Gaza War, Part 3

Anonymous
We even had some poster here that was true blue certain that her 15 year old daughter would definitely be raped by Hamas.

It’s like they want to fit the bias or stereotype they have in their head
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:tensions , settler incursions -leading the Gaza border crossing empty of IDF during a Saturday morning and Jewish holiday in Israel. The IDF were in the West Bank on 10/7 trying to protect settlers on a religious pilgrimage to some tomb in Palestinian territory. During Muslim religious holiday last Ramadan, Ben Gvir did a raid at the Al Aqsa mosque that Hamas claims was the reason for 10/7 which they call the Al Aqsa Flood Operation.


They call it whatever they want. The reason for the attack is that Iran didn't want Saudi Arabia and other countries to normalize relations with Israel.


That’s not the reason at all. Do you think Hamas gives a damn about Iran or works for Iran? They don’t even speak the same language . Hamas knows English and Hebrew more than they know Farsi.

They absolutely did this because of the West Bank and the settlements are the reason . They specifically mention Ben Gvir and his death to Arabs parade he led last spring


Hamas is allied with Hezbollah, which is a militant puppet of Iran.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Like beheading the Israelis since they hate Israel so much but that hasn’t happened because they want to return them alive in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. Israel keeps saying no to releasing more Palestinian prisoners (most of whom are never charged and are beaten, waterboarded, abused with far more than wired up arms ) so Hamas is saying no to releasing Israelis


Uhhh dude. There were plenty of Israelis who were butchered by Hamas on 10/7 rather than being held as hostages.

Stop making up talking points that don't hold water in the face of reality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew, and the Israelis make me ashamed to be a Jew”
-Israel Shahak, Holocaust survivor


Wow.

Yes, this expresses how I feel.
Anonymous
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JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel ramped up its criticism of the embattled U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees Monday, saying 450 of its employees were members of militant groups in the Gaza Strip, though it provided no evidence to back up its accusation.


https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-03-04-2024-a93b77e949d3bdc459311fd84d0f90ba




Just more evidence the UN needs to be disbanded following the end of the war.

We cannot have a terrorist organization pretending to speak for the world. Especially one actively supporting an active genocide against Jews.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


Are you able to explain the UN Report, an investigation undertaken by a woman who oversees sexual violence in conflicts on behalf of the UN Sec Gen?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


The UN states that rape allegations are credible but I doubt you would believe them unless you personally witnessed it. Who knows maybe you were actually there?

The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict, Pramila Patten, said Monday there were “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhuman treatment of women during the attack.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


Are you able to explain the UN Report, an investigation undertaken by a woman who oversees sexual violence in conflicts on behalf of the UN Sec Gen?


Because Me2 unless you are a Jew.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


Are you able to explain the UN Report, an investigation undertaken by a woman who oversees sexual violence in conflicts on behalf of the UN Sec Gen?


Because Me2 unless you are a Jew.


Can you name the rape victim by Hamas ? Because the therapists, doctors, hostage survivors , journalists who scoured Israeli rape crisis lines and specialists couldn’t find any.

Jewish people are upset that people aren’t taking their word without question.

After Israel lied about 40 beheaded infant babies , babies in the oven, babies hung on the clothesline, raped women with fingers chopped off, chopped up wombs , it’s hard to take Israel seriously . All that happened in 10/7 under 24 hours?

Israel also admitted in the 90s that no Holocaust victims were made into soaps or lampshades . Another sensational lie somehow misreported by everyone as gospel truth
Anonymous
By the way, some nutty Polish guy in Chicago killed a 6 year old Palestinian boy that he used to play with all because he was triggered by hearing the American president repeat Netanyahus lie that infants were beheaded by Hamas on 10/7. This is the danger that false media reports or propoganda have . Of all people, Jewish people should understand the severity of false media propoganda and blood libel as it was done to them for centuries but they still did it with Hamas-
as if what Hamas actually did wasn’t horrific enough, and needed extra salt and seasoning to make a juicer story

That family should sue Israel and CNN and Bibi and Biden as a collective. A 6 year old American child lost his life over lies
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone in this thread want to offer a Mae culpa for denying the rapes that occurred that the U.N. confirmed? Both on 10/7 and in captivity? Anyone?



Yeah, I do. If they have been proven to have happened (beyond the UN statements I saw yesterday that were not quite definitive), I was wrong to have suggested the evidence would prove otherwise. Mea culpa.


Never denied.

Still. Need to eliminate all Zionists. Then there will be peace.


And a call for genocide.

Lovely.


I wouldn't be supportive of the elimination of any group of people without much more granular information, but how is this different than calling for the mass elimination of Hamas? You understand that Zionism is viewed as an unapologetically violent, vicious, inhumane, and racist ideology, right?

Zionism is abhorrent. It's NOT simply about creating and sustaining a Jewish homeland, unless you want to pretend that the ends justify the means - no matter how violent, viciously cruel, inhumane and racist those means were/are.

Hamas is obviously abhorrent, as well. But let's not pretend that subjugated people seeking any means necessary[u] to try to achieve their goals isn't an accusation that can comfortably describe the actions of both of these groups. In fact, Zionism fathered modern day terrorism. It's a fact. If you dispute that, go cry and pound sand about 10/7 elsewhere.


