Massive home addition causes confusion in Fairfax County neighborhood

[Anonymous]

Thats horrendous and should be illegal but oh that's right this is ok now in fairfax and the city of Alexandria residents now have this to look forward to too!

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping they don't turn it into a group home..yes the County allows this by right. Ive seen a neighborhood or two screwed by multiple group homes (for recovering addicts, etc) in Fairfax. Much reform is needed to protect people

I’m surprised too that a group home is allowed by right in a single-family neighborhood. I thought there would be a public hearing and that neighbors would be notified before it gets built.

This exists in our small SFH neighborhood. Our HOA jumped through many hoops to try to prevent it and then stop it, but they're still here years later. It treats court-ordered adults who have coexisting mental health diagnoses, so you can imagine the uproar. If you knew my neighborhood, you would be shocked. This is commonplace in areas of Florida like Palm Beach.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't a house addition, it's an apartment building.

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Nothing confusing about it, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping they don't turn it into a group home..yes the County allows this by right. Ive seen a neighborhood or two screwed by multiple group homes (for recovering addicts, etc) in Fairfax. Much reform is needed to protect people

I’m surprised too that a group home is allowed by right in a single-family neighborhood. I thought there would be a public hearing and that neighbors would be notified before it gets built.

Currently in my neighborhood, there is a 24 person drug rehab facility being built right next-door to the elementary school. We were not notified, nor did we have an opportunity to oppose it prior to the sale and renovations of the home. Our councilwoman in Montgomery County couldn’t care less and was dismissive and rude to the neighbors when they voiced their opinion. So, in other words, I don’t think many of our local governments would give neighbors and residents an opportunity to voice, their concerns and oppose either a drug rehab facility, group home or massive three-story addition.

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Anonymous wrote:No issues - so as long as they construct per approved plans. Concerned neighbors can contact the County and confirm. It’s their property and right to add, develop PER approved plans.

No issues, since this is not next door to you. Corrected that.

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Anonymous wrote:This is no different than a tall townhouse being built in dc among other small ones. People are just jealous they can’t do it too.

Surely you jest. No one here is jealous.

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Anonymous wrote:re: teardown vs. addition. There are a lot of costs in a teardown that you can avoid with an addition, even a large one.

Exactly--you have to move the current occupants out of the house for up to a year. This is much more efficient.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure the suspect in the Gerry Connolly attack lived at 4210 Marble Lane and even attacked one of the neighbors. I remember law enforcement vehicles being in front of it.

https://wjla.com/news/local/gerry-connolly-fairfax-staff-members-assaulted-armed-weapon-suspect-id-baseball-bat-custody-victims-injuries-hospital-city-police-investigation-washington-dc-us-capitol-virginia-voting-rights-democrat-republican-governor-youngkin-politics

OMG WOW. What a strange connection

found not guilty, funnny lol https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-virginia-congressman-gerry-connolly-attack-xuan-kha-tran-pham-insanity-plea-virginia-crime-two-staffers-injured

Good recall.

What a family to live Nextdoor to. Feel sorry for the community.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Asian. While this addition may be 100% legal, just don’t agree with doing this to the neighbors (and the neighborhood in general). Really feeling sorry for that woman next door. Sadly this is where HOAs are appreciated.

The addition literally blocks most of the sunlight to the neighbors house. The nextdoor neighbor is losing the ability to fully use her own property. Fairfax county needs to amend the zoning ordinance to include FAR ratio limits and lot coverage maximums for suburban residential neighborhoods.

There need to be height limitations combined with FAR. If only FAR, one could build a skinny tower or any height of geometry so long as it fits into a ratio. The tower is basically what this family did.

There are height limits. I would bet it's 35 feet. Which, since it has a flat roof, makes it okay. Please read the Fairfax County zoning ordinance.

[Anonymous]

this is what happens when you remove single family zoning. it destroys the neighborhood as people rush to create rental income and have unvetted people live next door.

liberalism at its finest. we all have to sufferrr

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Anonymous wrote:this is what happens when you remove single family zoning. it destroys the neighborhood as people rush to create rental income and have unvetted people live next door.

liberalism at its finest. we all have to sufferrr

They are saying that "family members" are going to live there. I don't believe it. It says 3 generations in the article.

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Anonymous wrote:this is what happens when you remove single family zoning. it destroys the neighborhood as people rush to create rental income and have unvetted people live next door.

liberalism at its finest. we all have to sufferrr

They are saying that "family members" are going to live there. I don't believe it. It says 3 generations in the article.

