Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

This thread is about to go strangely quiet I’m sure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it could have been a couple of things.

1. He was standing next to the bike preparing to rent it and she ran up and sat down on it because she also wanted to rent it.

2. She sat down on the bike preparing to rent it and he walked up and attempted to rent it while she was already seated

The video does not start early enough to show which situation occurred.

Exactly. So what I don't get is why someone's life needs to be ruined based on this.

I’m sure there’s CCTV footage.

[Anonymous]

You know what? I’d like to thank Jeff for not silencing the people who doubted the teens’ account. I know Jeff gets accused of knee jerk responses in favor of the left or whatever, but he let us unravel this mystery unimpeded. Thanks, Jeff. Sincerely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the lawyer’s account is legitimate, I will happily admit to being wrong. Like any normal person.

Thank you for that. You seem quite sane for DCUM. I’m just waiting for some whacko to move the goalpost yet again. There’s gotta be a way they can reframe it so that they don’t have to admit they were wrong and still make the PA look like she was the aggressor, right?

PP here. Well, sure. There will always be people like that.

Personally, when I saw the video, and how she was acting…the initial account of the story seemed legitimate. But I recognized that they had started taping after the beginning of the confrontation, and that there was context missing. I had thought the missing context was that he was standing there about to reserve the bike when she strolled up and got on, and apparently I was wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I’d like to thank Jeff for not silencing the people who doubted the teens’ account. I know Jeff gets accused of knee jerk responses in favor of the left or whatever, but he let us unravel this mystery unimpeded. Thanks, Jeff. Sincerely.

Agree. He probably had his doubts too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the lawyer’s account is legitimate, I will happily admit to being wrong. Like any normal person.

Thank you for that. You seem quite sane for DCUM. I’m just waiting for some whacko to move the goalpost yet again. There’s gotta be a way they can reframe it so that they don’t have to admit they were wrong and still make the PA look like she was the aggressor, right?

PP here. Well, sure. There will always be people like that.

Personally, when I saw the video, and how she was acting…the initial account of the story seemed legitimate. But I recognized that they had started taping after the beginning of the confrontation, and that there was context missing. I had thought the missing context was that he was standing there about to reserve the bike when she strolled up and got on, and apparently I was wrong.

Shouldn't common sense tell you a pregnant woman just getting off a long day of work isn't likely to play such games? Really?

[Anonymous]

I was holding back on commenting on this thread, betting that “new facts” would suddenly come to light after this poor woman had her life destroyed and I was right.

I hope she sues every single online jerk she can for defamation, and wins.

[Anonymous]

The people who rushed to to the torches and pitchforks for this woman need to think about a few things:

Yes, her lawyer's statement, with literal receipts, should make you rethink your assumptions about what happened here. If it's true that she rented the bike and they physically pushed it back into the dock with her on it, there is pretty much no way to stay on their side here, right?

BUT even if you are big enough to admit that you were wrong after this comes out, consider that a lot of people recognized something was off about this narrative before this statement came out. A lot of us saw the video and had questions like "why is she sitting on the bike and he's not, if it's his bike?" or "why is that considered fake crying -- she seems genuinely upset" or "why does the friend in the purple sweatshirt keep saying they should just let her have the bike?" Like even if it turned out she was in the wrong, there was PLENTY of evidence that this story was not cut and dried before the lawyer comes up with the receipts.

So, I ask you: how are you going to respond differently the next time you see a tweet or a headline claiming that some white woman is a horrible racist endangering innocent black men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the lawyer’s account is legitimate, I will happily admit to being wrong. Like any normal person.

Thank you for that. You seem quite sane for DCUM. I’m just waiting for some whacko to move the goalpost yet again. There’s gotta be a way they can reframe it so that they don’t have to admit they were wrong and still make the PA look like she was the aggressor, right?

PP here. Well, sure. There will always be people like that.

Personally, when I saw the video, and how she was acting…the initial account of the story seemed legitimate. But I recognized that they had started taping after the beginning of the confrontation, and that there was context missing. I had thought the missing context was that he was standing there about to reserve the bike when she strolled up and got on, and apparently I was wrong.

