Is Western high school going to be sought after?

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I'm not against the school at all (I'm the first poster about the library and gym). It's a beautiful space but it's not ready to be an FCPS high school. Have any of you been in the current FCPS high schools or do you just have little kids? They are HUGE, the bleacher space required for a high school basketball game is like 3-4 times more than what is in Western (that is more equivalent of a middle school gym). The libraries are HUGE. The cafeterias (they only have one each) are HUGE. This school is not going to be a tiny magnet school therefore it will need work and $$ to catch up to regular FCPS high schools. That is all I'm saying. And I'm someone who is excited about the school. My kid will go there.

I'm one of the PP who is being referred to as not understanding high schools. I have three *graduates* from Chantilly, two of who played sports and as a result I have been to MANY other high schools for their games over the last 10 years. There are multiple high schools with smaller gyms - Oakton for example had a tiny gym before the renovation.

Ever go to Langley in the old days? Tiny. Maybe it is larger now.

Some of the high schools built in the mid-60s have small main gyms - Langley, Marshall, TJ, and Edison all come to mind. The gyms have since been renovated but not enlarged, at least not significantly.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

They don’t need lockers, other HS have removed their lockers to give more space in the hallways due to overcrowding.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

NP. I don't believe the school will open in the Fall.

Only way school opens in the fall is if the intent is to have a magnet school.

You are obsessed with this idea. DS has a locker at MS that is used to store his coat, that is it. He carries his backpack with all of his school stuff every day. My understanding is that most kids do the same thing in HS. There would be way too much egg on FCPSs face to not open in the fall, which leads me to believe that the school will open in the fall. And there are a lot of people who are excited for the school to open. We are expecting it to be a different but good experience. There is a lot of positivity around the school for the families opting in. The negativity seems to be coming from the people who don't want to move and the people who are annoyed that FCPS bought the school.

Carson, the MS that all of the Western kids are coming from, does not allow kids to carry their backpacks around. They have and use their lockers, thank goodness.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I'm not against the school at all (I'm the first poster about the library and gym). It's a beautiful space but it's not ready to be an FCPS high school. Have any of you been in the current FCPS high schools or do you just have little kids? They are HUGE, the bleacher space required for a high school basketball game is like 3-4 times more than what is in Western (that is more equivalent of a middle school gym). The libraries are HUGE. The cafeterias (they only have one each) are HUGE. This school is not going to be a tiny magnet school therefore it will need work and $$ to catch up to regular FCPS high schools. That is all I'm saying. And I'm someone who is excited about the school. My kid will go there.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are older now and I don’t have any equities here, but I am going to be really sad if after all of this, Carson is still a split feeder. That was brutal for my kids.

Same, same. I'm a Crossfield mom who wants my kids to be Crossfield - Carson - Western. From talking to neighbors, it was really hard for their kids to go to Oakton where they knew literally no one. I had one neighbor who specifically signed her kids up for sports in the Vienna league and did summer camp at the Oakton rec center so they would have friendly faces in high school and even that didn't work because a lot of those kids went to Madison and Marshall. It's a shame.

Well can we just talk about the fact at how spliced up Oakton is in taking kids from 3 different middle schools.

I would be happy if Carson moved and Oakton had 2 feeder middle schools like everyone else.

And while split feeders shouldn’t exist, they should only exist as 2 way feeders and not 3 or more.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

I haven't seen anyone say Western would have a very high FARMS rate. It won't. It will have a higher FARMS rate than Chantilly or Oakton, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

I haven't seen anyone say Western would have a very high FARMS rate. It won't. It will have a higher FARMS rate than Chantilly or Oakton, though.

not higher than Chantilly--likely between Oakton and Chantilly

Why are you so fixated on this?

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

I haven't seen anyone say Western would have a very high FARMS rate. It won't. It will have a higher FARMS rate than Chantilly or Oakton, though.

not higher than Chantilly--likely between Oakton and Chantilly

Why are you so fixated on this?

I'm not. Why are you trying to wish Coates and McNair out of existence?

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

I haven't seen anyone say Western would have a very high FARMS rate. It won't. It will have a higher FARMS rate than Chantilly or Oakton, though.

not higher than Chantilly--likely between Oakton and Chantilly

Why are you so fixated on this?

I'm not. Why are you trying to wish Coates and McNair out of existence?

You must not realize that they are already at Carson.

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I calculated the FARMS rate to be 21.46% with Fox Mill and Crossfield included.

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Anonymous wrote:I calculated the FARMS rate to be 21.46% with Fox Mill and Crossfield included.

How? That makes no sense. They are already at Carson which has a lower rate.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

I haven't seen anyone say Western would have a very high FARMS rate. It won't. It will have a higher FARMS rate than Chantilly or Oakton, though.

not higher than Chantilly--likely between Oakton and Chantilly

Why are you so fixated on this?

I'm not. Why are you trying to wish Coates and McNair out of existence?

You must not realize that they are already at Carson.

Carson has a very large number of AAP students from Franklin and that population is very low FARMS.

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Anonymous wrote:I calculated the FARMS rate to be 21.46% with Fox Mill and Crossfield included.

It's a stretch to think that both Fox Mill and Crossfield will end up at Western.

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Anonymous wrote:I have doubts that they are going to lie to the entire inaugural population of the school. They said the model will be interdisciplinary learning with integration of traditional subjects and special pathways and had a sample pod set up to show what they meant. They are adapting to the space - they aren't going to gut the entire school to make a rows and rows of square classrooms, they are going to adapt the model to the facilities. I honestly saw very little that will need to be renovated. I think they will size classes to fit the spaces. Based on the turnout - I think they are going to have plenty of opts in and no one will be disrupted who doesn't want to be. The only ones they may lose are the sports-centric kids.

Then you didn't see the cafeteria(s) or library, did you? Or the gym without high school sized bleachers.

Or the lack of locker space

Or the classrooms that can't fit 30 people. It's no where near fitting 1000 students as is. That will require additoinal buildings or turning 1 of the 3 gyms into classroom space. I can see this project balooning out of control cost wise.

I bet this is the same person constantly claiming the FARMS rate will be high. There is someone who really does not want this school to be a traditional high school. I don't think it is a RIO parent, I think it is someone who has been strongly against this school from the beginning.

Some of the comments may have value, but many of them are debunked. Like the very high FARMS rate.

I've said nothing about FARmS. Haven't done enough research

I haven't seen anyone say Western would have a very high FARMS rate. It won't. It will have a higher FARMS rate than Chantilly or Oakton, though.

not higher than Chantilly--likely between Oakton and Chantilly

Why are you so fixated on this?

I'm not. Why are you trying to wish Coates and McNair out of existence?

You must not realize that they are already at Carson.

Carson has a very large number of AAP students from Franklin and that population is very low FARMS.

And, Oak Hill --which almost certainly will end up there--also has very low FARMS.