"family members" that no one will be able to verify. its basically an apartment, that will be full of as many people they can cram in. people moving in and out all the time and the owners of the home, probably will move to a neighborhood that doesnt allow the exact thing they are doing

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Anonymous wrote:4210 marble lane - the house in question was purchased for 488k in 2019 with a FHA mortgage. The next door neighbor from the video at 4208 purchased in 2016 at a very similar price. With the recent run up, they’ve appreciated 200-300k.

In a HCOL area, you can’t come in having high expectations of neighbors with this level of home. This is a low cost starter house type neighborhood that you move out of as soon as you can. Some folks just aren’t able to so they are stuck with the downsides of a low income neighborhood. It’s like living in the projects and complaining there’s crime to the news.

The 4210 folks would’ve been better off selling and buying in Aldie or similar using the joint family $$.

Low income projects? This isn't Sterling or Centreville. Some homes in this neighborhood have been selling in the 900's recently.

no one said it was for low-income projects.

Before 2020, these were lower-middle-class homes. PP is spot on - these were semi-starter homes or if they weren't starter homes they were for working class people or older people who didn't earn much but had 'time in market' on their side.

In 30 years when the entire crop of 1960's built homes here have to be torn down, none of these shitboxes will have the same dimensionality as before.

Wouldn't be surprised if many of these lots became subdivided or you started to see duplexes here by the 2050's.

This area would look so much nicer, and be more affordable, if there were more new england duplexes or triple deckers here.

For example, this is a multi-fam in concord ma (a significantly nicer town than almost any in Virginia) that is far superior to buying in at 900 in Fairfax.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/111-Central-St-Concord-MA-01742/166019446_zpid/

I live across the street in Poplar Tree so I am very familiar with Greenbriar. It is not a low income neighborhood. It is solid middle class. Sure there are people still around who bought cheap 15+ years ago and could never afford to buy there now, but that could be said about any neighborhood including yours. Sales prices lately in Greenbriar are in the 700-900k range, about the same as a nice townhome. You need a reality check if you think spending near a million dollars at current interest rates is low income. People buy there because they want a SFH, access to Rocky Run/Chantilly HS and it is centrally located to shopping and amenities. It's certainly more desirable than Brookfield neighborhood, which I would say is actually low income since the sales prices there are much lower in the 500k-750k range, plus that associated elementary is Title 1.

I'm curious if you would also claim Kings Park West neighborhood, which is recommended frequently on this website, is low income. That one has an HOA but the sales price trajectory and age of the neighborhood are practically identical to Greenbriar.

+1. This person is spot on. Don’t live around there but accurate assessment of the neighborhood

Backing up the greenbrier neighborhood’s value because there’s even worse neighborhoods out there isn’t a convincing argument. It’s like saying Anacostia near st Elizabeth’s is fine because there’s worse further east. Bottom line it’s an undesirable neighborhood. The comparison to a townhouse doesn’t make sense either, it’s trading off land value for the value of the dwelling.

Go away, you clearly don't know what you’re talking about.

Great reasoning! Not my fault you live there.

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Anonymous wrote:this is what happens when you remove single family zoning. it destroys the neighborhood as people rush to create rental income and have unvetted people live next door.

liberalism at its finest. we all have to sufferrr

They are saying that "family members" are going to live there. I don't believe it. It says 3 generations in the article.

I'm a healthcare worker and we brought eight h1bs over last year. It turns out they all live in the same 2 bedroom house hot-bunking with the owner, a lady from their home country. I looked her up and she has been in legal trouble before for running this operation. Maybe she is saying they are all family.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure the suspect in the Gerry Connolly attack lived at 4210 Marble Lane and even attacked one of the neighbors. I remember law enforcement vehicles being in front of it.

https://wjla.com/news/local/gerry-connolly-fairfax-staff-members-assaulted-armed-weapon-suspect-id-baseball-bat-custody-victims-injuries-hospital-city-police-investigation-washington-dc-us-capitol-virginia-voting-rights-democrat-republican-governor-youngkin-politics

OMG WOW. What a strange connection

found not guilty, funnny lol https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-virginia-congressman-gerry-connolly-attack-xuan-kha-tran-pham-insanity-plea-virginia-crime-two-staffers-injured

Good recall.

What a family to live Nextdoor to. Feel sorry for the community.

Is the mentally ill son who attacked Connelly's staffers still institutionalized? And this family wants to build a 3 story monstrosity to house even more family members?

The addition doesn't meet the requirement for the setback. It should be torn down.