicants also may have had opportunities that Asian students do not.

Asian-raced American face all kinds of discrimination and adversity... and that's fine? No additional considerations for you?

Also, where I live there are very few white students so the chances of my neighbor being an URM is high. So yeah. Brownie for you; not for you.

[Anonymous]

In our school district, South Asian males tend to do really well ….although, admittedly, they’re usually not getting into their top choices. That’s just so hard and nearly impossible for everyone. Search for schools that will really want your son! And don’t be overly focus on “the top” schools. Good luck to your son. I really believe that those smart, hard working kids are likely to flourish throughout their careers, and flagship universities offer many great opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Um, I think the point of the website is that "OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school." I was trying to help OP get to that realization.

Oh, and jumping to assumptions about discrimination is unwarranted, especially when you have no idea what each of the students involved is bringing to the table. I'm genuinely sorry if you've faced discrimination in any way, but it's very unlikely that it will happen in college admissions in the US. In general, the more selective the university, the more diverse its student body is. They WANT a variety of viewpoints in their classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any south Asian male student parents on? Or do any of you have any ideas of how the admission season is panning out for them? It is very tough in our school---south Asian boys even with very high stats and scores and good ECs did not get into ED. Worried parent of a South Asian male junior. Please no politics.

Do you understand that nearly all admissions decisions tend to be a lot more nuanced than just stats and test scores?

Do you also understand that a LOT of kids with very high stats and scores of all races and genders are having trouble gaining admission to their top choices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Um, I think the point of the website is that "OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school." I was trying to help OP get to that realization.

Oh, and jumping to assumptions about discrimination is unwarranted, especially when you have no idea what each of the students involved is bringing to the table. I'm genuinely sorry if you've faced discrimination in any way, but it's very unlikely that it will happen in college admissions in the US. In general, the more selective the university, the more diverse its student body is. They WANT a variety of viewpoints in their classrooms.

I don't think that is true. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for what you said about me facing discrimination. I believe you are sincere and I appreciate it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This website has much data to show why you need not worry...

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/

Less selective universities are very capable of providing an excellent education.

Give me a break. OP wants to know how it is possible to get in the very selective universities. This "don't stress" narrative is absurd to feed to someone, when their kid has virtually no chance to get into a school, but their next door neighbor does, even with less accomplishment. "Don't stress" is some BS gaslighting in the face of discrimination.

OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school. She's not worried that he's going to be digging ditches. That is not the point. And she doesn't have to have the same criteria as you. If this worries her, it worries her. That's valid.

Um, I think the point of the website is that "OP's son will do well because that's who he is, regardless of where he goes to school." I was trying to help OP get to that realization.

Oh, and jumping to assumptions about discrimination is unwarranted, especially when you have no idea what each of the students involved is bringing to the table. I'm genuinely sorry if you've faced discrimination in any way, but it's very unlikely that it will happen in college admissions in the US. In general, the more selective the university, the more diverse its student body is. They WANT a variety of viewpoints in their classrooms.

I don't think that is true. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for what you said about me facing discrimination. I believe you are sincere and I appreciate it.

Definitely sincere. Even if we disagree about its prevalence in admissions, there is no doubt about its continued abundance in society in general. We are making progress, though, and if there's anything positive to be gained from our previous White House resident, it's that he made painfully obvious how far we still have to go.