Shouldn't common sense tell you a pregnant woman just getting off a long day of work isn't likely to play such games? Really?

No, “common sense” doesn’t tell me how people will or won’t behave towards strangers. Have you met people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was holding back on commenting on this thread, betting that “new facts” would suddenly come to light after this poor woman had her life destroyed and I was right.

I hope she sues every single online jerk she can for defamation, and wins.

She’s got a lawyer now. As a lawyer who has handled 1A claims, I’m excited for her to be vindicated by fat check from The Root and Yahoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

Link?

If true, I hope everyone who dragged this woman through mud and equated her to the woman who got Emmett Till murdered enjoys their big 'ole bowl full of rotten, putrid, toxic crow. They made it.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/

Apparently her attorney has time-stamped receipts.

I posted yesterday (I'm the one someone called "a troll with better grammar") and it looks like, based on this, I was 100% wrong. Just wanted to put that out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I’d like to thank Jeff for not silencing the people who doubted the teens’ account. I know Jeff gets accused of knee jerk responses in favor of the left or whatever, but he let us unravel this mystery unimpeded. Thanks, Jeff. Sincerely.

+1, I was sure this thread would be shut down and it was almost a surprise daily when it was still up. I don't know if we did any good here, but I like to think we contributed to a more rational and calm approach to this situation in online discourse. I think even a few people reading the thread came around to the more nuanced approach after a time, and that's something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the lawyer’s account is legitimate, I will happily admit to being wrong. Like any normal person.

Thank you for that. You seem quite sane for DCUM. I’m just waiting for some whacko to move the goalpost yet again. There’s gotta be a way they can reframe it so that they don’t have to admit they were wrong and still make the PA look like she was the aggressor, right?

PP here. Well, sure. There will always be people like that.

Personally, when I saw the video, and how she was acting…the initial account of the story seemed legitimate. But I recognized that they had started taping after the beginning of the confrontation, and that there was context missing. I had thought the missing context was that he was standing there about to reserve the bike when she strolled up and got on, and apparently I was wrong.

Shouldn't common sense tell you a pregnant woman just getting off a long day of work isn't likely to play such games? Really?

No, “common sense” doesn’t tell me how people will or won’t behave towards strangers. Have you met people?

Yes. It's shocking that people like you sit on juries and lack basic common sense and are driven by biases and fantastical thinking. You so wanted to believe the unbelievable here. Why? There was enough information here that things weren't as they appeared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her attorney now claims she had already rented the bike when the guy came up to her, forcefully pushed the bike back into to the stand relocking it and then pushed her aside to rent it while she is sitting on it. She has rental receipts. She wasn't holding her phone because she had already rented the bike and put the phone away. This before filming started.

Link?

If true, I hope everyone who dragged this woman through mud and equated her to the woman who got Emmett Till murdered enjoys their big 'ole bowl full of rotten, putrid, toxic crow. They made it.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/nyc-hospital-karen-paid-for-citi-bike-at-center-of-fight-with-black-man/

Apparently her attorney has time-stamped receipts.

I posted yesterday (I'm the one someone called "a troll with better grammar") and it looks like, based on this, I was 100% wrong. Just wanted to put that out there.

Thank you! Mad respect here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IF the video shows the entire incident, then yep, she’s nuts. IF the video is edited and there is much more to the story, I can’t make a judgment. No one can.
I’ll wait a few more days to see if any other facts come to light.

Just want to point out this was me!

I'm glad you took a wait and see approach, but I disagree that if the video showed the entire incident "she's nuts." A lot of us saw the video and immediately saw that the men were also acting in a really aggressive and inappropriate manner (the physicality of pushing against her on the bike, the taunting insults of the videographer, the kid in the background who says "your baby is gonna come out [disability slur]." A lot of people were watching that video very selectively and only focusing on some of her behavior that seemed wrong (grabbing his phone, her kind of flat affect, the fact that she stops crying when she gets off the bike). But there was plenty in the video itself that indicated this wasn't about some random racist woman stealing a bike and then faking tears to get the guys in trouble. And a lot of people chose not to see it because they'd been told "this is a Karen, she's wrong" and just went with it.