Support the Montgomery Virtual Academy (MVA) from Budget Cuts!

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Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


Because we are good people who agreed kids should be virtual due to the pandemic, health care was overloaded and the high transmission rate. Why cannot you acknowledge how serious covid was at that time?
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Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


I'm sorry taking care of your kids was so difficult for you.
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Anonymous wrote:What is it about the VA that brings out the worst in people? Jealousy can be so ugly.


I don't think it should be surprising. A lot of the loudest MVA supporters haven't socialized with others normally for over 4 years.

If you really want to see some people that are unstable, check out the r/ZeroCovidCommunity.


You have no idea who the families are in the MVA.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


Because we are good people who agreed kids should be virtual due to the pandemic, health care was overloaded and the high transmission rate. Why cannot you acknowledge how serious covid was at that time?


Not by the fall.
Anonymous
I hope they hurry up and cancel this already because I'm tired of reading about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


Because we are good people who agreed kids should be virtual due to the pandemic, health care was overloaded and the high transmission rate. Why cannot you acknowledge how serious covid was at that time?


Not by the fall.


You forgot about omnicron.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope they hurry up and cancel this already because I'm tired of reading about it.


They already did cancel it. It’s dead
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


Because we are good people who agreed kids should be virtual due to the pandemic, health care was overloaded and the high transmission rate. Why cannot you acknowledge how serious covid was at that time?


Not by the fall.


You forgot about omnicron.


Partly given the misspelling, I can't tell if that was a joke. Assuming you were serious, Omicron wasn't until after MCPS reopened, and MCPS remained open. We certainly could have reopened in fall 2020.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


Because we are good people who agreed kids should be virtual due to the pandemic, health care was overloaded and the high transmission rate. Why cannot you acknowledge how serious covid was at that time?


Not by the fall.


You forgot about omnicron.


Partly given the misspelling, I can't tell if that was a joke. Assuming you were serious, Omicron wasn't until after MCPS reopened, and MCPS remained open. We certainly could have reopened in fall 2020.


If you think plagues are funny then the whole thing has been a laugh riot for you. You clearly do not understand how opening made things worse.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love that the person who says “significant school choice” is the “only” thing that’ll salvage American education is hellbent on denying others that same choice. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but not surprising.


I'm not the school choice poster, but I'll note that the MVA supporters aren't any better. They now like to talk about how important it is to offer the choice of virtual because not all kids can learn in the same environment, but they still won't acknowledge it was wrong to deny kids a similar choice for 18 months until the fall of 2021.

The reality is everyone is watching out for themselves and their kids. If you want to send your kids to MVA, or you want to teach in MVA, then that means coming up with arguments to support it, regardless of any logical inconsistencies with previous positions expressed. If you send your kids to MCPS schools, then that means advocating for maximizing the resources available to those schools by keeping MVA closed.


Actually most MVA parents fully acknowledge that virtual didn’t work for everyone. It’s in person parents who won’t acknowledge virtual works for others without trying to say they are bad parents, want kids to go on vacations, shield their eyes from school clothing (the most bizarre argument yet), etc.


I've never heard a single MVA supporter acknowledge that kids should have had the opportunity to go to school in fall 2020. Some even point to MVA as an example for the rest of MCPS to follow.


Because we are good people who agreed kids should be virtual due to the pandemic, health care was overloaded and the high transmission rate. Why cannot you acknowledge how serious covid was at that time?


Not by the fall.


You forgot about omnicron.


Partly given the misspelling, I can't tell if that was a joke. Assuming you were serious, Omicron wasn't until after MCPS reopened, and MCPS remained open. We certainly could have reopened in fall 2020.


If you think plagues are funny then the whole thing has been a laugh riot for you. You clearly do not understand how opening made things worse.


Except it didn't. I get how you argued, in theoretical terms, that reopening would make things worse before we did it. But we actually did it and it was fine. The practice of only closing individual schools when staffing became too difficult was a fine way to avoid a system-wide closure.
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After 68 pages of ping ponging about whether COVID is still a thing or not, I'll weigh in. I'm not even a little bit afraid of COVID or any other contagion right now. Yet I still see value in a virtual option for kids who either can't or don't want to attend school. Is virtual as effective as in person? Of course not. Is it better than no school at all (which is what the data says about 25% or more kids in MCPS). MCPS is willing to waste tens of millions on all kinds of nonsense. Virtual school seems like a good investment that could use some improvement such as a state-run virtual school that all the counties could join, economies of scale and all.
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Anonymous wrote:After 68 pages of ping ponging about whether COVID is still a thing or not, I'll weigh in. I'm not even a little bit afraid of COVID or any other contagion right now. Yet I still see value in a virtual option for kids who either can't or don't want to attend school. Is virtual as effective as in person? Of course not. Is it better than no school at all (which is what the data says about 25% or more kids in MCPS). MCPS is willing to waste tens of millions on all kinds of nonsense. Virtual school seems like a good investment that could use some improvement such as a state-run virtual school that all the counties could join, economies of scale and all.


What makes you think that kids who don’t bother attending in-person school would be present for virtual school? The chronic absenteeism rates for the MVA were higher than in-person and the graduation rates for NCS were lower.
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Anonymous wrote:After 68 pages of ping ponging about whether COVID is still a thing or not, I'll weigh in. I'm not even a little bit afraid of COVID or any other contagion right now. Yet I still see value in a virtual option for kids who either can't or don't want to attend school. Is virtual as effective as in person? Of course not. Is it better than no school at all (which is what the data says about 25% or more kids in MCPS). MCPS is willing to waste tens of millions on all kinds of nonsense. Virtual school seems like a good investment that could use some improvement such as a state-run virtual school that all the counties could join, economies of scale and all.


I'm one of the more vocally critical pp's regarding MVA, but I agree with this assessment.
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Anonymous wrote:After 68 pages of ping ponging about whether COVID is still a thing or not, I'll weigh in. I'm not even a little bit afraid of COVID or any other contagion right now. Yet I still see value in a virtual option for kids who either can't or don't want to attend school. Is virtual as effective as in person? Of course not. Is it better than no school at all (which is what the data says about 25% or more kids in MCPS). MCPS is willing to waste tens of millions on all kinds of nonsense. Virtual school seems like a good investment that could use some improvement such as a state-run virtual school that all the counties could join, economies of scale and all.


What makes you think that kids who don’t bother attending in-person school would be present for virtual school? The chronic absenteeism rates for the MVA were higher than in-person and the graduation rates for NCS were lower.
It's easier to attend school from home (or wherever) than it is to go in person. Remove barriers and we'll serve more kids. It's that simple. We can never serve everyone and we have to acknowledge that. And because we don't need $200 million for a school for these kids virtual school should save $ once some of the issues are ironed out.
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Anonymous wrote:After 68 pages of ping ponging about whether COVID is still a thing or not, I'll weigh in. I'm not even a little bit afraid of COVID or any other contagion right now. Yet I still see value in a virtual option for kids who either can't or don't want to attend school. Is virtual as effective as in person? Of course not. Is it better than no school at all (which is what the data says about 25% or more kids in MCPS). MCPS is willing to waste tens of millions on all kinds of nonsense. Virtual school seems like a good investment that could use some improvement such as a state-run virtual school that all the counties could join, economies of scale and all.


I'm one of the more vocally critical pp's regarding MVA, but I agree with this assessment.
Thank you. My kids are extreme extroverts and their favorite part of school is socializing so our family wouldn't even use MVA. But I realize there are different kinds of people who need different things.
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