Big Beautiful Bill

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Susan Collins proposed an amendment for higher taxes on the wealthy to fund rural hospitals. Democrats voted no.

Why should rural hospitals get a bailout while the ones most of the country uses get screwed?

No hospitals should get screwed. But would you travel 400 miles to go to a hospital? You'd be dead or need pricy helicopter transport. We need rural hospitals but we also need health care reform and a universal system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Susan Collins proposed an amendment for higher taxes on the wealthy to fund rural hospitals. Democrats voted no.

Why should rural hospitals get a bailout while the ones most of the country uses get screwed?

No hospitals should get screwed. But would you travel 400 miles to go to a hospital? You'd be dead or need pricy helicopter transport. We need rural hospitals but we also need health care reform and a universal system.

And democrats voted against the bill that’s going to screw all hospitals in this country. Rural hospitals shouldn’t get a special deal, particularly when the people who use those hospitals voted for the people screwing them over.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw a quick hallway interview with Murkowski on the news last night. She sounded as dumb as we always knew she was. How does she keep getting elected?

She talks big and then votes party lines. She’s a nepo senator.

Dems vote party lines. Reps vote party lines. She's normal, not bad or evil.

The ones who don't vote party lines, they're the ones who are hated by everyone in both parties.

And politicians used to work together to solve problems before the age of social media and opinion news.

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This is the problem, not Murkowski. (Or Tillis or Hawley or or or).

Agree. No one wants to be seen in the same photo with the other side let be accused of bipartisanship. Bipartisanship has become a dirty word and it is only getting worse. The fringes prefer to pull Americans apart to keep their own personal brand alive and stay in their position.

[Anonymous]

At the moment, according to Fox, there are at least 12 "no" votes on the GOP House side. I am sure that will get winnowed down with threats from the president and MAGAs in due course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw a quick hallway interview with Murkowski on the news last night. She sounded as dumb as we always knew she was. How does she keep getting elected?

She truly is an idiot if she thinks the MAGA promises made to Alaska to get her onboard will ever come to fruition.

[Anonymous]

There it is - this bill is really about giving ice a new big blank check. This is not just about illegal inmigrants.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/30/opinion/thepoint?smid=url-share


“Everything else — the CBO score, the proper baseline, the minutiae of the Medicaid policy — is immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions,” he continued.

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Anonymous wrote:There it is - this bill is really about giving ice a new big blank check. This is not just about illegal inmigrants.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/30/opinion/thepoint?smid=url-share


“Everything else — the CBO score, the proper baseline, the minutiae of the Medicaid policy — is immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions,” he continued.

DP. Fine. Give ICE a lot of $. Pay for it with taxes, not by cutting Medicaid or whatever.

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BBB screws poor people at every turn.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/07/02/senior-deduction-trump-social-security/

[Anonymous]

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I saw an interesting point on this last evening. The person said that the GOP knows internally that a blue wave is coming in 2026, so delaying the massive cuts to happen until after that point will help the GOP because Dems will be in power when they go into effect and the GOP can stand back and say, "Look what the Dems did! We had things perfect and they effed it up again!" That will ensure public anger with the Dems and props up the GOP to win the 2028 Presidential election.

I thought that was an interesting take and one I can totally see happening. There have been stories that have come out about how worried the GOP is internally with how the public is turning on Trump, including many of his voters. They were already worried about midterms and that's one of the reasons why they stopped doing town halls as well.

Not a chance of this happening. The egregious actions inflicted by this administration will not be forgotten. Everything prior to this bill and what’s to come will result in a midterm bloodbath.

The house still has procedural and substantive power to disrupt the bastardized bill. They could reject the Senate's version and demand further changes. They can obstruct legislation, demand recorded votes on procedural motions and amendments, toss in some irrelevant amendments, and delay conference committees. They should disrupt and delay!

Trump threatening Senate and House Rep seats is such an amateurish play. Double down on TACO.

You put far too much faith in the intelligence of your fellow man.

Do you know how many people I've corrected about the pandemic & who was in power when it started? It wasn't even that long ago and tons of these MAGA dumb-dumbs have already forgotten that Trump was president in 2019, ALL of 2020, and until Jan 20, 2021.

