ECNL moving to school year not calendar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless there is currently a lot going on behind the scenes with ECNL and US Soccer, there’s no way ECNL can make SY happen in 25/26. ECNL was crazy not to make that happen.



ECNL will be SY 26/27 9/1 cutoff but showcases will be based off grad year. 27/28 each team can use up to 3 GY players for league play. 28/29 ECNL is a grad year league.


Do people just make this stuff up?


A buddy of mine who’s a former pro and college coach currently an ECNL coach told me this is being discussed. Let’s stop it now and get anti GY going.

No hold backs allowed!


This is such an asinine “appeal to 2nd hand authority”

What does “former pro, former college coach” have anything to do with their credibility? And anyone that has dealt with ECNL also knows that in general the coaches know nothing about the league politics, they just want to have their team and coach.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless there is currently a lot going on behind the scenes with ECNL and US Soccer, there’s no way ECNL can make SY happen in 25/26. ECNL was crazy not to make that happen.



ECNL will be SY 26/27 9/1 cutoff but showcases will be based off grad year. 27/28 each team can use up to 3 GY players for league play. 28/29 ECNL is a grad year league.


Really hope that isn’t the plan. How convoluted. What a wasted couple of years. Just make the change!


Will say because of Covid they found many kids are not in the correct grade they want to optimize college recruiting and other bs reasons. If your kids in high school already it shouldn’t affect them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless there is currently a lot going on behind the scenes with ECNL and US Soccer, there’s no way ECNL can make SY happen in 25/26. ECNL was crazy not to make that happen.



ECNL will be SY 26/27 9/1 cutoff but showcases will be based off grad year. 27/28 each team can use up to 3 GY players for league play. 28/29 ECNL is a grad year league.


Do people just make this stuff up?


A buddy of mine who’s a former pro and college coach currently an ECNL coach told me this is being discussed. Let’s stop it now and get anti GY going.

No hold backs allowed!


This is such an asinine “appeal to 2nd hand authority”

What does “former pro, former college coach” have anything to do with their credibility? And anyone that has dealt with ECNL also knows that in general the coaches know nothing about the league politics, they just want to have their team and coach.


He’s in the inner circle of all these soccer people is all I was saying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Midwest United (michigan) becomes the first ECNL club to officially get dropped by the league.

Will there be more to come?

GA can officially say they picked up a full ECNL club now I guess.


Keep up, dude. There's a whole thread on all of this ... https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1095/1235441.page

Also, Midwest -- if actually dropped vs. perhaps choosing a new route vs. maybe a little bit of both -- shows how political ECNL is to its own detriment, because there were worse teams across age groups in the midwest. If you dig in further you'll see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Midwest United (michigan) becomes the first ECNL club to officially get dropped by the league.

Will there be more to come?

GA can officially say they picked up a full ECNL club now I guess.


Keep up, dude. There's a whole thread on all of this ... https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1095/1235441.page

Also, Midwest -- if actually dropped vs. perhaps choosing a new route vs. maybe a little bit of both -- shows how political ECNL is to its own detriment, because there were worse teams across age groups in the midwest. If you dig in further you'll see.


Yep, I’d get rid of underperforming 2nd teams like MI Hawks Magic.
Anonymous
If put 3 q3/q4 in the younger team is the transition plan, us soccer should approve it. MLS has done biobanding many years
Anonymous
Expand the 2 Q3/4 from 8th and 12th grade across the whole ecnl. Transition.
Anonymous
I’d be curious to see how many ecnl clubs take advantage of the 2 trapped 8th grade players to play with SY teams bs how many don’t. Does that skew results and standings within the conferences?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d be curious to see how many ecnl clubs take advantage of the 2 trapped 8th grade players to play with SY teams bs how many don’t. Does that skew results and standings within the conferences?


Somewhat and you definitely hear Club A uses trapped players Club B doesn't mentioned all the time. Of course the actual impact will vary based on how good those players are and the specific clubs.
Anonymous
It seems like an unfair advantage for some but not others. The way to fix that is to allow it across all age groups, so 25/26 isn’t a wasted year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It seems like an unfair advantage for some but not others. The way to fix that is to allow it across all age groups, so 25/26 isn’t a wasted year.


If ECNL includes 2/3 Q3/Q4 in the younger team in the plan, I don't see US Soccer denying it since its own MLS clubs have allowed biobanding since its beginning. Whether the club will take Q3/Q4 is the club's decision.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like an unfair advantage for some but not others. The way to fix that is to allow it across all age groups, so 25/26 isn’t a wasted year.


If ECNL includes 2/3 Q3/Q4 in the younger team in the plan, I don't see US Soccer denying it since its own MLS clubs have allowed biobanding since its beginning. Whether the club will take Q3/Q4 is the club's decision.



If some clubs do and other don’t then it’ll be to the disadvantage of those who decide not to
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless there is currently a lot going on behind the scenes with ECNL and US Soccer, there’s no way ECNL can make SY happen in 25/26. ECNL was crazy not to make that happen.



ECNL will be SY 26/27 9/1 cutoff but showcases will be based off grad year. 27/28 each team can use up to 3 GY players for league play. 28/29 ECNL is a grad year league.


Really hope that isn’t the plan. How convoluted. What a wasted couple of years. Just make the change!


They should just make the change now. Not allow 2 here 3 there, then thing will be 5. Just make the change. How many will move between team anyway….probably 2 to 6 players
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless there is currently a lot going on behind the scenes with ECNL and US Soccer, there’s no way ECNL can make SY happen in 25/26. ECNL was crazy not to make that happen.



ECNL will be SY 26/27 9/1 cutoff but showcases will be based off grad year. 27/28 each team can use up to 3 GY players for league play. 28/29 ECNL is a grad year league.


Really hope that isn’t the plan. How convoluted. What a wasted couple of years. Just make the change!


They should just make the change now. Not allow 2 here 3 there, then thing will be 5. Just make the change. How many will move between team anyway….probably 2 to 6 players


Completely agree. You are putting teams and families in limbo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the trapped players only allowed to play ecnl during the HS season? So then what happens to the kids who in the fall in VA played ECNL on the team below 3 are dropped to NCSL to allow 3 to play in the younger age group?

Doesn’t it mess with team cohesion?


The trapped player are only allowed to play with the u14 group when the rest of the team is playing high school. How each club handles that situation is handled differently. Some clubs don’t take advantage of the trapped players at all, which could skew u14 results across the league.



ECNL wouldnt'. be doing this if they thought their existing very limited solution was an actual solution. It's clear they don't like it.


ECNL has always had solutions for trapped players. The clubs also have/had solutions for trapped players.

ECNL has very little visibility into what clubs do. And clubs have very little visibility in what ECNL does.

The SY change was based out of ECNL honchos own experience. One has a kid that was a trapped 8th grader (boy). And now that the SY change seems to be assured for his HS years, ECNL’s leadership is already turning their advocacy / astroturf efforts to foreign players in NCAA (a largely boys only issue).

This was never about your kid. Never about girls (the only successful league in ECNL). Never about clubs (the clubs were only polled after ECNL started pushing the agenda in committee at USSF).

Even the cutoff date “debate” shows that it isn’t about our kids, it’s about their kids. I get it. If I had the ability to use the levers of power to create better opportunities for my own kid, I’d think about it for sure, and I might use those levers for personal benefit too. I’d like to think otherwise, but I just don’t know.

Don’t kid yourself. ECNL isn’t in the solutions game. It’s a league. Not an NGO or some charity organization.
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