My, what a contortionist you are!

You called for genocide of Zionists, which includes virtually every Israeli.

So the equivalent is not, as you argue, calling for the elimination of Hamas; rather, the equivalent would be calling for genocide of Palestinians.

Evil, hypocritical, and not particularly capable, all in one neat little package.

Thanks for so ably demonstrating the true colors and the limitations of the pro-Palestinian movement. Much appreciated.


Also, to add, I believe it's possible to be Israeli, support the right of Israel to exist, and yet not be a racist, intolerant, POS Zionist. In fact, I hope that most of Israel is comprised of people like that - proud Israelis who don't support the apartheid, war crime actions of their government.


If you support the right of Israel to exist, you’re a Zionist. Congrats/ So which is it?


NP

So a Zionist supports the right of Israel to exist by any means necessary? By forcible eviction of the Palestinians if it comes down to it? Just making sure I understand the defn and at what point one stops being a Zionist? I think I am falling off the bandwagon. I used to believe Israel had a right to exist. For the most part, I still do. I just don’t think I can support an Israeli state over Palestinian lives and dignity.

Do you know what percentage of Israelis are zionists? Do you know what percentage of Jewish people are zionists? Do you know what percentage of American Jews are zionists? Any reputable data anyone can point me to? Wondering if everyone shares the definition of “Zionism” when they call themselves a zionist or not.


A Zionist believes the Jewish people have a right to have a homeland where Jewish people can hold positions of power.

Next time you doubt Israel’s right to exist, ask yourself this:

1) Do you believe Saudi Arabia has the right to exist as a nation where Muslims hold most positions of power?

2) Do you believe the US has the right to exist as a nation where Christians hold most positions of power?

3) If you agree that both Sadi Arabia and the US have the right to exist, despite both being heavily influenced by their dominant religion, why would you question Israel’s right to exist with Jewish people holding most positions of power?

Zionism is a scary word often twisted into hate, when at its base it is a very simple question. There are hundreds of nations that are, either explicitly or implicitly, tied to other faiths (I used Muslim and Christian because they are most common, but there are also Buddhist and other nations). There are also many examples of nations formed on historical and religious grounds (I.E. the Vatican City, Germany following the desolation of the USSR, etc), but there is one small nation that is primarily Jewish, that was founded based on religious and historical relevance to its people. Jewish people, by and large, do not believe that a sole Jewish nation cannot and should not be maintained when few question the prevalence of nations identifying themselves through religion.

That is what Zionism it, at its core, the belief that asking for one small nation, ruled in a democratic and peaceful nature, providing support to all that May live there (regardless of their religion) is not too much to ask for a people that have been repeatedly banished, violently disregarded, and attacked based on their religion.

Zionism is not the hate it has been made out to be by extremists. It’s not a belief in the Devine nature of Israel, nor is it the belief that Israel is solely for Jews (and in fact, there are many Muslims who serve in the Israeli government, in the IDF, and in prominent positions in Israeli social scenes). Nor is it the belief that Palestinians must die.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


Looks like a reputable source! Guess you don’t believe the antisemitic UN either. If even they had to admit what happened on Oct 7, it was far worse than in their report
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


The UN states that rape allegations are credible but I doubt you would believe them unless you personally witnessed it. Who knows maybe you were actually there?

The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict, Pramila Patten, said Monday there were “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhuman treatment of women during the attack.


Now the UN is credible to you ? I thought Israel calls them anti Semitic and wanting to threaten funding ? They were brow beaten into making that statement that they have “reasonable grounds” to believe rape occurred without going into detail.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel ramped up its criticism of the embattled U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees Monday, saying 450 of its employees were members of militant groups in the Gaza Strip, though it provided no evidence to back up its accusation.


https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-03-04-2024-a93b77e949d3bdc459311fd84d0f90ba




Just more evidence the UN needs to be disbanded following the end of the war.

We cannot have a terrorist organization pretending to speak for the world. Especially one actively supporting an active genocide against Jews.


WTF is wrong with you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine the US attorney general or NSC director being the guest of honor duiny a Klan rally March inside black neighborhoods in Washington DC with loudspeakers? That’s what Ben Gvir did last spring.

Ben Gvir was Marching in Palestinian Territories in the West Bank (the name Palestinian territory being needed as a submarker as there is now Israeli territory in the West Bank) screaming death to Arabs last spring .

This is an extreme spitting in the face of the people who already lost much land and security in the small parcels of land they had left .

You can’t cry when the hail hits you back


Ben Gvir is a disgrace although I don’t agree with your analogy.

And nice justification for gang rape and murder, you sicko.


You are the ones justifying murder.

Gang rape was long debunked by Max Blumenthal, Jewish. The December New York Times story “Screams without Words” was debunked.

You can read more about it here

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/amp/


Looks like a reputable source! Guess you don’t believe the antisemitic UN either. If even they had to admit what happened on Oct 7, it was far worse than in their report


Israel has to fish for mass rapes to justify starvation, bombing, torture, and murder . They had abortion services ready for all the released girls three months ago and all rejected it and said there wasn’t any rape , but of course Israel and the UN knows better.

There was however Israelis raping Israeli teenage girls /survivors that were put up at Israeli hotels from the kibbutz

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