"when Biden shut our schools down..."
Biden didn't do that. That was ordered and done under Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I saw an interesting point on this last evening. The person said that the GOP knows internally that a blue wave is coming in 2026, so delaying the massive cuts to happen until after that point will help the GOP because Dems will be in power when they go into effect and the GOP can stand back and say, "Look what the Dems did! We had things perfect and they effed it up again!" That will ensure public anger with the Dems and props up the GOP to win the 2028 Presidential election.

I thought that was an interesting take and one I can totally see happening. There have been stories that have come out about how worried the GOP is internally with how the public is turning on Trump, including many of his voters. They were already worried about midterms and that's one of the reasons why they stopped doing town halls as well.

Not a chance of this happening. The egregious actions inflicted by this administration will not be forgotten. Everything prior to this bill and what’s to come will result in a midterm bloodbath.

The house still has procedural and substantive power to disrupt the bastardized bill. They could reject the Senate's version and demand further changes. They can obstruct legislation, demand recorded votes on procedural motions and amendments, toss in some irrelevant amendments, and delay conference committees. They should disrupt and delay!

Trump threatening Senate and House Rep seats is such an amateurish play. Double down on TACO.

You put far too much faith in the intelligence of your fellow man.

Do you know how many people I've corrected about the pandemic & who was in power when it started? It wasn't even that long ago and tons of these MAGA dumb-dumbs have already forgotten that Trump was president in 2019, ALL of 2020, and until Jan 20, 2021.

"when Biden shut our schools down..."
Biden didn't do that. That was ordered and done under Trump.

Yeah I have little faith in the American public. Unfortunately this bill is popular with the base overall even if there are provisions they don’t like. This is partly why republicans are afraid to vote against it- it’s not just trump, there are phone campaigns urging congressmen to pass it or they’ll get primaried.

[Anonymous]

Even if there is possibly 1.4 million illegals on Medicaid, the overwhelming #1 recipient of Medicaid is white, non-Hispanic people.

96 million people are on Medicaid
-43% of those are white, non-Hispanic
-28% of those are Hispanic
-21% of those are black, non-Hispanic

28% of 96 million is 26,880,000 Hispanic people on Medicaid. If 1.4 million of those are illegals, that's still ONLY 5% of the total Hispanic recipients.

How many of the 43% of white people on Medicaid will turn out to be fraud? These white people cheering for getting the illegals off Medicaid don't even realize they're cheering for their own demise.

https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/data-and-systems/downloads/macbis/2020-race-etncity-data-brf.pdf

[Anonymous]

70 million to over 100 million are estimated to be negatively impacted by this bill. A third of Americans will suffer. That’s your Republican government working for the little guy. I will never understand why the middle to lower income vote for republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:70 million to over 100 million are estimated to be negatively impacted by this bill. A third of Americans will suffer. That’s your Republican government working for the little guy. I will never understand why the middle to lower income vote for republicans.

Fox has convinced them to put aside their own interests to punish the trannies and gays

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Susan Collins proposed an amendment for higher taxes on the wealthy to fund rural hospitals. Democrats voted no.

Why should rural hospitals get a bailout while the ones most of the country uses get screwed?

No hospitals should get screwed. But would you travel 400 miles to go to a hospital? You'd be dead or need pricy helicopter transport. We need rural hospitals but we also need health care reform and a universal system.

And democrats voted against the bill that’s going to screw all hospitals in this country. Rural hospitals shouldn’t get a special deal, particularly when the people who use those hospitals voted for the people screwing them over.

This is where I come out at this point. Red state voters support these people IN SPITE OF how it will affect them. So, let them deal with it and no bail out for them. They can figure it out. While I support universal healthcare, support Medicaid, support the idea that no one should be w/o hospital access THEY DID THIS TO THEMSELVES. I don't care anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:70 million to over 100 million are estimated to be negatively impacted by this bill. A third of Americans will suffer. That’s your Republican government working for the little guy. I will never understand why the middle to lower income vote for republicans.

Trump is well on the way of leaving the country worse off from what he inherited. Just like he did last time. And it's going to need to be fixed...again.